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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2020 8:00:58 GMT
Played for a top 10 La Liga team last season. I dont think we have any others who would be in that calibre. He’s now back at Stoke, thanks for agreeing with me. At Getafe he played defensive wide right hardly influenced games and has been let go. Allen, Clucas, Powell, McClean could all have done it as well if not better  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2020 11:17:23 GMT
Its beyond dispute. Hes head and shoulders above anything we have. No he isn't, his shooting is as bad as any midfielder we've had in the last 10 years, he can't pick a pass, although he's good with the ball at his feet he doesn't know when to release it and often tries to take on one man too many his close control is good but his tackling isn't and he can't put a good cross in. Apart from that he's quite mediocre. He isn't and never has been the best midfielder at the club. I have to admit though he was a world class midfielder in his own mind. Are you his agent? Can you tell us if this fucking waster has even left Nigeria? Let's hope he hasn't and he breaks his contractual obligations then we can sack him without having to pay his over inflated wage, maybe even sue him to recoup some of the £ he's already cost us. Gouranga.  It's not breach of contract if you are held back by corona rules. If we sack him anyway we are certain to lose in the courts and will incur fees and fines higher than it would cost simply to pay him off. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2020 11:29:04 GMT
There are no restrictions stopping etebo from coming back are there apart from the need to quarantine on arrival?
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Post by pottersrule on Aug 20, 2020 12:08:04 GMT
It's a pity that your statement isn't even up for debate. I would like to have challenged it. Oh well back to doing some work instead. Disappointed.  Its beyond dispute. Hes head and shoulders above anything we have. Christ you are as deluded as the other daft cunt that lives on here. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 20, 2020 12:22:45 GMT
I won't say he is head and shoulders above the others, but Etebo certainly is a fine player. He is also the one of our midfielders with most pace which makes it difficult to get past him. He is not a great goalscorer or the player who plays fantastic throughballs, but he is probably our best player to break up the oppositions play. Allen is the the one closest to him in this ability, but he hasn't got Etebo's pace to cover the same amount of ground. We also have to accept that players are viewed diffrently by posters here without anybody being a moron or something worse!  |
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Post by nottsover60 on Aug 20, 2020 14:15:21 GMT
There are no restrictions stopping etebo from coming back are there apart from the need to quarantine on arrival? Try doing a search for a flight from Lagos to UK. You get told no flights available. |
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Post by Miles Offside on Aug 20, 2020 14:31:55 GMT
No flights out of Nigeria. Its not his fault. Racist. Go on you fucking brain dead goon explain what in my post is racist. Gouranga. There isn't anything racist in your post. |
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Post by stokeyank on Aug 20, 2020 14:42:06 GMT
No it was Clucas. I still don't care for him even though he has performed better under MON. Above average player, not great, but as good we can ask for right now I suppose. Plus take his goals out of the team, also I'm still sure Mclean did the ear cupping thing as well. McLean may have as well, don't recall to be honest. As for taking the goals out, sure but someone else would have played the same position and who says they could/would not have scored the same or more. I know that is a silly argument but was just pointing out something about how he plays bugs me. Not even really sure what and I never would claim to know much about properly judging a players ability, so could be I am full of it!! |
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Post by jezzascfc on Aug 20, 2020 14:43:36 GMT
If Sorensen and TO-B go out on loan (which I think they should), there could be a spot in the squad for him, but he would have to (1) knuckle down and work 'ard and (2) be prepared to wait for his chance to stake a first team place behind the others.
On his wages, and with his expression of the wish to leave from January still fresh in MON's ears, I think we will look to send him out on loan again.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 20, 2020 23:14:23 GMT
If Sorensen and TO-B go out on loan (which I think they should), there could be a spot in the squad for him, but he would have to (1) knuckle down and work 'ard and (2) be prepared to wait for his chance to stake a first team place behind the others. On his wages, and with his expression of the wish to leave from January still fresh in MON's ears, I think we will look to send him out on loan again. Re Oakley-Boothe, aren’t we his loan in a way? |
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Post by realstokebloke on Aug 20, 2020 23:25:38 GMT
If Sorensen and TO-B go out on loan (which I think they should), there could be a spot in the squad for him, but he would have to (1) knuckle down and work 'ard and (2) be prepared to wait for his chance to stake a first team place behind the others. On his wages, and with his expression of the wish to leave from January still fresh in MON's ears, I think we will look to send him out on loan again. Re Oakley-Boothe, aren’t we his loan in a way? Don't see what way? We bought him. Or is he going back to Spuds? |
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Post by hyaduck on Aug 20, 2020 23:32:41 GMT
I really can't see the love in with this guy, he's ok but nothing outstanding and doesn't want to be at the club. I would love to see him and his mate gone out of the club for ever and off the wage bill.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 21, 2020 5:33:44 GMT
Re Oakley-Boothe, aren’t we his loan in a way? Don't see what way? We bought him. Or is he going back to Spuds? It was a move made for game time and development reasons and he would be looking at it as such ie expecting playing time here? It might not be but it was a move out of the blue and seemed to be one done for those reasons? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2020 5:56:09 GMT
Don't see what way? We bought him. Or is he going back to Spuds? It was a move made for game time and development reasons and he would be looking at it as such ie expecting playing time here? It might not be but it was a move out of the blue and seemed to be one done for those reasons? I agree. It's a chance for TOB to further his career, which he might not do under Mourinho. But is he a player for Stoke's future. Probably not. He'll move on when he's attracted attention. Although he needs to learn that it isn't just going to happen just like that. He needs to put in an affort on the training ground and when he does get match time, whether it's a cameo or a full game. |
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Post by jezzascfc on Aug 21, 2020 13:53:37 GMT
Don't see what way? We bought him. Or is he going back to Spuds? It was a move made for game time and development reasons and he would be looking at it as such ie expecting playing time here? It might not be but it was a move out of the blue and seemed to be one done for those reasons? TO-B doesn't look remotely ready for big boys football yet, though. There is some talent there, so something to work with, but I'd send him to the lower leagues to toughen up for a season. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2020 14:22:29 GMT
It was a move made for game time and development reasons and he would be looking at it as such ie expecting playing time here? It might not be but it was a move out of the blue and seemed to be one done for those reasons? TO-B doesn't look remotely ready for big boys football yet, though. There is some talent there, so something to work with, but I'd send him to the lower leagues to toughen up for a season. Then what? If he doesn't get game time at his L2 club, because he's not tough enough, will we just allow him to drift away? He needs to play where he can prosper. |
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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 21, 2020 14:25:58 GMT
TO-B doesn't look remotely ready for big boys football yet, though. There is some talent there, so something to work with, but I'd send him to the lower leagues to toughen up for a season. Then what? If he doesn't get game time at his L2 club, because he's not tough enough, will we just allow him to drift away? He needs to play where he can prosper. But what is the answer then? He looks nowhere near a starter in our team so what should he do ? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2020 15:07:34 GMT
Then what? If he doesn't get game time at his L2 club, because he's not tough enough, will we just allow him to drift away? He needs to play where he can prosper. But what is the answer then? He looks nowhere near a starter in our team so what should he do ? We have to believe the manager or the YT manager brought him here for a reason, so that he could bring something to the team this season. We also have to believe he was watched often enough for the coaches to know how to use him best. The relegation dogfights we were in not so long ago were no time to bring in a skinny, technically accomplished player. Now is the time. Have him ready on the bench a fair number of games (he is after all under 21 of which we must have one), increase the amount of time on/cameos as the season goes on, then play him in the cups. If he does reasonably well, but even so allow him some slack, then increase the time. If he does very well, play him whenever there's a suspension or injury from the must play players, if he does really well, give him a new contract. If he does consistently poorly, then by all means, loan him to a non-league team and release him at the end of the season, It won't be the worst or biggest money that we have wasted then. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 21, 2020 15:38:03 GMT
There might be something wrong with my eyes, but TOB looked very small and lightweight in the Nottingham game, but when I saw them back at training after a short holiday he certainly looked much bigger and stronger. I've only seen pictures and short glimpses of him here and on the official site, but has he really changed physically in such a short time!?  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2020 15:54:21 GMT
But what is the answer then? He looks nowhere near a starter in our team so what should he do ? We have to believe the manager or the YT manager brought him here for a reason, so that he could bring something to the team this season. We also have to believe he was watched often enough for the coaches to know how to use him best. The relegation dogfights we were in not so long ago were no time to bring in a skinny, technically accomplished player. Now is the time. Have him ready on the bench a fair number of games (he is after all under 21 of which we must have one), increase the amount of time on/cameos as the season goes on, then play him in the cups. If he does reasonably well, but even so allow him some slack, then increase the time. If he does very well, play him whenever there's a suspension or injury from the must play players, if he does really well, give him a new contract. If he does consistently poorly, then by all means, loan him to a non-league team and release him at the end of the season, It won't be the worst or biggest money that we have wasted then. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2020 15:55:43 GMT
There might be something wrong with my eyes, but TOB looked very small and lightweight in the Nottingham game, but when I saw them back at training after a short holiday he certainly looked much bigger and stronger. I've only seen pictures and short glimpses of him here and on the official site, but has he really changed physically in such a short time!? I haven't seen him in training but in the Linfield game he looked his usual skin and bones where you're barely aware he's there, which by the way is not a bad trait for a potential supersub... |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 21, 2020 17:47:28 GMT
It was a move made for game time and development reasons and he would be looking at it as such ie expecting playing time here? It might not be but it was a move out of the blue and seemed to be one done for those reasons? TO-B doesn't look remotely ready for big boys football yet, though. There is some talent there, so something to work with, but I'd send him to the lower leagues to toughen up for a season. I think that’s harsh tbf after 2 games. And in 10 minutes of one he looked a world beater 😂 I just can’t see him being happy with that. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2020 18:45:35 GMT
TO-B doesn't look remotely ready for big boys football yet, though. There is some talent there, so something to work with, but I'd send him to the lower leagues to toughen up for a season. I think that’s harsh tbf after 2 games. And in 10 minutes of one he looked a world beater 😂 I just can’t see him being happy with that. I've been a bit shocked at how bad he is though, he can't even trap a ball,but more worrying is that he looks scared |
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Post by nottsover60 on Aug 21, 2020 19:06:40 GMT
TO-B doesn't look remotely ready for big boys football yet, though. There is some talent there, so something to work with, but I'd send him to the lower leagues to toughen up for a season. I think that’s harsh tbf after 2 games. And in 10 minutes of one he looked a world beater 😂 I just can’t see him being happy with that. I must be the only one who thought he looked a decent prospect at Forest. He was quick and had quick feet. His challenges were a bit light weight but he often won the ball because his speed got him to it first. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 21, 2020 19:21:37 GMT
I think that’s harsh tbf after 2 games. And in 10 minutes of one he looked a world beater 😂 I just can’t see him being happy with that. I must be the only one who thought he looked a decent prospect at Forest. He was quick and had quick feet. His challenges were a bit light weight but he often won the ball because his speed got him to it first. I’ve got to be honest I didn’t realise he played against Forest 😂 |
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Post by foxysgloves on Aug 21, 2020 19:42:13 GMT
If he did come back he’s coming back to a very different squad with a very different mentality and a very different manager.
My prediction if he does return is he’d tear it up and we’d be talking about him as a potential player of the season come season end.
I don’t think he’ll come back though.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 21, 2020 21:27:24 GMT
There might be something wrong with my eyes, but TOB looked very small and lightweight in the Nottingham game, but when I saw them back at training after a short holiday he certainly looked much bigger and stronger. I've only seen pictures and short glimpses of him here and on the official site, but has he really changed physically in such a short time!? I was within a few metres of him a week ago and he looks very slight to me. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 22, 2020 5:34:28 GMT
There might be something wrong with my eyes, but TOB looked very small and lightweight in the Nottingham game, but when I saw them back at training after a short holiday he certainly looked much bigger and stronger. I've only seen pictures and short glimpses of him here and on the official site, but has he really changed physically in such a short time!? I was within a few metres of him a week ago and he looks very slight to me. There were some pictures released from the first training sessions and the player said to be TOB looked to have been beefed up this summer, but I'm not sure it was him. Did we have some trialists? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 6:35:55 GMT
I must be the only one who thought he looked a decent prospect at Forest. He was quick and had quick feet. His challenges were a bit light weight but he often won the ball because his speed got him to it first. I’ve got to be honest I didn’t realise he played against Forest 😂 He was probably overshadowed by the emergence of Tymon as a world class winger... |
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Post by bertus on Aug 22, 2020 9:21:57 GMT
According to his Instagram account this morning peters boarded a plane....... heading here?
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