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Post by boothenboy75 on Nov 14, 2018 18:59:13 GMT
Imagine being the sort of people who campaign and vote to leave the EU, and then get hugely pissed off when a Prime Minister tries to take the country out of the EU. What has gotten into the Eurosceptic side of the Tory party? Leaving the customs union to go into another customs union that you can't leave wasn't many peoples idea of Brexit.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 14, 2018 19:03:37 GMT
Imagine being the sort of people who campaign and vote to leave the EU, and then get hugely pissed off when a Prime Minister tries to take the country out of the EU. What has gotten into the Eurosceptic side of the Tory party? Leaving the customs union to go into another customs union that you can't leave wasn't many peoples idea of Brexit. Who knows what people's idea of Brexit was. We just know a majority of people wanted to leave the EU, and that would be fulfilled by this plan (however much I think it is a shit idea).
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 14, 2018 19:16:18 GMT
It should've been a simple cabinet discussion. "It's either this or a People's Vote. I'll let you decide ya bag of cunts."
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Post by Pedropotter on Nov 14, 2018 19:27:04 GMT
May wins cabinet support....... oooof!
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Post by boothenboy75 on Nov 14, 2018 19:28:56 GMT
May wins cabinet support....... oooof! Lets see if any have had the guts to resign.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 14, 2018 19:30:52 GMT
Honest Al Campbell on LBC calling for a second referendum. It's like a horror story unfolding.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 14, 2018 19:31:58 GMT
May wins cabinet support....... oooof! Lets see if any have had the guts to resign. Spineless government, spineless opposition. Great stuff.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Nov 14, 2018 19:34:49 GMT
DUP leader Arlene Foster will meet with Theresa May at 8.30pm.
Could prove interesting.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 14, 2018 19:52:38 GMT
DUP leader Arlene Foster will meet with Theresa May at 8.30pm.Could prove interesting. Take your Tena pants, Theresa.
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Post by sharpy on Nov 14, 2018 19:58:14 GMT
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Post by Clayton Wood on Nov 14, 2018 20:18:07 GMT
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 14, 2018 20:22:57 GMT
DUP leader Arlene Foster will meet with Theresa May at 8.30pm.Could prove interesting. Must be like a visit from a mob boss. "Give us another 2 billion or we'll burn your Brexit plans down."
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Nov 14, 2018 20:38:14 GMT
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 14, 2018 20:57:37 GMT
Even with many on the Labour benches willing to back any old bag of piss May comes up with to avoid the chance of a Corbyn led Government that's got zero chance of getting through parliament surely? I hate agreeing the Victorian ghost, Mogg or Farage on anything but thats not even a fudge. It is barely a deal at all. It's a capitulation.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 14, 2018 21:02:35 GMT
Even with many on the Labour benches willing to back any old bag of piss May comes up with to avoid the chance of a Corbyn led Government that's got zero chance of getting through parliament surely? I hate agreeing the Victorian ghost, Mogg or Farage on anything but thats not even a fudge. It is barely a deal at all. It's a capitulation. Which is the idea?
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 14, 2018 21:09:46 GMT
Even with many on the Labour benches willing to back any old bag of piss May comes up with to avoid the chance of a Corbyn led Government that's got zero chance of getting through parliament surely? I hate agreeing the Victorian ghost, Mogg or Farage on anything but thats not even a fudge. It is barely a deal at all. It's a capitulation. The backstop only comes into play if there is no other agreement though and the EU mantra is nothing is agreed until everything is agreed so unless I am missing something we can leave and if at the end of the transition or december 2020 there is no better option we can still tell them to go and get fucked.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Nov 14, 2018 21:20:15 GMT
The EU Referendum wasn't about finding a compromise with the EU..it was about leaving it.
This 'agreement' is a betrayal of all those who voted Brexit.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 14, 2018 21:26:13 GMT
The EU Referendum wasn't about finding a compromise with the EU..it was about leaving it. This 'agreement' is a betrayal of all those who voted Brexit. Did you think the whole process of leaving the EU was going to be done without any discussions or agreements?
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Post by ravey123 on Nov 14, 2018 21:37:06 GMT
The EU Referendum wasn't about finding a compromise with the EU..it was about leaving it. This 'agreement' is a betrayal of all those who voted Brexit. The whole fucking shambles has been a series of lies and wait and sees to buy as much time as possible to then leave no time so we end up with a take it or vote again scenario. This is an absolute slap in the face for the MAJORITY who voted. Democracy is dead in the UK. If this gets through I predict the lowest ever turnout at the next general election and a majority of people totallly losing any faith they had left in the "system". This government/negotiating team have totally fucked the country over. lets now see the smug media faces all over the tv for weeks. Big business and the elite rule everything- the little man/woman does not matter - we are just the plebs that make their money and need to be kept in our place - how on earth can we understand such a complicated issue - tell you what, lets go the whole hog - we don't understand politics so just let the politicians decide who rules - no need for national voting. If this goes through how long before we have the Euro, no law making capabilities, a European Army led by Germany and even more pointless "democracy". What happened to Brexit means Brexit
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 14, 2018 22:02:19 GMT
The EU Referendum wasn't about finding a compromise with the EU..it was about leaving it. This 'agreement' is a betrayal of all those who voted Brexit. The whole fucking shambles has been a series of lies and wait and sees to buy as much time as possible to then leave no time so we end up with a take it or vote again scenario. This is an absolute slap in the face for the MAJORITY who voted. Democracy is dead in the UK. If this gets through I predict the lowest ever turnout at the next general election and a majority of people totallly losing any faith they had left in the "system". This government/negotiating team have totally fucked the country over. lets now see the smug media faces all over the tv for weeks. Big business and the elite rule everything- the little man/woman does not matter - we are just the plebs that make their money and need to be kept in our place - how on earth can we understand such a complicated issue - tell you what, lets go the whole hog - we don't understand politics so just let the politicians decide who rules - no need for national voting. If this goes through how long before we have the Euro, no law making capabilities, a European Army led by Germany and even more pointless "democracy". What happened to Brexit means Brexit Spot on.
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 14, 2018 22:29:22 GMT
I cannot believe leave voters are unhappy. This is what you voted for!
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 14, 2018 22:32:13 GMT
The EU Referendum wasn't about finding a compromise with the EU..it was about leaving it. This 'agreement' is a betrayal of all those who voted Brexit. The whole fucking shambles has been a series of lies and wait and sees to buy as much time as possible to then leave no time so we end up with a take it or vote again scenario. This is an absolute slap in the face for the MAJORITY who voted. Democracy is dead in the UK. If this gets through I predict the lowest ever turnout at the next general election and a majority of people totallly losing any faith they had left in the "system". This government/negotiating team have totally fucked the country over. lets now see the smug media faces all over the tv for weeks. Big business and the elite rule everything- the little man/woman does not matter - we are just the plebs that make their money and need to be kept in our place - how on earth can we understand such a complicated issue - tell you what, lets go the whole hog - we don't understand politics so just let the politicians decide who rules - no need for national voting. If this goes through how long before we have the Euro, no law making capabilities, a European Army led by Germany and even more pointless "democracy". What happened to Brexit means Brexit It went south after the General Election when May lost her majority (and her authority). A soft Brexit was inevitable. Blame the electorate.
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Post by 4372 on Nov 14, 2018 22:49:21 GMT
There has been a lot of moaning on here for a few days now, and none of it coming from the Remain side. Some of you need a session on the fun bus.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 14, 2018 22:56:05 GMT
There has been a lot of moaning on here for a few days now, and none of it coming from the Remain side. Some of you need a session on the fun bus. It is quite bizarre isn't it. If you'd told me two years ago that by the end of 2018 many Leave voters (on here at least) would be moaning their bag off despite the fact we're just months away from leaving the EU, then I'd be very confused. But here we are.
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Post by stokemark on Nov 14, 2018 23:00:21 GMT
The EU Referendum wasn't about finding a compromise with the EU..it was about leaving it. This 'agreement' is a betrayal of all those who voted Brexit. The whole fucking shambles has been a series of lies and wait and sees to buy as much time as possible to then leave no time so we end up with a take it or vote again scenario. This is an absolute slap in the face for the MAJORITY who voted. Democracy is dead in the UK. If this gets through I predict the lowest ever turnout at the next general election and a majority of people totallly losing any faith they had left in the "system". This government/negotiating team have totally fucked the country over. lets now see the smug media faces all over the tv for weeks. Big business and the elite rule everything- the little man/woman does not matter - we are just the plebs that make their money and need to be kept in our place - how on earth can we understand such a complicated issue - tell you what, lets go the whole hog - we don't understand politics so just let the politicians decide who rules - no need for national voting. If this goes through how long before we have the Euro, no law making capabilities, a European Army led by Germany and even more pointless "democracy". What happened to Brexit means Brexit When Cameron agreed to a referendum he did so expecting to utilise the result (remain) to quell the right wing loons in the party who want to turn the UK into a low tax, no rules, 'survival of the fittest' economy - do you really think Rees-Mogg, Bo-Jo, Arron Banks et al give a fuck about the 'little man,' ? His gamble failed in spectacular fashion and people believed that change was afoot. Of course that was all lies (£350m to NHS, free trade deals, have your cake and eat it etc) - that could not happen as put simply Britain has lost its manufacturing industry and is a service economy that is reliant on trading with the EU - what industry we do have is predominantly foreign owned and we saw in the immediate aftermath of Brexit Toyota shit themselves then clearly get a sly 'don't worry we will see you alight' pat on the head. The Government of this country is, was and will be beholden to big (often foreign owned) business and has to be as without it the exchequer has no choice but to envoke the worst sort of austerity that will effect the people at the bottom end of the food chain more than anyone else. Fact is it was all a pack of lies and deceit from both sides - we simoly cannot afford to just 'leave', certainly not in one fell swoop and 'remaining' was always the preferred option of big business and government itself. We have all been duped and the whole shit show has and will cost us (and will cost us) huge sums of money but even worse it has divided us as a nation. Winners in all this ? Well politicians on all sides will never go hungry, need to sleep in a tent outside a closed down bank and feel that their place in society is worthless will they.
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 14, 2018 23:19:48 GMT
The EU Referendum wasn't about finding a compromise with the EU..it was about leaving it. This 'agreement' is a betrayal of all those who voted Brexit. Did you think the whole process of leaving the EU was going to be done without any discussions or agreements? Seems like people this leaving the EU is like closing your Post Office account
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 14, 2018 23:36:25 GMT
Various people have picked up on the PM saying the choice was between this deal, no deal and no Brexit at all, arguing that it's the first time she has mentioned the latter as a possibility
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 14, 2018 23:40:24 GMT
Did you think the whole process of leaving the EU was going to be done without any discussions or agreements? Seems like people this leaving the EU is like closing your Post Office account Even for that I imagine you'd have to fill in some paperwork. I reckon the likes of Rees-Mogg and Johnson shut their Post Office account by walking in, telling the lady behind the counter to fuck off and they can swivel for the money owed on the overdraft. LI'm joking of course - they'd both get their nanny to do it for them.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 14, 2018 23:41:24 GMT
Various people have picked up on the PM saying the choice was between this deal, no deal and no Brexit at all, arguing that it's the first time she has mentioned the latter as a possibility And that is what is going to happen. I have said so from day one.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Nov 14, 2018 23:58:31 GMT
I see the gloating has begun. Think about the cause of your happiness. You have seen a democratic decision overturned by our government.
I hope you feel really proud. I know Tony Benn, who the Opposition Leader backed, wouldn't have.
Mind you, that leader is a fucking coward, who has abandoned principles for power. This is a terrible day for democracy and people who exercised it.
Just think who you are celebrating with. Blair, Osborne, Campbell, Merkel.
Fill your fucking boots.
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