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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2019 2:33:15 GMT
its the younger fans that are knackering are club Absolute bollocks, it's dinosaur fans like you that allow us to be as mediocre as we are. Christ, just look at the way we run things off the pitch. In the modern age it's an absolute disgrace but I bet you're one of them that don't care because you "go to the match every week like a real fan" small minds, small club |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2019 5:57:45 GMT
The buck stops at the top. Rowett may have underperformed and made some questionable signings but who allowed him to make those signings ? He didn't have a free hand. There are people to blame Mr Coates and you are one of those people Are you saying someone should be able to say no to the players the manager wants? Are you really saying someone doesn't sometimes ? |
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 15, 2019 7:50:47 GMT
its the younger fans that are knackering are club Absolute bollocks, it's dinosaur fans like you that allow us to be as mediocre as we are. Christ, just look at the way we run things off the pitch. In the modern age it's an absolute disgrace but I bet you're one of them that don't care because you "go to the match every week like a real fan" small minds, small club Ambition. |
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Post by stokiejoe on May 15, 2019 8:00:04 GMT
As my old dad used to say "Stinking fish starts at the head". His comment: " I felt we should have a minimum requirement of being in the top-six, I didn’t think that was unrealistic given the squad we’d got and the money we’d spent" requires the following observations: 1. " given the squad we'd got" demonstrates the lack of appreciation of how bad we were the previous season and and a sense of nonchalance. We had a squad that conceded a huge amount of goals and was clearly the weakest in the Prem. Under Lambert we were incapable of creating and scoring goals and our most creative player Shaqiri left. There was a desperate requirement to strengthen the defence which Zouma had left, but we left it till the end of the transfer window to sign Williams and Martina who's loss of form was alarming. There has been a desperate need to bring in creative players, since Arni left and Bojan was dispensed with. The best striker in the land would struggle to score with our lack of creation. McClean is not a creator and Ince has been moved on by ever club he has played for. 2. "the money we'd spent" presumably means the money Rowett spent, but alarm bells should have been ringing with the money we'd spent of Berahino, Wimmer, and Imbula, or does Coates think that signings is 100% down to the manager and the recruitment team are blameless? It would appear so since they are still intact. 3. On the subject of recruitment, the club is clearly in a mess. They stuck too long with Hughes, which I understand, but then made a hash of replacing him, having been turned down by at least two potential managers (we don't know who else was sounded out) before settling on Lambert, which proved to be a failure. With the players mentioned above and managers chosen, we must be the world's worst club at picking employees who are either useless, or have a lousy attitude. 4. I have some sympathy with the appointment of Rowett. I welcomed his appointment and wrongly assumed the club had made a wise choice. I soon smelt a rat last summer with Rowett's comments; after over 35 years in management I can detect someone who is full of bull. The selection of players signed, pre-season, first 10 matches all confirmed my suspicion that Rowett was out of his depth. He managed to batten down the hatches and stop the losses, but at the expense of stopping scoring and some dire football. When we started losing again after an undefeated run, he clearly had to go. 5. I welcomed the appointment of Jones. Regrettably he has had to contend with all the problems Rowett faced, plus the problems Rowett created, plus Berahino going off the rails again, which might not make much difference on the pitch, but must be very damaging in the dressing room and make some honest hard-working pros wonder what sort of an organization they are working in. 6. Finally PC has got to realise that when all the picking of players and managers is going consistently wrong, that it must have something to do with those doing the picking. He needs to change the board members. Fully agree with this. The most alarming comment from Peter Coates was his rating of the quality of the squad. Not sure that this may mean he will inhibit their replacement if he values them so highly. The problem for me is whatever their quality as individuals they can't play as a team. Given that football is a team game it worries me. We have a manager who wishes to play a certain style, whether that works or not depends on having a team that fits into it. If he can't get the players who fit in then it clearly won't work and many of our existing players don't fit that style as we have seen. |
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Post by standbutler1 on May 15, 2019 9:05:00 GMT
its the younger fans that are knackering are club Absolute bollocks, it's dinosaur fans like you that allow us to be as mediocre as we are. Christ, just look at the way we run things off the pitch. In the modern age it's an absolute disgrace but I bet you're one of them that don't care because you "go to the match every week like a real fan" small minds, small club No rob as you know I don't go every week (due to health) I watch it on your site. My point is the younger fan has spent more time watching more premier football than the lower divisions. Thinking we automatically belong there. us dinosaurs have watched us in the lower divisions and don't have the same silly expectations. Do you think the Coates family want us in the lower divisions ?. If it was that easy to get in the prem there would be 70 odd teams in it. |
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Post by warringtonstokie on May 15, 2019 9:27:11 GMT
its the younger fans that are knackering are club How's that then? It's 'our' by the way. |
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Post by franklin66 on May 15, 2019 9:32:41 GMT
PC is right to a point about the quality of the squad. In terms of names and footballing ability we should have pissed it but no character and guts. No passion no courage no care no interest however you want to term it made them wank.
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Post by nott1 on May 15, 2019 10:52:45 GMT
I maintain that Rowett was a fine appointment and the right one that we needed at the time. For whatever reason, he couldn't dispel the stink of 2.5 years of decline and rot. But with the benefit of hindsight, he was far too industrial and his approach to going to work was not dissimilar to anyone that doesn't enjoy their work. I rarely find Coates' comments insightful, more humdrum to be honest. But the fact that he's too nice to see where the blame should lie is alarming. Rowett was a fine appointment?  |
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Post by nott1 on May 15, 2019 10:54:16 GMT
its the younger fans that are knackering are club How's that then? It's 'our' by the way. I've just seen another "would of" too! |
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Post by mrred on May 15, 2019 10:55:24 GMT
I maintain that Rowett was a fine appointment and the right one that we needed at the time. For whatever reason, he couldn't dispel the stink of 2.5 years of decline and rot. But with the benefit of hindsight, he was far too industrial and his approach to going to work was not dissimilar to anyone that doesn't enjoy their work. I rarely find Coates' comments insightful, more humdrum to be honest. But the fact that he's too nice to see where the blame should lie is alarming. Rowett was a fine appointment? At the time of appointment, given the options- yes. |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on May 15, 2019 10:58:50 GMT
PC is right to a point about the quality of the squad. In terms of names and footballing ability we should have pissed it but no character and guts. No passion no courage no care no interest however you want to term it made them wank. When you look at how other teams are recruiting, and the strategies employed, our recruitment was terrible. Your system should inform the recruitment and transfers, last year we were signing players seemingly just because they had Premier League experience. Picking an injured Clucas, and then being unable to identify a consistent position for him being the worst and most obvious example. |
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Post by Gary Hackett on May 15, 2019 10:59:19 GMT
I maintain that Rowett was a fine appointment and the right one that we needed at the time. Are you serious? Spending nearly 40m on Afobe, Ince, McClean, Clucas and Martina says otherwise. |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on May 15, 2019 11:01:38 GMT
Absolute bollocks, it's dinosaur fans like you that allow us to be as mediocre as we are. Christ, just look at the way we run things off the pitch. In the modern age it's an absolute disgrace but I bet you're one of them that don't care because you "go to the match every week like a real fan" small minds, small club No rob as you know I don't go every week (due to health) I watch it on your site. My point is the younger fan has spent more time watching more premier football than the lower divisions. Thinking we automatically belong there. us dinosaurs have watched us in the lower divisions and don't have the same silly expectations. Do you think the Coates family want us in the lower divisions ?. If it was that easy to get in the prem there would be 70 odd teams in it. I’m in my mid 20s and started going when we were in the 3rd tier, the club back then was a world away from what it is now in terms of infrastructure and backing. You don’t stay in the Premier League for 10 years and not get rich, literally impossible. When we got relegated we shouldn’t instantly revert to “little old Stoke” of the 90s and early 00s because the club has resources way above and beyond that. Demanding instant success is granted stupid, demanding some semblance of accountability from the club after 3-4 years of flat out decline is perfectly acceptable and understandable. |
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Post by mrred on May 15, 2019 12:11:18 GMT
I maintain that Rowett was a fine appointment and the right one that we needed at the time. Are you serious? Spending nearly 40m on Afobe, Ince, McClean, Clucas and Martina says otherwise. Read my other comment. For the managers available at the time, for the experience he supposedly had. We can say what a bad choice he was with the benefit of hindsight. |
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Post by dreamtheater on May 15, 2019 12:18:52 GMT
I maintain that Rowett was a fine appointment and the right one that we needed at the time. For whatever reason, he couldn't dispel the stink of 2.5 years of decline and rot. But with the benefit of hindsight, he was far too industrial and his approach to going to work was not dissimilar to anyone that doesn't enjoy their work. I rarely find Coates' comments insightful, more humdrum to be honest. But 😣😣😣😣😣"the fact that he's too nice to see where the blame should lie" is alarming. THIS😣😣😣😣😣😣😣😣😣😣😣 |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 15, 2019 12:35:05 GMT
How was 'Rowett a fine appointment'? His spending has contributed significantly to this mess.
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Post by shangamuzo on May 15, 2019 13:07:18 GMT
How was 'Rowett a fine appointment'? His spending has contributed significantly to this mess. Dust think he'd have done better than Jones still in place ? I don't. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 15, 2019 13:12:03 GMT
How was 'Rowett a fine appointment'? His spending has contributed significantly to this mess. Dust think he'd have done better than Jones still in place ? I don't. No, he’d have spunked a load more cash on shite. |
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Post by kelw on May 15, 2019 13:12:14 GMT
"He declined to point any fingers at anyone he held specifically responsible for Stoke’s dismal season". “Well no-one is to blame" Dear fucking God. If he blamed someone wouldn't he be doubly criticised for that to be fair? Seems to me he's putting it behind him and looking forward which is the right thing to do rather than point fingers. Rumour has it he's quite an astute business man and done OK with his decision making from time to time |
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Post by wakefieldstokie on May 15, 2019 14:06:57 GMT
Everyone has an old uncle in the family who basically sits there and says nothing, well they probably do but everyone ignores them. On the occasion that you remotely listen to what they say it’s the biggest load of bollocks you’ve ever heard, well Peter tonight’s prize goes firmly to you. You’d think that he’d keep his daft mouth shut terrible post. We are lucky to have the Coates family in charge. They gave Rowett the biggest budget in the league by far. In the face of it, most would have thought Rowett would be a solid appointment. The blame for this season lies firmly with Rowett. Not just a terrible post but so rude and disrespectful about a man who’s made more money than most of us can imagine, that requires intelligence and a host of other key skills. If nothing else this man has brought so much enjoyment to stoke city fans only a few years ago. Take the mickey, but show some bloody respect when it’s due. |
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Post by loosestools on May 15, 2019 14:29:00 GMT
terrible post. We are lucky to have the Coates family in charge. They gave Rowett the biggest budget in the league by far. In the face of it, most would have thought Rowett would be a solid appointment. The blame for this season lies firmly with Rowett. Not just a terrible post but so rude and disrespectful about a man who’s made more money than most of us can imagine, that requires intelligence and a host of other key skills. If nothing else this man has brought so much enjoyment to stoke city fans only a few years ago. Take the mickey, but show some bloody respect when it’s due. Well said Glasgow/Wakefield, this Coates Family abuse must stop now. |
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Post by sheds1862 on May 15, 2019 14:41:31 GMT
Whatever next slogans daubed on the A500 🤔
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2019 15:03:24 GMT
The lack of ambition is shocking. Unforgivable, the way we dropped out of the prem. Unforgivsble. Anyone with a nose on their face could see where we were going. Amazing that the people who run the club couldn't see it!
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Post by thevoid on May 15, 2019 16:09:06 GMT
Silly old fool, needs to keep his trap shut.
He's so out of touch he may as well be in a different universe.
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Post by Gods on May 15, 2019 16:14:58 GMT
Silly old fool, needs to keep his trap shut. He's so out of touch he may as well be in a different universe. He won't keep his trap shut and his wallet open ! |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on May 15, 2019 17:52:23 GMT
Well I though we'd be top six at the start of the season but at half time in the Leeds game I realised how wrong I was. A good number of people (including me) under-estimated just how bad our squad was.
Rowett's signings were just the lippy on the pig. The lippy might not have been top quality but it wasn't his fault he inherited one really ugly pig.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 15, 2019 18:07:31 GMT
Well I though we'd be top six at the start of the season but at half time in the Leeds game I realised how wrong I was. A good number of people (including me) under-estimated just how bad our squad was. Rowett's signings were just the lippy on the pig. The lippy might not have been top quality but it wasn't his fault he inherited one really ugly pig. If they were the lippy then it was a lippy that gave the pig a severe allergic reaction that resulted in the pig’s face swelling and contorting until it was in effect the elephant pig. |
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Post by questionable on May 15, 2019 18:57:35 GMT
I maintain that Rowett was a fine appointment and the right one that we needed at the time. Are you serious? Spending nearly 40m on Afobe, Ince, McClean, Clucas and Martina says otherwise. It’s the lies from the likes of Scholes I detest, I really can’t stand the bloke, I was on the next table to him at a charity event last year and god what a tool, for the fool to actually try and tell us that we’d spent in the region of 100 games watching the above players is an insult. Never seen Martina play but the remainder are actually quite shit and always have been, so why the friggin hell did we buy them you couldn’t make it up |
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Post by leicspotter on May 15, 2019 19:14:36 GMT
At the start of this season we were the bookies favourites for promotion, and many on here stated that we would / should "piss this league". Clearly our owner shared these views. My concern is that Mr Coates had just spent a season and a half watching Mark Hughes's side become toxic and helpless. Could he, and others, not see the dire position we were in? Hughes had to go (should have gone sooner for me) and, AT THE TIME, I and many others thought Rowett was a good appointment, so I don't blame the chairman for that. My concern is that, when GR was appointed we had already seen what can happen if you sign the wrong sort of player (benefit of hindsight) so what did Mr Coates do to try and avoid a repetition? I have no idea how our recruitment process works (does anyone?) but there have clearly been issues, so I would hope (expect) the people in charge to put measures in place to try and safeguard against future recruitment mistakes maybe they did...the evidence suggests not Turns out the job of sorting SCFC out was beyond Rowett, and I feel that part of this was that he, himself, also believed he was inheriting a strong squad (at Championship level at least) leading him to fail to address some key recruitment needs I guess the real question that needs answering is: How come so many people: bookies, chairman, managers and some supporters, could all be so blind to the shitfest that the squad had become?  |
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Post by FullerMagic on May 15, 2019 19:16:03 GMT
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