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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2018 18:54:30 GMT
Why has my thread been merged with this conspiracy bollocks? Because it IS A CONSPIRACY man: Wormwood, Kennedy, the moon landings, iraq, 911.............and now us! 😉
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 2, 2018 19:16:23 GMT
'Drivel' is what you're asking for, a misrepresentation of reality. I don't do 'pretending', I'm not nine years old. I'm not being negative for the sake of it - when there's cause to be positive I'm positive. When there isn't, I'm not. I call it as I see it. The whole point of the board is for opinions to be voiced, it beggars belief you're telling people to suppress them. Mindless, baseless happy clapping on here isn't going to make a blind bit of difference to the team one way or another. I disagree. A toxic (pardon the pun) environment bleeds affects the way people feel and act. Being a constant downer on here will not help the team one iota but may affect peoples attitudes and increase the general feeling of hopelessness. However, being positive for the next 6 games, will certainly not hurt the team one iota and may affect peoples attitudes and decrease the general feeling of hopelessness. It’s not a ‘constant downer’, it’s calling it as you see it. When there’s good, talk about the good, when there’s bad, talk about the bad. That makes you appreciate the good when it comes along all the more. What you’re describing is what Comical Ali did during the last Gulf War, insisting everything was glorious while American tanks rolled into the city in the background. It doesn’t help anybody.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2018 19:48:00 GMT
There's no agenda to get rid of anyone in the Premier League. That's just a ridiculous and paranoid opinion. sorry mate but, your in the minority on this one. Its bent ,just how many more examples do you need ?
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Post by Davef on Apr 2, 2018 20:01:01 GMT
There's no agenda to get rid of anyone in the Premier League. That's just a ridiculous and paranoid opinion. sorry mate but, your in the minority on this one. Its bent ,just how many more examples do you need ? Do spineless referees cave on the grounds of the big clubs? Yes. Is there a conspiracy on the part of the FA to get rid of Stoke City? Don't be ridiculous.
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Post by GoBoks on Apr 2, 2018 20:06:54 GMT
I disagree. A toxic (pardon the pun) environment bleeds affects the way people feel and act. Being a constant downer on here will not help the team one iota but may affect peoples attitudes and increase the general feeling of hopelessness. However, being positive for the next 6 games, will certainly not hurt the team one iota and may affect peoples attitudes and decrease the general feeling of hopelessness. It’s not a ‘constant downer’, it’s calling it as you see it. When there’s good, talk about the good, when there’s bad, talk about the bad. That makes you appreciate the good when it comes along all the more. What you’re describing is what Comical Ali did during the last Gulf War, insisting everything was glorious while American tanks rolled into the city in the background. It doesn’t help anybody. hmm, what do you think would have happened if Comical Ali had consistently said give up now, we're all doomed, the americans are going to crush us and we will never recover?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 2, 2018 20:11:27 GMT
It’s not a ‘constant downer’, it’s calling it as you see it. When there’s good, talk about the good, when there’s bad, talk about the bad. That makes you appreciate the good when it comes along all the more. What you’re describing is what Comical Ali did during the last Gulf War, insisting everything was glorious while American tanks rolled into the city in the background. It doesn’t help anybody. hmm, what do you think would have happened if Comical Ali had consistently said give up now, we're all doomed, the americans are going to crush us and we will never recover? Fuck me, so Comical Ali had the right idea as well did he? I’ve heard it all now.
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Post by GoBoks on Apr 2, 2018 20:28:57 GMT
hmm, what do you think would have happened if Comical Ali had consistently said give up now, we're all doomed, the americans are going to crush us and we will never recover? Fuck me, so Comical Ali had the right idea as well did he? I’ve heard it all now. Again you didn't answer the question. If you were a soldier in the ranks waiting for the Americans to come storming in, what would you have preferred to hear?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 2, 2018 20:32:44 GMT
Fuck me, so Comical Ali had the right idea as well did he? I’ve heard it all now. Again you didn't answer the question. If you were a soldier in the ranks waiting for the Americans to come storming in, what would you have preferred to hear? The truth. Always the truth. That’s just me. During the war, the BBC had to fight tooth and nail to actually report the news, even when it was bad. Again, they made the point that this made the good news, when there was any, all the sweeter, and it was actually bad for morale to give false hope to people through only reporting one side. What you seem to be advocating is Lord Haw Haw stuff. Or that dreadful Robin Williams film, Jakob The Liar.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 2, 2018 20:35:54 GMT
It’s not a ‘constant downer’, it’s calling it as you see it. When there’s good, talk about the good, when there’s bad, talk about the bad. That makes you appreciate the good when it comes along all the more. What you’re describing is what Comical Ali did during the last Gulf War, insisting everything was glorious while American tanks rolled into the city in the background. It doesn’t help anybody. hmm, what do you think would have happened if Comical Ali had consistently said give up now, we're all doomed, the americans are going to crush us and we will never recover? I can't believe that you're genuinely being serious ... is this just a poor wind up?
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Post by GoBoks on Apr 2, 2018 20:39:37 GMT
Again you didn't answer the question. If you were a soldier in the ranks waiting for the Americans to come storming in, what would you have preferred to hear? The truth. Always the truth. That’s just me. During the war, the BBC had to fight tooth and nail to actually report the news, even when it was bad. Again, they made the point that this made the good news, when there was any, all the sweeter, and it was actually bad for morale to give false hope to people through only reporting one side. What you seem to be advocating is Lord Haw Haw stuff. Or that dreadful Robin Williams film, Jakob The Liar. Oh c'mon, if you want to be a negative nilly have at it. Repeating over and over that we are stuffed and relegated when any fool with even the slightest grasp of arithmetic can work out that it's not a done deal, is not telling it like it is no matter what you say.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 2, 2018 20:44:48 GMT
The truth. Always the truth. That’s just me. During the war, the BBC had to fight tooth and nail to actually report the news, even when it was bad. Again, they made the point that this made the good news, when there was any, all the sweeter, and it was actually bad for morale to give false hope to people through only reporting one side. What you seem to be advocating is Lord Haw Haw stuff. Or that dreadful Robin Williams film, Jakob The Liar. Oh c'mon, if you want to be a negative nilly have at it. Repeating over and over that we are stuffed and relegated when any fool with even the slightest grasp of arithmetic can work out that it's not a done deal, is not telling it like it is no matter what you say. I’ll be positive when there’s reason to be. I was broadly positive about the team selection and performance yesterday. We are crap and it’s hard to see a way out of it. For me it’s more useful and cathartic to look at the reasons why that is rather than pretending it’s not true.
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Post by GoBoks on Apr 2, 2018 20:55:43 GMT
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Post by GoBoks on Apr 2, 2018 20:58:51 GMT
Oh c'mon, if you want to be a negative nilly have at it. Repeating over and over that we are stuffed and relegated when any fool with even the slightest grasp of arithmetic can work out that it's not a done deal, is not telling it like it is no matter what you say. I’ll be positive when there’s reason to be. I was broadly positive about the team selection and performance yesterday. We are crap and it’s hard to see a way out of it. For me it’s more useful and cathartic to look at the reasons why that is rather than pretending it’s not true. Yes, we're crap, I freely admit it. Yes it's going to be tough, I freely admit it. But you don't seem to mind pretending that there is NO WAY we can survive. That is plainly not true.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 2, 2018 21:03:41 GMT
I’ll be positive when there’s reason to be. I was broadly positive about the team selection and performance yesterday. We are crap and it’s hard to see a way out of it. For me it’s more useful and cathartic to look at the reasons why that is rather than pretending it’s not true. Yes, we're crap, I freely admit it. Yes it's going to be tough, I freely admit it. But you don't seem to mind pretending that there is NO WAY we can survive. That is plainly not true. I’ve never said there’s no way we can survive. I just don’t think we will. It’s not impossible, just unlikely. We shouldn’t be in this mess to begin with, that’s what’s infuriating.
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