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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 18, 2019 10:59:18 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 18, 2019 11:03:11 GMT
Certainly reads like we are trying to pretty forcefully usher him towards the exit door.
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Post by chigstoke on Dec 18, 2019 11:05:22 GMT
An absolute joke. We should be fighting to keep the lad not push him out of the door.
Unless we get an exceptionally good offer, don't bother.
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Post by potterpaul on Dec 18, 2019 11:08:09 GMT
If there was a thread where you could 'Rate your botheredness' I'd be about 3 right now
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 11:08:30 GMT
Perhaps O'Neill has come in,looked at the results with Etebo and Ndiaye in the team and thought neither can be that good .
Who knows
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 18, 2019 11:08:46 GMT
I wish we'd be this forceful with Allen.
Bloody club.
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Post by bikerboy on Dec 18, 2019 11:09:26 GMT
Seems really strange trying to offload our best players especially the precarious position we are in with survival in this league by no means guaranteed.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 11:32:12 GMT
When your new manager throws you under the bus in public it kind of tells you to leave and leave pretty quickly.
"He's training ok"
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Dec 18, 2019 11:37:03 GMT
Fuck him off he's too young!  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 11:41:16 GMT
I must admit I've never been all that impressed in anything he's done in a Stoke shirt.
Not a great passer or tackler and pretty crap at shooting.
One thing he can do well on occasions is run and dribble, but even this normally then ends up with him being tackled or when it comes to the final pass he tends to not find his man.
Totally underwhelming pretty much like all our midfield options, come to think of it much like our whole squad.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 11:56:17 GMT
I must admit I've never been all that impressed in anything he's done in a Stoke shirt. Not a great passer or tackler and pretty crap at shooting. One thing he can do well on occasions is run and dribble, but even this normally then ends up with him being tackled or when it comes to the final pass he tends to not find his man. Totally underwhelming pretty much like all our midfield options, come to think of it much like our whole squad. I rate the lad, but I thought he'd kick on and add some goals/assists to his game, and I thought he'd drive us forward more and really push us up the pitch. I have no doubt at the right club he'll be a success, he's not one I would let go on the cheap..... |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Dec 18, 2019 12:02:35 GMT
Given he's barely played, I can't see him attracting any sort of decent fee. £8m plus add-ons for international caps and appearances and 50% of any profit would seem reasonable and about the best to hope for. Was it Steve Bruce who said Etebo was one of the best opposition players he'd seen earlier this season?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 12:06:23 GMT
I must admit I've never been all that impressed in anything he's done in a Stoke shirt. Not a great passer or tackler and pretty crap at shooting. One thing he can do well on occasions is run and dribble, but even this normally then ends up with him being tackled or when it comes to the final pass he tends to not find his man. Totally underwhelming pretty much like all our midfield options, come to think of it much like our whole squad. I rate the lad, but I thought he'd kick on and add some goals/assists to his game, and I thought he'd drive us forward more and really push us up the pitch. I have no doubt at the right club he'll be a success, he's not one I would let go on the cheap..... I agree to an extent but if anything in the few opportunities he's had this season he's actually gone backwards and a move will probably benefit both parties. Unfortunately with Stoke being Stoke we'll no doubt replace him with someone worse, it's what we do. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 12:11:59 GMT
Given he's barely played, I can't see him attracting any sort of decent fee. £8m plus add-ons for international caps and appearances and 50% of any profit would seem reasonable and about the best to hope for. Was it Steve Bruce who said Etebo was one of the best opposition players he'd seen earlier this season? £8M plus add ons for a bloke who can't pass, shoot or tackle and is the current managers 6th choice midfielder after Allen, Clucas, Cousins, Woods, Badou. Hope your right but more likely a loan to a bag of shit Turkish team then back to Stoke for pre season training in July 2020. Another one to file under Imbula, Badou and Fat Kev. |
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Post by Gods on Dec 18, 2019 12:15:35 GMT
£2m tops I'd say or more likely another loan since no one will come near matching his wages.
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Post by wuzza on Dec 18, 2019 12:59:29 GMT
Can’t help feeling in our general desperation we are over rating the value and importance of some players.
It’s a sign of the general chaos. We have to give ONeill time to get a grip of it all and sort out a new road forward.
Whatever will be will be this season - it’s already become more of a long term issue.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Dec 18, 2019 13:24:32 GMT
At least try and get our bloody money back! Bruce saw him once when he was at Sheff Wednesday. We may have bought Imbula on the strength of one friendly against us, but not everyone's that stupid.
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Post by crowey on Dec 18, 2019 13:33:07 GMT
.... nothing to do with transfer fees, but all to do with long contracts and wagers (Mr Weasel face)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 13:38:24 GMT
I must admit I've never been all that impressed in anything he's done in a Stoke shirt. Not a great passer or tackler and pretty crap at shooting. One thing he can do well on occasions is run and dribble, but even this normally then ends up with him being tackled or when it comes to the final pass he tends to not find his man. Totally underwhelming pretty much like all our midfield options, come to think of it much like our whole squad. There's some relevance to what you're saying, but I'd modify it to 'only slightly better than other midfielders/squad.' I too thought he would turn out for the best, to be great for us, but now that he is virtually past tense, he only turned out to be sometimes good, sometimes not even that. Given how "underwhelming" all our other midfielders are, he was not the one to lift us, and he will probably not be missed, or only we might regret letting him go, when O'Neill brings in his first average players as replacements. Because who in their right minds would want to join us, unless they are motivated by the fine pay. |
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Post by adamsson on Dec 18, 2019 13:39:50 GMT
Fuck him off he's too young! and too good |
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Post by PotterLog on Dec 18, 2019 13:50:47 GMT
Perhaps O'Neill has come in,looked at the results with Etebo and Ndiaye in the team and thought neither can be that good . Who knows Definitely no holes in this theory |
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Post by pushon on Dec 18, 2019 13:56:54 GMT
I must admit I've never been all that impressed in anything he's done in a Stoke shirt. Not a great passer or tackler and pretty crap at shooting. One thing he can do well on occasions is run and dribble, but even this normally then ends up with him being tackled or when it comes to the final pass he tends to not find his man. Totally underwhelming pretty much like all our midfield options, come to think of it much like our whole squad. I'm inclined to agree with this, although he runs well with the ball, there is no end product quite often. Too often robbed of posession in his own half too. Despite that he often makes his presence felt.... if only he could be a bit more constructive. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 18, 2019 14:07:35 GMT
The criticisms are valid but by Christ could we do someone who could drive forward from box to box with a bit of steel about them, even if there are questions over end product.
Are the owners preparing for League One?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 14:24:42 GMT
The criticisms are valid but by Christ could we do someone who could drive forward from box to box with a bit of steel about them, even if there are questions over end product. Are the owners preparing for League One? Step forward Gianelli Imbulla!!!!! The Saviour!!!! No one drives from box to box better, unfortunately like most of the others, he don't really give a fook as long as that salary keeps hitting his bank account every month. |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Dec 18, 2019 14:35:22 GMT
Etebo had a good World Cup (mostly) and the majority opinion (of non-Stoke fans) was signing him was a big coup. Not that it's difficult, but he's been one of our better players when I've seen him and at least gives us a semblance of excitement at times. He's not suddenly an awful player. If he is, that's probably down to the general malaise about the place.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 14:43:52 GMT
Etebo had a good World Cup (mostly) and the majority opinion (of non-Stoke fans) was signing him was a big coup. Not that it's difficult, but he's been one of our better players when I've seen him and at least gives us a semblance of excitement at times. He's not suddenly an awful player. If he is, that's probably down to the general malaise about the place. Certainly not an awful player although at times he does struggle to do the basics. I just think peoples views get clouded by the occasional exciting run, but they always ended up with him eventually being tackled or twatting his final pass out for a goal kick. Totally agree with you though that its more than likely the general malaise around the place that's sucked the life out of him and dragged him down to our unique brand of shitness all over the park. |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 18, 2019 15:02:38 GMT
We have gone back to the 80's where we sell any talent we find. Chamberlain, Heath, Bracewell, Dixon, Bould, etc sold when I was growing up, and despite our ludicrous wealth, we are doing it again, because of the utter fuck up we have made of running a club.
How is Scholes still here?
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 18, 2019 15:04:48 GMT
Perhaps O'Neill has come in,looked at the results with Etebo and Ndiaye in the team and thought neither can be that good . Who knows Definitely no holes in this theory He's going to have to sell the lot, then. |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 18, 2019 15:10:52 GMT
Given he's barely played, I can't see him attracting any sort of decent fee. £8m plus add-ons for international caps and appearances and 50% of any profit would seem reasonable and about the best to hope for. Was it Steve Bruce who said Etebo was one of the best opposition players he'd seen earlier this season? £8M plus add ons for a bloke who can't pass, shoot or tackle and is the current managers 6th choice midfielder after Allen, Clucas, Cousins, Woods, Badou. Hope your right but more likely a loan to a bag of shit Turkish team then back to Stoke for pre season training in July 2020. Another one to file under Imbula, Badou and Fat Kev. If O'Neil cannot see Etebo is better than Woods, I fear for our future. Sure, he's raw, but there's definitely talent and potential there. He shone in the World Cup and got rave reviews; "Stoke have picked up a bargain" springs to mind. He's another one our clueless club and management has ruined. |
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Post by stokemark on Dec 18, 2019 15:11:22 GMT
We have gone back to the 80's where we sell any talent we find. Chamberlain, Heath, Bracewell, Dixon, Bould, etc sold when I was growing up, and despite our ludicrous wealth, we are doing it again, because of the utter fuck up we have made of running a club. How is Scholes still here? I was saying this to someone the other day. One of the reasons we achieved promotion and stayed in the Premier League was because we stopped selling our best players. The pursuit of self-sufficiency led to a change in policy with Arnie going and since then the whole things collapsed like a house of cards The treatment of Etebo has been shocking and MON is complicit in it. He is just another puppet of the regime. |
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