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Post by waffles on Apr 1, 2018 15:25:58 GMT
Alan Smith said it was a pen, I know for a fact he's completely unbiased when commentating on Arsenal.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 1, 2018 15:26:23 GMT
You really can't blame the ref there. I'm not sure how he's meant to see that in full speed behind two players. So don’t give what you can’t see?
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Post by robwahlmann on Apr 1, 2018 15:26:37 GMT
Arsenal had the upper hand in the game, but we certainly were in it before that ridiculous penalty given by Pawson! I also think Bellerin should have had two yellow cards and Xaka at least one, but no, sometimes I feel the refs have two standards one for the top six and another for the rest. ![>:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/3fpOQXhXVXuSM73B6hK4.gif)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2018 15:27:24 GMT
You really can't blame the ref there. I'm not sure how he's meant to see that in full speed behind two players. So don’t give what you can’t see? It looked like a blatant penalty on first viewing. Given it on that, can't blame him.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Apr 1, 2018 15:28:01 GMT
Arsenal had the upper hand in the game, but we certainly were in before that ridiculous penalty given by Pawson! I also think Bellerin should have had two yellow cards and Xaka at least one, but no, sometimes I feel the refs have two standards one for the top six and another for the rest. ![>:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/3fpOQXhXVXuSM73B6hK4.gif) Only sometimes??
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Apr 1, 2018 15:28:22 GMT
So don’t give what you can’t see? It looked like a blatant penalty on first viewing. Given it on that, can't blame him. It didnt
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 1, 2018 15:28:44 GMT
So don’t give what you can’t see? It looked like a blatant penalty on first viewing. Given it on that, can't blame him. No it didn’t.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Apr 1, 2018 15:29:05 GMT
Alan Smith said it was a pen, I know for a fact he's completely unbiased when commentating on Arsenal. Even Thierry Henry said it wasnt
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Post by robwahlmann on Apr 1, 2018 15:29:06 GMT
You really can't blame the ref there. I'm not sure how he's meant to see that in full speed behind two players. If he can't see it how can he give it? Do you think he would have given it to us in the same situation? ![:-S](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kdD1n42dnzYd3v59eUB_.gif)
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Post by safcforever on Apr 1, 2018 15:30:02 GMT
I have had enough of this shit. There has to be some sort of agenda to get rid of us. Totally outplayed the Arseholes for 70 mind. Never a penalty in a million years. Then all downhill from there. I feel like I’ll be glad for us to get out of this shit and play some proper football in the Championship The championship is shit. League 1 is where it’s at
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Post by milky on Apr 1, 2018 15:30:12 GMT
So don’t give what you can’t see? It looked like a blatant penalty on first viewing. Given it on that, can't blame him. It was quite obvious he didn't get a decent view therefore he can't second guess. He just can't!
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Post by GoBoks on Apr 1, 2018 15:30:15 GMT
Pentalies like the one Bruno stupidly gave away get given all the time. He shouldn't have put himself between the player from the position he was in. Yeah just what the fuck is a defender doing on the pitch defending and winning the ball in his own his box. You absolute fucking imbecile. C’mon, we’re all unhappy with the decision, but no need to attack each other. Onwards and upwards.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 1, 2018 15:30:15 GMT
None of the Stoke players complained much about the decision to be fair.
Although that might be cos they're resigned to losing at Arsenal and/or going down and/or looking forward to being on the beach in five weeks.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2018 15:30:50 GMT
What a classic thread this is.
1) No it wasn't a penalty but lets be honest it was the faintest of touch on the ball. You go tackling from behind in the box and you run the risk, he didn;t even need to go for it being as there was about 3 others players in a better position. Again wrong decision but why even give the ref the opportunity. Apart from that he reffed alright.
2) Weak minds meant we conceded a second with poor defending, something we have seen all season.
3) Stone wall penalty and sums up the type of tackles he has done since he's been at the club.
Were were competitive but we wouldn't have kept that tempo up for 90 mins plus we didn't look like scoring and would still be trying to create a chance if we were still playing now.
To sum up, no there isn't a conspiracy and if we go down its not due to the FA, Premier League or the refs, its due to the fact we have been a complacent, penny pinching bag of shit for the last 18 months and done very little to rectify it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2018 15:30:53 GMT
Because he's seen the contact between them, and given a pen. He hasn't seen the touch before, because it didn't look like there was one until you slow it down.
Replying to all above
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2018 15:34:03 GMT
I like how people say they can't wait to see some proper football in a league below, as if its some mystical league where refs dont make mistakes and players dont try and win penalties.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 1, 2018 15:34:41 GMT
None of the Stoke players complained much about the decision to be fair. Although that might be cos they're resigned to losing at Arsenal and/or going down and/or looking forward to being on the beach in five weeks. They surrounded Pawson questioning it and Bruno was in disbelief.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2018 15:35:03 GMT
Because he's seen the contact between them, and given a pen. He hasn't seen the touch before, because it didn't look like there was one until you slow it down. Replying to all above Banging your head against a brick wall tonight, emotions are high. Tackle from behind and you always run the risk, today we got the short straw and many other teams have had the same before and will continue to do so.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 1, 2018 15:35:23 GMT
Because he's seen the contact between them, and given a pen. He hasn't seen the touch before, because it didn't look like there was one until you slow it down. Replying to all above It looked like an absolute nothing on the first viewing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2018 15:38:28 GMT
Because he's seen the contact between them, and given a pen. He hasn't seen the touch before, because it didn't look like there was one until you slow it down. Replying to all above It looked like an absolute nothing on the first viewing. He stopped Ozil's leg from coming through. Without the touch, it's a pen. And the touch is basically invisible unless you put it in slow motion.
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Post by Parkhall Wanderer on Apr 1, 2018 15:40:23 GMT
Well after 10 seasons of referees media etc favouring the top clubs against teams like us ; if we are bowing out I’m personally looking to giving each inept incompetent clusterfuck that officiates (allegedly) both barrels of my pebble dashing shit spreader at the remaining home games as Payback for the crap they’ve dished out in decisions against us over the years. And after the Palace game Cartwright and Scholes will get the last two barrels as payback for the shit decisions and transfer policies of the last few years. Loads of veg curry and black sheep to be consumed in the days before each home game It seems🌪
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Post by stantheman on Apr 1, 2018 15:41:14 GMT
Pentalies like the one Bruno stupidly gave away get given all the time. He shouldn't have put himself between the player from the position he was in. He won the ball and got kicked by Ozil
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 1, 2018 15:41:53 GMT
It looked like an absolute nothing on the first viewing. He stopped Ozil's leg from coming through. Without the touch, it's a pen. And the touch is basically invisible unless you put it in slow motion. It wasn’t clear on first view what had happened, it looked like a tangle at best. Pawson couldn’t wait to give it. It was a well timed tackle that was incorrectly penalised and if the argument is that the ref wasn’t well placed enough to have the best possible view then he shouldn’t have given it.
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Post by sportsman on Apr 1, 2018 15:48:25 GMT
It's why the big clubs didn't want VAR abd technology in the game.
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Post by expectedtoulouse on Apr 1, 2018 15:53:38 GMT
It's why the big clubs didn't want VAR abd technology in the game. They would’ve still given it on VAR the daft twats, just like they ruled that clearly onside Man Utd goal offside in the cup. Absolute tools the lot of em.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2018 16:02:23 GMT
He stopped Ozil's leg from coming through. Without the touch, it's a pen. And the touch is basically invisible unless you put it in slow motion. It wasn’t clear on first view what had happened, it looked like a tangle at best. Pawson couldn’t wait to give it. It was a well timed tackle that was incorrectly penalised and if the argument is that the ref wasn’t well placed enough to have the best possible view then he shouldn’t have given it. I thought it was blatant that he'd blocked his leg on first glance. I only realised Indi even got near the ball on the replay. Plenty to blame refs for, but that's not one of them.
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Post by expectedtoulouse on Apr 1, 2018 16:06:29 GMT
It wasn’t clear on first view what had happened, it looked like a tangle at best. Pawson couldn’t wait to give it. It was a well timed tackle that was incorrectly penalised and if the argument is that the ref wasn’t well placed enough to have the best possible view then he shouldn’t have given it. I thought it was blatant that he'd blocked his leg on first glance. I only realised Indi even got near the ball on the replay. Plenty to blame refs for, but that's not one of them. Did you think Manés dive yesterday was a pen? By this logic we might as well give up. If the refs not to blame for giving a penalty when he won the ball clearly then I don’t know who is.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Apr 1, 2018 16:06:52 GMT
It wasn’t clear on first view what had happened, it looked like a tangle at best. Pawson couldn’t wait to give it. It was a well timed tackle that was incorrectly penalised and if the argument is that the ref wasn’t well placed enough to have the best possible view then he shouldn’t have given it. I thought it was blatant that he'd blocked his leg on first glance. I only realised Indi even got near the ball on the replay. Plenty to blame refs for, but that's not one of them. You said yourself he didn’t have a good view of it. He gave himself no time and blew up immediately. If you can’t blame a ref in those circumstances for taking a punt and getting it wrong what can he be blamed for? I fundamentally disagree it looked like one on the first viewing.
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Post by sjb on Apr 1, 2018 16:29:21 GMT
Contentious as the decision may be, you really have to quit this whining about "corruption". Believe it or not, every team, big or small, get decisions against them and you just need the maturity to recognize it. I still remember this reverse fixture clearly and Arsenal had a number of penalty claims, with Diouf's challenge on Bellerin being a stonewaller that former refs Poll and McDermott agreed were penalties in their column and Sky respectively. In a season we've been mid-table level wank, that Brittania game was probably our unluckiest loss of the season.
Seeing the replays, I would inch towards not awarding the penalty, just because it might have upset me if given against us, but it would hardly feature in any list of most scandalous decisions.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2018 16:33:31 GMT
Because he's seen the contact between them, and given a pen. He hasn't seen the touch before, because it didn't look like there was one until you slow it down. Replying to all above So hes guessed?
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