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Post by desman2 on Sept 3, 2019 20:32:01 GMT
I've noticed now that for the past two years Labour have been demanding a general election and now they are to be granted their wish they don't want one.
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 3, 2019 20:36:30 GMT
Even if that guarantee was forthcoming, you've got to think that may be Cummings has misjudged his strategy, if Corbyn says no to an election now under any circumstances. Surely that would give Jez the upper hand, as Johnson would be left in no man's land, wouldn't it? Parliament will have instructed him to ask for an extension and he can't boot out the Tory rebels who have voted against the government because he won't have an election to replace them with. Maybe I'm missing something. The guarantee has just come from No. 10 Paul, so I think you're right, they're pretty desperate for Corbyn to ratify an election should it come to it. Still not sure how an opposition refusing an election would look but it is an area of power the fixed term act has given to opposition leaders and not even Cummings can intervene in that! The FTPA act wasn't conceived with the current scenario playing out. It is extraordinary that an opposition leader wouldn’t pounce on the opportunity where the governing party does not command a majority in the house. But, then again, we are living in extraordinary times. I don’t think Parliament has seen anything like it since The People’s Budget back in 1909. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 3, 2019 20:39:22 GMT
The guarantee has just come from No. 10 Paul, so I think you're right, they're pretty desperate for Corbyn to ratify an election should it come to it. Still not sure how an opposition refusing an election would look but it is an area of power the fixed term act has given to opposition leaders and not even Cummings can intervene in that! The FTPA act wasn't conceived with the current scenario playing out. It is extraordinary that an opposition leader wouldn’t pounce on the opportunity where the governing party does not command a majority in the house. But, then again, we are living in extraordinary times. I don’t think Parliament has seen anything like it since The People’s Budget back in 1909. Everything we knew no longer applies anymore. The rules are being re-written in front of us from all sides. |
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Post by followyoudown on Sept 3, 2019 21:03:36 GMT
It's a coup, it's a coup, it's a coup these hard right conservatives are stealing our democracy, its an outrage. BORIS says ok lets have an election and they are going to say not yet fucking hell....
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 3, 2019 21:08:10 GMT
It's a coup, it's a coup, it's a coup these hard right conservatives are stealing our democracy, its an outrage. BORIS says ok lets have an election and they are going to say not yet fucking hell.... Imagine them as boxers. "Bring it on, bring it on". Opponent steps into the ring ; "Not the face, not the face"! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 21:14:49 GMT
😆👍 One or two of my friends probably wouldnt disagree with you there. Think of it as a secret code |
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Post by salopstick on Sept 3, 2019 21:17:37 GMT
Call the fucker and sort it out once and for all.
MPs are cunts
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Post by chad on Sept 3, 2019 21:19:01 GMT
It's a coup, it's a coup, it's a coup these hard right conservatives are stealing our democracy, its an outrage. BORIS says ok lets have an election and they are going to say not yet fucking hell.... Corbyn shitting himself He knows he’ll get slaughtered at a GE |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Sept 3, 2019 21:20:59 GMT
It's a coup, it's a coup, it's a coup these hard right conservatives are stealing our democracy, its an outrage. BORIS says ok lets have an election and they are going to say not yet fucking hell.... Corbyn shitting himself He knows he’ll get slaughtered at a GE I think his previous call for a GE and his support for no deal( no BREXIT) will backfire catastrophically for Corbyn |
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Post by salopstick on Sept 3, 2019 21:22:56 GMT
The FTPA act wasn't conceived with the current scenario playing out. It is extraordinary that an opposition leader wouldn’t pounce on the opportunity where the governing party does not command a majority in the house. But, then again, we are living in extraordinary times. I don’t think Parliament has seen anything like it since The People’s Budget back in 1909. Everything we knew no longer applies anymore. The rules are being re-written in front of us from all sides. If Corbyn refuse an election he looks weaker than ever. |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 3, 2019 21:25:57 GMT
Call the fucker and sort it out once and for all. MPs are cunts "I came here for a shoot-out ; like a Western.". |
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Post by Cast no shadow on Sept 3, 2019 21:39:27 GMT
Viva la boris
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Sept 3, 2019 21:49:55 GMT
Bring on the election!!!!
Whilst the wolves have been baying... the knives have been sharpening...
I have a feeling that labour vote will be destroyed... rumblings are that the Brexit Party will not target Conservative majorities, especially those areas that voted leave... and the Brexit question will swell their support against labour in the leave constituents.
This is falling into Boris‘ hands nicely.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 3, 2019 21:53:37 GMT
Bring on the election!!!! Whilst the wolves have been baying... the knives have been sharpening... I have a feeling that labour vote will be destroyed... rumblings are that the Brexit Party will not target Conservative majorities, especially those areas that voted leave... and the Brexit question will swell their support against labour in the leave constituents. This is falling into Boris‘ hands nicely. If all goes to plan. It changes daily, lately. |
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Post by essexstokey on Sept 3, 2019 21:54:49 GMT
I've noticed now that for the past two years Labour have been demanding a general election and now they are to be granted their wish they don't want one. take it you didn't watch the news did you they want one as soon as the legislation is passed to stop no deal as they cant trust Boris as he is a proven liar and could change the date of the election at will forcing a no deal |
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Post by GrahamHyde on Sept 3, 2019 21:56:00 GMT
I always thought most people in Stoke were traditionally Labour and left-wing?
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 3, 2019 22:01:09 GMT
I always thought most people in Stoke were traditionally Labour and left-wing? They used to be, yes. |
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Post by serpico on Sept 3, 2019 22:02:34 GMT
I always thought most people in Stoke were traditionally Labour and left-wing? Labour is now the party of middle class, quinoa munching, Glastonbury goers. |
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Post by chad on Sept 3, 2019 22:02:54 GMT
I always thought most people in Stoke were traditionally Labour and left-wing? I suppose I’m traditionally Labour having been born and bred in Bentilee although the years of Foot/Kinnock changed my vote I’d still consider voting Labour but never never never whilst that bloody fool is in charge |
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Post by GrahamHyde on Sept 3, 2019 22:05:16 GMT
They've now switched to majority Tory?
Always thought of them to be a party for the privileged, completely out of tune with everything that the city of Stoke-on-Trent is built on and stands for.
Labour really has made a mess of things it seems.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Sept 3, 2019 22:06:58 GMT
I always thought most people in Stoke were traditionally Labour and left-wing? Labour is now the party of middle class, quinoa munching, Glastonbury goers. What's wrong with quinoa? |
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Post by desman2 on Sept 3, 2019 22:40:58 GMT
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Post by Mendicant on Sept 3, 2019 23:43:58 GMT
By the time the election is called, whenever that might be, so long as Johnson and not Farage is the recognised champion of Brexit then Johnson will have manoeuvred himself and his party into a winning position. This week might not go his way in Parliament but he's on the right track in party politics for now. If there's any coup going on it's for control of the centre-right.
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Post by rivival on Sept 4, 2019 1:29:45 GMT
I've been praying for a general election so Corbyn can get his ass kicked and resign.
Then we might just get our Labour Party back from the racist , Trotsky and provide a decent opposition to a Tory government.
I hope and prey for the sake of our country that this comes to pass.
NO ONE is going to do a deal with us until we restore some sort of normality to our own parliament. It's like a who's who of wanna be boy band members in there at the moment. So many voices all spouting the same dreary shit. Not one of them apart from Boris showing the slightest interest in getting us out of Europe as we voted for. EVERY effort they can make is to betray the people of this country and block Brexit. Well You Tories, Lib Dems and True Labour people I say let's make them pay for their betrayal. It's time they were reminded just who they work for and put their personal opinions to one side and did the job they were elected to do.
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Sept 4, 2019 2:02:35 GMT
By the time the election is called, whenever that might be, so long as Johnson and not Farage is the recognised champion of Brexit then Johnson will have manoeuvred himself and his party into a winning position. This week might not go his way in Parliament but he's on the right track in party politics for now. If there's any coup going on it's for control of the centre-right. I have a feeling that there will be some tactical standing in different constituencies so that the Conservatives and the Brexit Party do not take seats from each other... |
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 4, 2019 5:27:42 GMT
By the time the election is called, whenever that might be, so long as Johnson and not Farage is the recognised champion of Brexit then Johnson will have manoeuvred himself and his party into a winning position. This week might not go his way in Parliament but he's on the right track in party politics for now. If there's any coup going on it's for control of the centre-right. I have a feeling that there will be some tactical standing in different constituencies so that the Conservatives and the Brexit Party do not take seats from each other... Hopefully |
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 4, 2019 5:40:15 GMT
Labour is now the party of middle class, quinoa munching, Glastonbury goers. What's wrong with quinoa? What is quinoa? |
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Post by harryburrows on Sept 4, 2019 5:47:25 GMT
What's wrong with quinoa? What is quinoa? Islington porridge |
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 4, 2019 7:02:41 GMT
What's wrong with quinoa? What is quinoa? Chia without the charm |
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Post by Eggybread on Sept 4, 2019 7:29:09 GMT
I always thought most people in Stoke were traditionally Labour and left-wing? Some people actually think the tories will help them.  |
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