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Post by Eggybread on Sept 4, 2019 7:31:05 GMT
They've now switched to majority Tory? Always thought of them to be a party for the privileged, completely out of tune with everything that the city of Stoke-on-Trent is built on and stands for. Labour really has made a mess of things it seems. Isnt stoke (which is a complete mess) under tory rule? |
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Post by felonious on Sept 4, 2019 7:48:28 GMT
They've now switched to majority Tory? Always thought of them to be a party for the privileged, completely out of tune with everything that the city of Stoke-on-Trent is built on and stands for. Labour really has made a mess of things it seems. Isnt stoke (which is a complete mess) under tory rule? Isn't Stoke still reaping the rewards of 1997 to 2010? |
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Post by Eggybread on Sept 4, 2019 8:04:15 GMT
Isnt stoke (which is a complete mess) under tory rule? Isn't Stoke still reaping the rewards of 1997 to 2010? Not sure what that means as I dont live in S-O-T now, all I know is that when I go back it looks like the city is being systematically destroyed.Shops being boarded up,derelict homes and council cuts and job losses on a scale Ive never heard of or seen before. |
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Post by Foster on Sept 4, 2019 8:21:54 GMT
Isn't Stoke still reaping the rewards of 1997 to 2010? Not sure what that means as I dont live in S-O-T now, all I know is that when I go back it looks like the city is being systematically destroyed.Shops being boarded up,derelict homes and council cuts and job losses on a scale Ive never heard of or seen before. There are plenty of 'amusement' arcades and betting shops though. Great ways to prey on lower income families and the vulnerable. Probably the EUs fault somehow. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 4, 2019 8:25:51 GMT
"Rory Stewart, the former international development secretary who lost the Tory whip last night after voting against the government, has just told BBC News that, if he is not reinstated as a Conservative candidate, he will consider standing as an independent in his Penrith and The Border constituency"
I'm not sure this is working out well for Shagger and The Night Creeper.
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Post by bathstoke on Sept 4, 2019 8:27:13 GMT
Isnt stoke (which is a complete mess) under tory rule? Isn't Stoke still reaping the rewards of 1997 to 2010? No, Because we got relegated under a Tory govt. B@$¥@&ds! |
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Post by salopstick on Sept 4, 2019 9:11:21 GMT
"Rory Stewart, the former international development secretary who lost the Tory whip last night after voting against the government, has just told BBC News that, if he is not reinstated as a Conservative candidate, he will consider standing as an independent in his Penrith and The Border constituency" I'm not sure this is working out well for Shagger and The Night Creeper. People like their constituentcy MPs they also sometimes just put a cross in their relevant party. They see the party name before the candidates name. Some of the remain Tory Mps may have that luxury in remain seats. It won’t rub with any leave areas |
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Post by countofmontecristo on Sept 4, 2019 10:50:07 GMT
Not personal.Just talking nonsense,the fella needs educating.Ill leave it at that. No you won't. Educate me. Still waiting......... |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 4, 2019 11:16:03 GMT
Jeremy currently skewering Johnson in PMQ's
Johnson really is a bit shit and an a complete tit.
Shambles.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2019 11:20:40 GMT
Fuck me Boris Johnson really is an utter clown.
He’s rambling like he’s on drugs during PMQ’s......
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Sept 4, 2019 17:43:22 GMT
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 4, 2019 17:58:53 GMT
Wonder if the majority of them apply for postal votes |
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Post by essexstokey on Sept 4, 2019 20:19:29 GMT
Wonder if the majority of them apply for postal votes Yep probably conservative ex pats who want there say without paying tax in this country |
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Post by Kewstokie on Sept 4, 2019 21:09:25 GMT
Why on earth should the opposition agree to an election at this stage? Boris voted for the 5 year Fixed Parliament Act and took the PM role knowing, and fully anticipating, a further 3 years in power - more than enough for him and his right wing cronies to milk the system with tax cuts for the rich, overseas tax avoidance and opportunities galore for the exchange market gamblers to continue to make a fortune on runs against the £. You wanted it Boris, so stick with it.
The opposition should hold out while Boris gets the new deal with the EU he's trumpeting. If he can't get a new deal (and he won't) then as opposition I'd sit tight and force him into sponsoring a vote of no confidence in his own government to trigger an election.
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Post by salopstick on Sept 5, 2019 2:44:29 GMT
What a shit house chicken Corbyn is.
Been calling for an election for ever. Gets his opportunity and shits out.
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 5, 2019 4:11:18 GMT
Wonder if the majority of them apply for postal votes Yep probably conservative ex pats who want there say without paying tax in this country I hope so |
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Post by Northy on Sept 5, 2019 6:13:56 GMT
Why on earth should the opposition agree to an election at this stage? Boris voted for the 5 year Fixed Parliament Act and took the PM role knowing, and fully anticipating, a further 3 years in power - more than enough for him and his right wing cronies to milk the system with tax cuts for the rich, overseas tax avoidance and opportunities galore for the exchange market gamblers to continue to make a fortune on runs against the £. You wanted it Boris, so stick with it. The opposition should hold out while Boris gets the new deal with the EU he's trumpeting. If he can't get a new deal (and he won't) then as opposition I'd sit tight and force him into sponsoring a vote of no confidence in his own government to trigger an election. Theyve been demanding one for over 2 years, almost weekly, he has now given that option to them and they turned chicken |
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Post by mattyd on Sept 5, 2019 9:08:04 GMT
Why on earth should the opposition agree to an election at this stage? Boris voted for the 5 year Fixed Parliament Act and took the PM role knowing, and fully anticipating, a further 3 years in power - more than enough for him and his right wing cronies to milk the system with tax cuts for the rich, overseas tax avoidance and opportunities galore for the exchange market gamblers to continue to make a fortune on runs against the £. You wanted it Boris, so stick with it. The opposition should hold out while Boris gets the new deal with the EU he's trumpeting. If he can't get a new deal (and he won't) then as opposition I'd sit tight and force him into sponsoring a vote of no confidence in his own government to trigger an election. Theyve been demanding one for over 2 years, almost weekly, he has now given that option to them and they turned chicken Chlorinated Ones?. Loved Bodgers quip about Momentum holding a protest rally. " What do we want?" "Not really sure" "When do we want it?" "Don't know". |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2019 10:07:51 GMT
Why on earth should the opposition agree to an election at this stage? Boris voted for the 5 year Fixed Parliament Act and took the PM role knowing, and fully anticipating, a further 3 years in power - more than enough for him and his right wing cronies to milk the system with tax cuts for the rich, overseas tax avoidance and opportunities galore for the exchange market gamblers to continue to make a fortune on runs against the £. You wanted it Boris, so stick with it. The opposition should hold out while Boris gets the new deal with the EU he's trumpeting. If he can't get a new deal (and he won't) then as opposition I'd sit tight and force him into sponsoring a vote of no confidence in his own government to trigger an election. Theyve been demanding one for over 2 years, almost weekly, he has now given that option to them and they turned chicken They're ensuring a law is in place first, and an extension agreed with the EU, then an election can happen. Agree to one before that and BJ can ensure there is no time for these critical meetings to happen and we leave without a deal without parliament having a say in the matter. Thankfully this week we've seen some politicians put the country before their parties, and BJ and his cronies have shown their true colours. |
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Post by mattyd on Sept 5, 2019 10:41:44 GMT
Wonder if the majority of them apply for postal votes Yep probably conservative ex pats who want there say without paying tax in this country Joey... I spent ages showing you the difference between there & their, and for a while you seemed to have grasped it...And now THIS. Could do better...0/10. Incidentally, please remind us what you got your degree in. |
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Post by Northy on Sept 5, 2019 10:58:59 GMT
Theyve been demanding one for over 2 years, almost weekly, he has now given that option to them and they turned chicken They're ensuring a law is in place first, and an extension agreed with the EU, then an election can happen. Agree to one before that and BJ can ensure there is no time for these critical meetings to happen and we leave without a deal without parliament having a say in the matter. Thankfully this week we've seen some politicians put the country before their parties, and BJ and his cronies have shown their true colours. Parliament had a say in the matter over 2 fookin years ago, they voted to trigger A50 which default was to leave without a deal, fookin schisters the lot of them. |
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Post by Davef on Sept 5, 2019 11:37:29 GMT
They're ensuring a law is in place first, and an extension agreed with the EU, then an election can happen. Agree to one before that and BJ can ensure there is no time for these critical meetings to happen and we leave without a deal without parliament having a say in the matter. Thankfully this week we've seen some politicians put the country before their parties, and BJ and his cronies have shown their true colours. Parliament had a say in the matter over 2 fookin years ago, they voted to trigger A50 which default was to leave without a deal, fookin schisters the lot of them. Article 50 states that there is a two year period to negotiate a withdrawal agreement, which if isn't then ratified will see the treaties cease to apply and the withdrawing state no longer a member unless the European Council and the withdrawing state agree to an extension...which they did last May, and which looks likely next month. |
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Sept 5, 2019 11:45:05 GMT
Theyve been demanding one for over 2 years, almost weekly, he has now given that option to them and they turned chicken Chlorinated Ones?. Loved Bodgers quip about Momentum holding a protest rally. " What do we want?" "Not really sure" "When do we want it?" "Don't know". Some great soundbites and the front page of "The Sun" has lapped it up... It's usually good to have some substance aswell though, so what do you make of his plans on the Irish Border? |
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Post by Northy on Sept 5, 2019 11:48:34 GMT
Parliament had a say in the matter over 2 fookin years ago, they voted to trigger A50 which default was to leave without a deal, fookin schisters the lot of them. Article 50 states that there is a two year period to negotiate a withdrawal agreement, which if isn't then ratified will see the treaties cease to apply and the withdrawing state no longer a member unless the European Council and the withdrawing state agree to an extension...which they did last May, and which looks likely next month. It's not what Cameron told us - www.facebook.com/TomHarwoodCommentator/videos/366104467668552/Or the legalities - The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period. The request to extend made by outgoing Prime Minister Theresa May under Article 50 for an extension of the UK’s EU membership until 30 June 2019, concludes that this request was legally valid; however, it was rejected by the EU. The counter-proposal by the EU did not comply with the terms of the proviso to Art.50(3) TEU, and accordingly that is was not effective in law to stop the Article 50 process running up to and including 29 March 2019 at 11.00pm. and concludes: Whichever way one looks at it, the Agreement was either unlawful or made for an unlawful purpose or ultra vires .That means that the UK left the EU on the 29th March 2019 by default as there was no valid or lawful impediment to prevent it. |
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Post by Davef on Sept 5, 2019 11:51:06 GMT
Article 50 states that there is a two year period to negotiate a withdrawal agreement, which if isn't then ratified will see the treaties cease to apply and the withdrawing state no longer a member unless the European Council and the withdrawing state agree to an extension...which they did last May, and which looks likely next month. It's not what Cameron told us - www.facebook.com/TomHarwoodCommentator/videos/366104467668552/Or the legalities - The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period. The request to extend made by outgoing Prime Minister Theresa May under Article 50 for an extension of the UK’s EU membership until 30 June 2019, concludes that this request was legally valid; however, it was rejected by the EU. The counter-proposal by the EU did not comply with the terms of the proviso to Art.50(3) TEU, and accordingly that is was not effective in law to stop the Article 50 process running up to and including 29 March 2019 at 11.00pm. and concludes: Whichever way one looks at it, the Agreement was either unlawful or made for an unlawful purpose or ultra vires .That means that the UK left the EU on the 29th March 2019 by default as there was no valid or lawful impediment to prevent it. Where have you copied and pasted that last bit from? |
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Post by Northy on Sept 5, 2019 15:09:15 GMT
It's not what Cameron told us - www.facebook.com/TomHarwoodCommentator/videos/366104467668552/Or the legalities - The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period. The request to extend made by outgoing Prime Minister Theresa May under Article 50 for an extension of the UK’s EU membership until 30 June 2019, concludes that this request was legally valid; however, it was rejected by the EU. The counter-proposal by the EU did not comply with the terms of the proviso to Art.50(3) TEU, and accordingly that is was not effective in law to stop the Article 50 process running up to and including 29 March 2019 at 11.00pm. and concludes: Whichever way one looks at it, the Agreement was either unlawful or made for an unlawful purpose or ultra vires .That means that the UK left the EU on the 29th March 2019 by default as there was no valid or lawful impediment to prevent it. Where have you copied and pasted that last bit from? lawyers for Britain I think, from somebody who served high at the bar for 40 years |
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Post by Davef on Sept 5, 2019 15:12:59 GMT
Where have you copied and pasted that last bit from? lawyers for Britain I think, from somebody who served high at the bar for 40 years Oh right. One of those experts we've all had enough of then?  |
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Post by Northy on Sept 5, 2019 15:26:08 GMT
lawyers for Britain I think, from somebody who served high at the bar for 40 years Oh right. One of those experts we've all had enough of then? Not an MP though ! |
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Post by Davef on Sept 5, 2019 15:36:33 GMT
Oh right. One of those experts we've all had enough of then? Not an MP though ! Neither is that consultant neurologist who Rees-Mogg was arguing with the other day. |
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Post by serpico on Sept 5, 2019 15:37:07 GMT
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