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Post by lommack on Aug 28, 2019 18:08:33 GMT
I'll say it again. If the ERG and the Irish from the 17th century had voted for it we would have left in March. This is about the power of the elite and getting what they want by by-passing parliament and getting the no deal they crave. And the irony of it all is they are saying fuck democracy. You have to understand Lommack, democracy a very moveable feast for the right wingers on this board. As my old Grandma used to say, 'they're fucking hypocrites.' I know I thought, however, they would have a modicum of self awareness after their endless yawping and stamping of feet at everyone being enemies of the people and everything being undemocratic when in fact the actual act that is undemocratic is celebrated as a victory, strange lot. I agree with your grandmother sounds like a woman of substance
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 28, 2019 18:13:05 GMT
Well I must admit to have been taken aback somewhat as the last three Remainers I've spoken to have stated that Brexit has got to go ahead for the sake of democracy. You speak to Remainers? 😜
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 28, 2019 18:13:24 GMT
I'll say it again. If the ERG and the Irish from the 17th century had voted for it we would have left in March. This is about the power of the elite and getting what they want by by-passing parliament and getting the no deal they crave. And the irony of it all is they are saying fuck democracy. You have to understand Lommack, democracy a very moveable feast for the right wingers on this board. As my old Grandma used to say, 'they're fucking hypocrites.' At least we know who taught you to swear
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 28, 2019 18:18:41 GMT
Only leaving without a deal on WTO terms will force these cunts to start working for this country. And fear of that will probably make them vote for a tweaked WA.
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Post by thevoid on Aug 28, 2019 18:49:03 GMT
Unelected PM suspends Parliament ...... I thought this only happened in dodgy South American dictatorships. What, like the opposition threatening to seize power by force you mean?
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 28, 2019 18:55:33 GMT
Chuka Umunna. I even hate his ears.
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Aug 28, 2019 19:02:54 GMT
Unelected PM suspends Parliament ...... I thought this only happened in dodgy South American dictatorships. I’ll type this slowly so you can take your time to understand a simple fact about how democracy works in this country... We don’t elect a PM. You started this thread saying there was no mandate for a hard Brexit. You can't now turn round and say the way democracy works in this country is to deliver something for which there is no mandate without implying we are closer to a dictatorship than you would care to admit.
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Post by felonious on Aug 28, 2019 19:06:26 GMT
Well I must admit to have been taken aback somewhat as the last three Remainers I've spoken to have stated that Brexit has got to go ahead for the sake of democracy. You speak to Remainers? 😜 I speak to anyone matey. They're a tetchy lot so I don't usually bring the subject up One of them actually has principles and won't join us in the Wheatsheaf
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Post by Northy on Aug 28, 2019 19:07:26 GMT
You have to understand Lommack, democracy a very moveable feast for the right wingers on this board. As my old Grandma used to say, 'they're fucking hypocrites.' I know I thought, however, they would have a modicum of self awareness after their endless yawping and stamping of feet at everyone being enemies of the people and everything being undemocratic when in fact the actual act that is undemocratic is celebrated as a victory, strange lot. I agree with your grandmother sounds like a woman of substance What's undemocratic about it, it's a legal process? I mentioned earlier on here that it was Labour who first did it and set the precedent so it's very ironic that they are calling the tories as undemocratic
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 28, 2019 19:18:14 GMT
I’ll type this slowly so you can take your time to understand a simple fact about how democracy works in this country... We don’t elect a PM. You started this thread saying there was no mandate for a hard Brexit. You can't now turn round and say the way democracy works in this country is to deliver something for which there is no mandate without implying we are closer to a dictatorship than you would care to admit. Don’t be silly.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Aug 28, 2019 19:22:27 GMT
I haven’t posted onthis thread for ages but really what did they expect? Our MPs who have again and again stood in the way of a democratically mandated instruction to leave the European Union. The we-know-better than you 'experts', the London political elite who see all those who voted for Brexit as the thick, uneducated enemy. They talk of democracy but since losing the vote on 23 June 2016 this rabble of disrespectful MPs have done nothing to honour the referendum result but have again and again sabotaged Brexit, and by extension sabotaged Britain. But it's now game over. Yippee. If the supposedly hardline leavers had voted for it back in March we'd be out by now - the notion that remsiners sabotaged it is a misrepresentation. The ERG and the creationist nutjobs across the Irish Sea did for it.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Aug 28, 2019 19:26:03 GMT
I think you might be on a sticky wicket with the hypocrisy route, the establishment have just closed off the democratic heart of the country. I wonder what those people would think who fought and died defending the freedoms and liberties of the country being threatened by a small number of elites who think they are more important than our democracy Noting that Over-65s were more than twice as likely as under-25s to have voted to Leave the European Union ( link), I rather think that those people who fought and died for this country would be quite happy with what has happened today. Also underlines it was a vote for the past rather than one for the future.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 28, 2019 19:37:34 GMT
Unelected PM suspends Parliament ...... I thought this only happened in dodgy South American dictatorships. Yeah, as an oil nation, I expect we'll follow the usual MO. Team up with a mad neo-con in the White House, invade ourselves, nick our own oil and stick a puppet democrat in 10 Downing St.
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Post by Northy on Aug 28, 2019 19:40:38 GMT
Noting that Over-65s were more than twice as likely as under-25s to have voted to Leave the European Union ( link), I rather think that those people who fought and died for this country would be quite happy with what has happened today. Also underlines it was a vote for the past rather than one for the future. Or a vote of experience over youthful brain washing from the magical unicorn money tree?
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Post by Northy on Aug 28, 2019 19:43:37 GMT
I’ll type this slowly so you can take your time to understand a simple fact about how democracy works in this country... We don’t elect a PM. You started this thread saying there was no mandate for a hard Brexit. You can't now turn round and say the way democracy works in this country is to deliver something for which there is no mandate without implying we are closer to a dictatorship than you would care to admit. 'A mandate for a hard brexit hasn't been achieved' is a different thing
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Post by thevoid on Aug 28, 2019 19:43:49 GMT
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Post by salopstick on Aug 28, 2019 19:51:58 GMT
There is a Mandate for brexit
No one can decide on how we are to leave.
In that case we have to leave under the brexit enshrined in law. WTO
It’s parliaments fault they cannot agree so WTO is default.
Sooner remainers accept that the sooner we can crack on and make it work
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 28, 2019 20:18:15 GMT
Fuck me so that's The Transport Secretary who will have to resign, The Work & Pensions Secretary and now the big one, The Chancellor.
Can't possibly stay in his post with a shred of dignity or credibility.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Aug 28, 2019 21:09:03 GMT
A Perfect Storm is brewing.
Get ready for it.
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Post by Northy on Aug 28, 2019 21:16:57 GMT
I see they've rolled out that whining cow Gina Miller
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Aug 28, 2019 21:18:19 GMT
I see they've rolled out that whining cow Gina Miller Democracy through the courts!
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Post by Northy on Aug 28, 2019 21:19:42 GMT
Parliament recent closures
2016 - 15th Sep to 10 Oct
2017 - 14th Sep to 9th Oct
2018 - 13th Sep to 9th Oct
2019 - 9th Sep to 14th Oct (possibly)
so why all the moaning and abhorent wailing from someting that has happened pretty much the same the last few years ?
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Aug 28, 2019 21:36:47 GMT
Haha Diane. It's a coup supported by the Americans.
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Post by harryburrows on Aug 28, 2019 21:38:32 GMT
Is alll bollocks anyway . Remoaners all hiding behind their self righteous indignation. Democratic outrage 😤 When they all complain about the UK leaving without a deal what they actually mean is he UK is leaving per se , if we suddenly get a great deal from the EU it will never be good enough because he jus want it stopped
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 28, 2019 21:45:32 GMT
Parliament recent closures 2016 - 15th Sep to 10 Oct 2017 - 14th Sep to 9th Oct 2018 - 13th Sep to 9th Oct 2019 - 9th Sep to 14th Oct (possibly) so why all the moaning and abhorent wailing from someting that has happened pretty much the same the last few years ? The mard arsed fcukers haven't stopped bitch crying for over 3 years because they haven't got their own way nothing new there, the difference is Boris is taking the bull by the horns and squeezing their bollocks now we now have a PM with the backbone and cabinet to make Brexit work for the majority that voted in a democratic referendum love it, next sort out immigration from outside the EU.
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Post by 4372 on Aug 28, 2019 21:47:08 GMT
I see they've rolled out that whining cow Gina Miller As has been mentioned previously, you can always tell an argument is lost when attacks are made on individuals rather than issues.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Aug 28, 2019 22:06:31 GMT
Parliament recent closures 2016 - 15th Sep to 10 Oct 2017 - 14th Sep to 9th Oct 2018 - 13th Sep to 9th Oct 2019 - 9th Sep to 14th Oct (possibly) so why all the moaning and abhorent wailing from someting that has happened pretty much the same the last few years ? The mard arsed fcukers haven't stopped bitch crying for over 3 years because they haven't got their own way nothing new there, the difference is Boris is taking the bull by the horns and squeezing their bollocks now we now have a PM with the backbone and cabinet to make Brexit work for the majority that voted in a democratic referendum love it, next sort out immigration from outside the EU. Carps, any chance of you writing to the Queen to request a meeting and representing the views of the Oatcake? ( Perhaps take Sheikhy with you)
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Aug 28, 2019 22:15:52 GMT
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Post by Eggybread on Aug 29, 2019 5:21:21 GMT
My business is not ready because we dont know what to be ready for.We try to be,but we import and export an awful lot of our goods.For the second time in six months we have had to attempt to fill our warehouse which has a severe impact on our business planning. Ours is, we are a £2billion UK company so a lot of planning on lots of different streams. Yesterday I was on a con call to Japan, and involved UK, Nordics, Germany to ensure we have all options in place. Just the Italians missing who are still on their month long shutdown, and they wonder why their economy is up the shitter. Well we are not a two billion pound company,we employ 28 people.
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Post by Eggybread on Aug 29, 2019 5:28:29 GMT
There is a map of the people who have petitioned against the proposed shutting of parliament.It shows where the people live who have voted.Does anyone have any theories why the poorest parts of the nation are the areas least represented. Of course S-O-T is right up there amongst the least votes.
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