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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2020 16:35:26 GMT
If Etebo returned he would be the best player at the club by a country mile. Thats not even up for debate. If that’s true, we’re in real trouble. We have been for a few years.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2020 16:36:08 GMT
If Etebo returned he would be the best player at the club by a country mile. Thats not even up for debate. It's a pity that your statement isn't even up for debate. I would like to have challenged it. Oh well back to doing some work instead. Disappointed. Its beyond dispute. Hes head and shoulders above anything we have.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Aug 19, 2020 16:45:03 GMT
He doesn't want to be here so get him gone
One of the few who we may be able to get a fee for or a player exchange
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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 19, 2020 16:45:55 GMT
It's a pity that your statement isn't even up for debate. I would like to have challenged it. Oh well back to doing some work instead. Disappointed. Its beyond dispute. Hes head and shoulders above anything we have. If he was that good, there would be a queue of clubs outside Scholes’ office, neither wages or fees would cause a PL team to blink. To my knowledge, Clucas is the only member of our squad to have attracted PL interest in last couple of years when he nearly went to Burnley before us. Presumably Etebo’s agent has alerted all clubs but no-one seems to share your opinion of him. Maybe because the stats don’t support it
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Aug 19, 2020 16:48:15 GMT
It's a pity that your statement isn't even up for debate. I would like to have challenged it. Oh well back to doing some work instead. Disappointed. Its beyond dispute. Hes head and shoulders above anything we have. No he isn't, his shooting is as bad as any midfielder we've had in the last 10 years, he can't pick a pass, although he's good with the ball at his feet he doesn't know when to release it and often tries to take on one man too many his close control is good but his tackling isn't and he can't put a good cross in. Apart from that he's quite mediocre. He isn't and never has been the best midfielder at the club. I have to admit though he was a world class midfielder in his own mind. Are you his agent? Can you tell us if this fucking waster has even left Nigeria? Let's hope he hasn't and he breaks his contractual obligations then we can sack him without having to pay his over inflated wage, maybe even sue him to recoup some of the £ he's already cost us. Gouranga.
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Post by superjonscape on Aug 19, 2020 17:02:21 GMT
It's shameful when you can't sell a player that just a couple of years ago was being talked of highly for his performances at a major tournament
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Post by karl on Aug 19, 2020 17:07:04 GMT
The only thing we can do with Peter is loan him out for the remainder of his contract.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2020 17:55:13 GMT
Its beyond dispute. Hes head and shoulders above anything we have. No he isn't, his shooting is as bad as any midfielder we've had in the last 10 years, he can't pick a pass, although he's good with the ball at his feet he doesn't know when to release it and often tries to take on one man too many his close control is good but his tackling isn't and he can't put a good cross in. Apart from that he's quite mediocre. He isn't and never has been the best midfielder at the club. I have to admit though he was a world class midfielder in his own mind. Are you his agent? Can you tell us if this fucking waster has even left Nigeria? Let's hope he hasn't and he breaks his contractual obligations then we can sack him without having to pay his over inflated wage, maybe even sue him to recoup some of the £ he's already cost us. Gouranga. No flights out of Nigeria. Its not his fault. Racist.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2020 17:56:56 GMT
Its beyond dispute. Hes head and shoulders above anything we have. If he was that good, there would be a queue of clubs outside Scholes’ office, neither wages or fees would cause a PL team to blink. To my knowledge, Clucas is the only member of our squad to have attracted PL interest in last couple of years when he nearly went to Burnley before us. Presumably Etebo’s agent has alerted all clubs but no-one seems to share your opinion of him. Maybe because the stats don’t support it Played for a top 10 La Liga team last season. I dont think we have any others who would be in that calibre.
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Post by nottsover60 on Aug 19, 2020 18:12:03 GMT
Drives us forward. Whenever he got the ball he looked to carry it fwds, something no one else in the squad does. Alright he may not see passes but I would rather us lose possession in the opposition half than our own. He can also cover ground quickly and gets back to challenge for the ball when he sees danger or that a team mate is out of position. We’re a similar age but your eyesight must be better than mine. An attacking midfielder with what, 1 goal and 3 assists? Of course he carries the ball forward before losing it to the 3rd person he’s trying to beat, or passing it to no one in a striped shirt. He’s okay, but he’s no better than 3 who would play before him. So tell me which other midfield player we have who runs at people with the ball. As I said I'd rather a pass go astray in their half rather than ours. And I have never considered him to be an attacking midfielder like Powell or Ince.
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Post by neddy on Aug 19, 2020 18:14:42 GMT
We need to know if flights were coming from Nigeria whether he would be with the bomb squad or the main squad?
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Post by thehoof on Aug 19, 2020 19:12:32 GMT
We’re a similar age but your eyesight must be better than mine. An attacking midfielder with what, 1 goal and 3 assists? Of course he carries the ball forward before losing it to the 3rd person he’s trying to beat, or passing it to no one in a striped shirt. He’s okay, but he’s no better than 3 who would play before him. So tell me which other midfield player we have who runs at people with the ball. As I said I'd rather a pass go astray in their half rather than ours. And I have never considered him to be an attacking midfielder like Powell or Ince. What comes of him running with the ball? 1 goal , 3 assists. The much maligned player of the year runs with the ball and had 7 goals and 7 assists; I don’t expect every pass to find a man, but I would like to see the odd penetrating pass; you will clearly remind me of all the havoc that Etebo’s dribbling has caused and the number of times he’s threaded the eye of the needle.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Aug 19, 2020 19:40:44 GMT
No he isn't, his shooting is as bad as any midfielder we've had in the last 10 years, he can't pick a pass, although he's good with the ball at his feet he doesn't know when to release it and often tries to take on one man too many his close control is good but his tackling isn't and he can't put a good cross in. Apart from that he's quite mediocre. He isn't and never has been the best midfielder at the club. I have to admit though he was a world class midfielder in his own mind. Are you his agent? Can you tell us if this fucking waster has even left Nigeria? Let's hope he hasn't and he breaks his contractual obligations then we can sack him without having to pay his over inflated wage, maybe even sue him to recoup some of the £ he's already cost us. Gouranga. No flights out of Nigeria. Its not his fault. Racist. Go on you fucking brain dead goon explain what in my post is racist. Gouranga.
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Post by Squeekster on Aug 19, 2020 20:03:36 GMT
If Etebo played now, he would have to take Clucas' place and there is probably not a Stokie alive (bar the above poster) who would want that to happen. You might be overestimating Clucas' popularity among Stoke supporters, certainly among those he shushed and later earcupped... Wasn't that Mclean?
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Post by stokeyank on Aug 19, 2020 20:15:26 GMT
You might be overestimating Clucas' popularity among Stoke supporters, certainly among those he shushed and later earcupped... Wasn't that Mclean? No it was Clucas. I still don't care for him even though he has performed better under MON. Above average player, not great, but as good we can ask for right now I suppose.
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Post by thehoof on Aug 19, 2020 20:32:52 GMT
If he was that good, there would be a queue of clubs outside Scholes’ office, neither wages or fees would cause a PL team to blink. To my knowledge, Clucas is the only member of our squad to have attracted PL interest in last couple of years when he nearly went to Burnley before us. Presumably Etebo’s agent has alerted all clubs but no-one seems to share your opinion of him. Maybe because the stats don’t support it Played for a top 10 La Liga team last season. I dont think we have any others who would be in that calibre. Who don’t want to sign him. Says it all.
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Post by shakermaker on Aug 19, 2020 20:56:31 GMT
It's shameful when you can't sell a player that just a couple of years ago was being talked of highly for his performances at a major tournament To be honest, I think he's living off that one performance against the Argies. Don't remember Pete having any impact on Getafe's game at the Nou Camp back in February, and Getafe played quite well that day.
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Post by mrcoke on Aug 19, 2020 21:15:09 GMT
He doesn't want to be here so get him gone One of the few who we may be able to get a fee for or a player exchange The operative word being "may", as no one appears to want him apart from a section of Stoke fans. Are they inspired or misguided?
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Post by Squeekster on Aug 19, 2020 21:19:52 GMT
No it was Clucas. I still don't care for him even though he has performed better under MON. Above average player, not great, but as good we can ask for right now I suppose. Plus take his goals out of the team, also I'm still sure Mclean did the ear cupping thing as well.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2020 21:25:15 GMT
Clucas shusssshed, and Allen cupped his ear.
Great times!
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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 19, 2020 21:41:31 GMT
If he was that good, there would be a queue of clubs outside Scholes’ office, neither wages or fees would cause a PL team to blink. To my knowledge, Clucas is the only member of our squad to have attracted PL interest in last couple of years when he nearly went to Burnley before us. Presumably Etebo’s agent has alerted all clubs but no-one seems to share your opinion of him. Maybe because the stats don’t support it Played for a top 10 La Liga team last season. I dont think we have any others who would be in that calibre. He’s now back at Stoke, thanks for agreeing with me. At Getafe he played defensive wide right hardly influenced games and has been let go. Allen, Clucas, Powell, McClean could all have done it as well if not better
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Post by superjonscape on Aug 19, 2020 21:42:19 GMT
Clucas shusssshed, and Allen cupped his ear. Great times! Clucas can shush as much as he wants for me if he's scoring 11 goals a season from CM, he isnt the problem
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Post by superjonscape on Aug 19, 2020 21:43:07 GMT
It's shameful when you can't sell a player that just a couple of years ago was being talked of highly for his performances at a major tournament To be honest, I think he's living off that one performance against the Argies. Don't remember Pete having any impact on Getafe's game at the Nou Camp back in February, and Getafe played quite well that day. Maybe, still think he is decent though
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 19, 2020 22:33:10 GMT
This fucker, if he was any good and had anything about him, would give us a season and help us to get promoted. The only way he will ever be a PL player is with us.
He ain't worth a wank.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2020 2:56:36 GMT
You might be overestimating Clucas' popularity among Stoke supporters, certainly among those he shushed and later earcupped... Wasn't that Mclean? both
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Post by shrewspotter on Aug 20, 2020 3:34:00 GMT
He’s over rated and doesn’t want to be here. For me I’d get rid, however I don’t see a queue forming which is quite telling
Never can understand some players, he comes to us, doesn’t set the world alight, is instrumental in our shocking start to the season then somehow thinks he’s better than the rest. Well sunshine I’ve news for you.
You think some of these players might knuckle down and try to help us win promotion
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2020 4:01:25 GMT
He’s over rated and doesn’t want to be here. For me I’d get rid, however I don’t see a queue forming which is quite telling Never can understand some players, he comes to us, doesn’t set the world alight, is instrumental in our shocking start to the season then somehow thinks he’s better than the rest. Well sunshine I’ve news for you. You think some of these players might knuckle down and try to help us win promotion He hasn't said what you claim. He just wants to stay in his national team, and he needs to play premier to do so. Is that so hard to understand?
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Post by shrewspotter on Aug 20, 2020 4:09:51 GMT
He’s over rated and doesn’t want to be here. For me I’d get rid, however I don’t see a queue forming which is quite telling Never can understand some players, he comes to us, doesn’t set the world alight, is instrumental in our shocking start to the season then somehow thinks he’s better than the rest. Well sunshine I’ve news for you. You think some of these players might knuckle down and try to help us win promotion He hasn't said what you claim. He just wants to stay in his national team, and he needs to play premier to do so. Is that so hard to understand? im sure O’Neil claimed his heart wasn’t in it didn’t he? I just think over the last 4 or so seasons we’ve had too many players like Etebo. The likes of Jesé, Choupo-Moting, Wimmer, Berahino. They all lack the fight and hunger of more limited players such as Walters, Bardslay and Whelan. MoN sees it and most Stokies see it That’s what I see and understand
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2020 6:46:43 GMT
He hasn't said what you claim. He just wants to stay in his national team, and he needs to play premier to do so. Is that so hard to understand? im sure O’Neil claimed his heart wasn’t in it didn’t he? I just think over the last 4 or so seasons we’ve had too many players like Etebo. The likes of Jesé, Choupo-Moting, Wimmer, Berahino. They all lack the fight and hunger of more limited players such as Walters, Bardslay and Whelan. MoN sees it and most Stokies see it That’s what I see and understand I think you're forgetting the actual performances of Etebo in your supercial grouping him in with the likes of those you mention. For sure he is no M'bappe or Thomas Muller but he does actually put in a shift when he's selected. I don't especially want him to stay with us. But if we are unable to sell him or even loan him out, then we might as well make use of him, rather than paying him to do nothing. The blessed trinity that you mention have never been replaced. I don't think any of Rowett's, Jones' or O'Neill's signings come anywhere near those in terms of not just fight but quality (although I don't think Bardsley had much quality, he was just a mean beast for opponents). For instance McClean is a great fighter but has limited quality as footballer. Powell has some quality and actually some fight too, but he's no Hudson. Ince has no fight in him and that blocks the actually fine quality that he had years ago. Chester can fight, but he seems unable to play two good games in a row. TOB and Thompson may come into their own in time, but at the moment their ability to contribute is limited.
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Post by Fred Ferret on Aug 20, 2020 7:30:35 GMT
No he isn't, his shooting is as bad as any midfielder we've had in the last 10 years, he can't pick a pass, although he's good with the ball at his feet he doesn't know when to release it and often tries to take on one man too many his close control is good but his tackling isn't and he can't put a good cross in. Apart from that he's quite mediocre. He isn't and never has been the best midfielder at the club. I have to admit though he was a world class midfielder in his own mind. Are you his agent? Can you tell us if this fucking waster has even left Nigeria? Let's hope he hasn't and he breaks his contractual obligations then we can sack him without having to pay his over inflated wage, maybe even sue him to recoup some of the £ he's already cost us. Gouranga. No flights out of Nigeria. Its not his fault. Racist. Turnip alert
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