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Post by mickey2693 on May 18, 2019 10:28:25 GMT
It's depressing but true and there's a whole lot more you could have added. Anyone who thinks we have a chance of pushing for promotion under the current ownership is deluded. Agree with you Pol. It's an unpopular opinion to think we won't get promoted under the current ownership one that i share and stated when we got relegated that to get a complete overhaul of the club it could well take new owners as I can't see things changing for the better this malaise over the club still has its grip and it's concerning. New owners would be nothing short of a disaster for this club. |
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Post by RAF on May 18, 2019 10:28:59 GMT
He needs to speak less!
Does anyone actually have any confidence in anything he has said over the last few years?
Lessons have been learnt and I don't see what all the fuss is about are the hallmarks of someone who has lost any semblance of reality and control
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Post by FullerMagic on May 18, 2019 11:08:15 GMT
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Post by Goonie on May 18, 2019 11:14:58 GMT
I cant help but read the thread title and think of Harpo Marx's autobiography of the same title (Harpo Speaks!) 😁
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Post by thevoid on May 18, 2019 12:16:15 GMT
Agree with you Pol. It's an unpopular opinion to think we won't get promoted under the current ownership one that i share and stated when we got relegated that to get a complete overhaul of the club it could well take new owners as I can't see things changing for the better this malaise over the club still has its grip and it's concerning. New owners would be nothing short of a disaster for this club. Does that apply to anyone? |
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Post by rawli on May 18, 2019 12:32:27 GMT
I keep seeing this comment about people not appreciating how bad we were last season. Well we were better than West Brom and they managed to comfortably make the play-offs this season, despite spending a fraction of what we splashed out. West Brom did have momentum though. They finished a disastrous season on the up and had the continuity of the same manager. |
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Post by numberounominion on May 18, 2019 15:35:10 GMT
I like Peter Coates , I am sure he knows a lot about business , about running a football club , and I am sure his hearts in the right place .
but likewise Lord sugar ( AKA alan sugar , AKA that bloke from the apprentice )
Alan Sugar loved his beloved Spurs , but that didn't stop him selling up, and letting some one else have a go
In hindsight , we now know that while Lord Sugar has gone on to make a fortune in electronics , media and property investments . Daniel Levy has gone on to do an even better job of running spurs, than himself .
It's a suggestion ( nothing more ) but I reckon PC , JC and the Coates family could do worse than have a chat with Mr Sugar .
Stoke City are at a crossroads , and as the example of Spurs and Lord Sugar shows , there is more than one way to go .
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Post by PolPotter on May 18, 2019 16:29:14 GMT
Agree with you Pol. It's an unpopular opinion to think we won't get promoted under the current ownership one that i share and stated when we got relegated that to get a complete overhaul of the club it could well take new owners as I can't see things changing for the better this malaise over the club still has its grip and it's concerning. New owners would be nothing short of a disaster for this club. That's not necessarily true. |
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Post by numberounominion on May 18, 2019 16:32:34 GMT
New owners would be nothing short of a disaster for this club. That's not necessarily true. Look at the example of spurs They couldn't have had a much wealthier genuine fan in charge than Alan Sugar Since lord sugar sold up, they have done even better |
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Post by bigvern on May 18, 2019 17:24:04 GMT
That's not necessarily true. Look at the example of spurs They couldn't have had a much wealthier genuine fan in charge than Alan Sugar Since lord sugar sold up, they have done even better Spurs will always be attractive to potential buyers due to their fan base, history and location, and then there's Stoke City. |
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Post by mickey2693 on May 18, 2019 17:44:00 GMT
That's not necessarily true. Look at the example of spurs They couldn't have had a much wealthier genuine fan in charge than Alan Sugar Since lord sugar sold up, they have done even better We are absolutely nothing like Spurs though (And they have won less under Levy then Sugar) The Coates family fundamentally have the best interests of the club and area at heart. They've invested more into the club than they will likely ever be able to reclaim. If we're ever sold it'll probably be to some foreign consortium, can you remember how good that was last time? |
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Post by devondumpling on May 18, 2019 17:52:31 GMT
I like Peter Coates , I am sure he knows a lot about business , about running a football club , and I am sure his hearts in the right place . but likewise Lord sugar ( AKA alan sugar , AKA that bloke from the apprentice ) Alan Sugar loved his beloved Spurs , but that didn't stop him selling up, and letting some one else have a go In hindsight , we now know that while Lord Sugar has gone on to make a fortune in electronics , media and property investments . Daniel Levy has gone on to do an even better job of running spurs, than himself . It's a suggestion ( nothing more ) but I reckon PC , JC and the Coates family could do worse than have a chat with Mr Sugar . Stoke City are at a crossroads , and as the example of Spurs and Lord Sugar shows , there is more than one way to go . Different scenario, Sugar only owned 29.8% of Tottenham. |
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Post by clarkeda on May 19, 2019 9:16:15 GMT
some bollocks on here. without the coats we would be vale No, without coats we’d get wet in the rain. |
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Post by FullerMagic on May 19, 2019 11:12:10 GMT
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Post by Absolution on May 19, 2019 12:17:45 GMT
Look at the example of spurs They couldn't have had a much wealthier genuine fan in charge than Alan Sugar Since lord sugar sold up, they have done even better We are absolutely nothing like Spurs though (And they have won less under Levy then Sugar) The Coates family fundamentally have the best interests of the club and area at heart. They've invested more into the club than they will likely ever be able to reclaim. If we're ever sold it'll probably be to some foreign consortium, can you remember how good that was last time? Yeah, they took over us in the third tier and left us in the second tier. |
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Post by numberounominion on May 19, 2019 16:48:19 GMT
Look at the example of spurs They couldn't have had a much wealthier genuine fan in charge than Alan Sugar Since lord sugar sold up, they have done even better Spurs will always be attractive to potential buyers due to their fan base, history and location, and then there's Stoke City. A better example then would be Elton John at Watford I doubt there are any life long Watford fans with more cash than Elton John But Elton John selling up has not been ' disastrous ' for the club |
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Post by owdestokie2 on May 19, 2019 18:12:27 GMT
I appreciate PC making public statements and it’s difficult under the present circumstances. However;
Verbatim Extract
PC: It’s a very, very tough league and you want players that are fully committed to your club and will go out there and give it everything they’ve got.
That’s the quality, and be a unit with good team spirit.
A togetherness, so they play for each other as well as themselves and the football club, going out and giving all they’ve got. That’s all you ever ask of anybody.
Surely those standard requirements reflect what was needed in the EPL. What business risk analysis and/or due diligence checks were carried out on the transfer/loan deals the likes of;
Bony, Affelay, Berahino, Imbula, Wimmer, Ndaiye, Jesé, Joselu, Ramadan, Chopo-Moting etc
The recruitment process managed by the CEO was the reason why we were relegated. Accept it and make changes at Director level
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Post by thevoid on May 19, 2019 22:56:19 GMT
I keep seeing this comment about people not appreciating how bad we were last season. Well we were better than West Brom and they managed to comfortably make the play-offs this season, despite spending a fraction of what we splashed out. Im not sure we were any better than West Brom Smudge we were clearly in a constant sliding decline and could have actually saved ourselves in our last few games. withered on the vine. went out with a whimper with no comment or input from our owners. Followed by a turgid boring season in the Championship where our ten year tenure in the Prem under the stewardship of TP are long forgotten and often maligned I could have sworn Mark Hughes was in charge for several seasons where we finished higher in the league than under Pulis, reached a cup semi, won away at Man City, finally beat Chelsea and Man Utd and signed players such as Bojan and Shaqiri? I've heard of re-writing history but you post fantasy fiction that George RR Martin would be proud of. |
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Post by thevoid on May 19, 2019 23:03:19 GMT
Look at the example of spurs They couldn't have had a much wealthier genuine fan in charge than Alan Sugar Since lord sugar sold up, they have done even better We are absolutely nothing like Spurs though (And they have won less under Levy then Sugar) The Coates family fundamentally have the best interests of the club and area at heart. They've invested more into the club than they will likely ever be able to reclaim. If we're ever sold it'll probably be to some foreign consortium, can you remember how good that was last time? Do you mean under the Icelanders when we broke our transfer record twice, won the Autoglass (or whatever it was called) and had a promotion? It may even have been an earlier promotion had we not been stitched up by that c*nt Styles. The club were in deep shit under Coates and the Icelanders saved us from potential oblivion. |
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Post by GoBoks on May 19, 2019 23:53:40 GMT
I like Peter Coates , I am sure he knows a lot about business , about running a football club , and I am sure his hearts in the right place . but likewise Lord sugar ( AKA alan sugar , AKA that bloke from the apprentice ) Alan Sugar loved his beloved Spurs , but that didn't stop him selling up, and letting some one else have a go In hindsight , we now know that while Lord Sugar has gone on to make a fortune in electronics , media and property investments . Daniel Levy has gone on to do an even better job of running spurs, than himself . It's a suggestion ( nothing more ) but I reckon PC , JC and the Coates family could do worse than have a chat with Mr Sugar . Stoke City are at a crossroads , and as the example of Spurs and Lord Sugar shows , there is more than one way to go . Spurs would have a line of suitable investors dying for the chance. How many people with the right money, knowledge and love for the club do you think would be queuing up to buy Stoke. Please send answers on a postcard from Reykjavik. |
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Post by FullerMagic on May 26, 2019 12:12:37 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on May 26, 2019 13:30:31 GMT
I keep seeing this comment about people not appreciating how bad we were last season. Well we were better than West Brom and they managed to comfortably make the play-offs this season, despite spending a fraction of what we splashed out. West Brom did have momentum though. They finished a disastrous season on the up and had the continuity of the same manager. I think its more the fact they had Dwight Gayle than momentum, really weird we were at one point aiming for Afobe / Gayle or Gray front two then somehow decided Afobe / Berahino or Crouch would do..... |
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Post by dreamtheater on May 26, 2019 13:49:02 GMT
Dave - another one of my foresights
I wouldve got Dwight Gayle last season before anybody else - Id have pushed the boat out
the plan to return to the premier - first time of asking - make a statement of intent - no fucking about
'no brainer' there, right in front of us AGAIN
nailed on success if we had done that - Ritchie too
As it was - we fucked about dithered - ummed and arrrd - we got 'B listers' , spent another fucking fortune and went -- bloody nowhere
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Post by FullerMagic on May 26, 2019 13:50:59 GMT
Dave - another one of my foresights I wouldve got Dwight Gayle last season before anybody else - Id have pushed the boat outno brainer there, right in front of us AGAIN nailed on success if we had done that - Ritchie too as it was - we fucked about - ummed and arrrd we got 'B listers' spent another fucking fortune and went -- bloody nowhere That was the plan apparently. But Rowett chose Afobe. |
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Post by Pugsley on May 26, 2019 13:51:26 GMT
Dave - another one of my foresights I wouldve got Dwight Gayle last season before anybody else - Id have pushed the boat out no brainer there, right in front of us AGAIN nailed on success if we had done that - Ritchie too as it was - we fucked about - ummed and arrrd we got 'B listers' spent another fucking fortune and went -- bloody nowhere <iframe width="22.960000000000036" height="5.439999999999998" style="position: absolute; width: 22.960000000000036px; height: 5.439999999999998px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_54664492" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="22.960000000000036" height="5.439999999999998" style="position: absolute; width: 22.96px; height: 5.44px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1089px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_92625694" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="22.960000000000036" height="5.439999999999998" style="position: absolute; width: 22.96px; height: 5.44px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 210px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_90372389" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="22.960000000000036" height="5.439999999999998" style="position: absolute; width: 22.96px; height: 5.44px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1089px; top: 210px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_45468038" scrolling="no"></iframe> Lol, arse gravy. |
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Post by middleoftheboothen on May 26, 2019 13:59:03 GMT
I like Peter Coates , I am sure he knows a lot about business , about running a football club , and I am sure his hearts in the right place . but likewise Lord sugar ( AKA alan sugar , AKA that bloke from the apprentice ) Alan Sugar loved his beloved Spurs , but that didn't stop him selling up, and letting some one else have a go In hindsight , we now know that while Lord Sugar has gone on to make a fortune in electronics , media and property investments . Daniel Levy has gone on to do an even better job of running spurs, than himself . It's a suggestion ( nothing more ) but I reckon PC , JC and the Coates family could do worse than have a chat with Mr Sugar . Stoke City are at a crossroads , and as the example of Spurs and Lord Sugar shows , there is more than one way to go . An absolute pile of steaming dogshit. |
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Post by dreamtheater on May 26, 2019 14:00:02 GMT
arse gravy ? maybe --true ? definitely
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Post by berahinosgoals on May 26, 2019 14:02:21 GMT
Dwight Gayle would have soon got pissed off with no service. Would he have scored any more than afobe with the lack of goalscoring opportunities?
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Post by dreamtheater on May 26, 2019 14:05:34 GMT
you sign a high profile front man -with nailed on goals proven at that level & above, and the whole team dynamic changes
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Post by FullerMagic on May 26, 2019 14:06:57 GMT
you sign a high profile front man -with nailed on goals and the whole team dynamic changes Again, Tony, this was the club plan. Gary Rowett had a a different plan - Afobe - and he was backed. |
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