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Post by 4372 on Nov 15, 2018 0:23:01 GMT
You forget. The UK is leaving the EU next March. Democracy in Action.
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Post by Gods on Nov 15, 2018 0:49:05 GMT
Terrible deal vs no deal Brexit.
It's bizarre that the govt is so committed to sticking with the results of a referendum conducted with little or no or distorted information, that resulted in a tiny majority.
A second referendum based on the *actual* results of what Brexit would entail would seem to make much more sense.
You can call in 'democracy in action' if you like.
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Post by sharpy on Nov 15, 2018 2:44:54 GMT
I cannot believe leave voters are unhappy. This is what you voted for! Finished Red dead Redemption 2 already ?
Thought as a Lawyer you may have been analysing over the draft agreement, and instead of taking cheap shots at those who have different opinions to yourself understand where we are as a nation in this so called Brexit divorce deal.
But then again...You`ve always been true to your position of the kid with the fastest foot spinning the merry go round.
360, you`re boring.
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Post by boothenboy75 on Nov 15, 2018 7:17:17 GMT
Terrible deal vs no deal Brexit. It's bizarre that the govt is so committed to sticking with the results of a referendum conducted with little or no or distorted information, that resulted in a tiny majority. A second referendum based on the *actual* results of what Brexit would entail would seem to make much more sense. You can call in 'democracy in action' if you like. Lets pretend that this is a sensible idea, and if a further referendum were had to get the right result, it resulted in a 52-48 vote to remain. What happens then, do we have a best of 3? No, we were told this was a once in a generation vote, and if we look at history theres not another one due for forty odd years. All of this was predicted in the leaflet that the government spent millions of pounds posting through everyones letterbox. Anyone who didn't understand what they were voting for us a fecking idiot, and the people who say this are generally remoaners who want another referendum. |
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Post by boothenboy75 on Nov 15, 2018 7:22:52 GMT
Seems like people this leaving the EU is like closing your Post Office account Even for that I imagine you'd have to fill in some paperwork. I reckon the likes of Rees-Mogg and Johnson shut their Post Office account by walking in, telling the lady behind the counter to fuck off and they can swivel for the money owed on the overdraft. LI'm joking of course - they'd both get their nanny to do it for them. I think most of us thought there'd be a bit of paperwork involved, I doubt many thought that when we'd left we'd have to enter a new union (because thats what it is), of which we'd have no way of leaving, where we'd hand over new powers to the EU (including on tax) and we'd go from little influence to absolutely none. Even those who voted remain must see that this is perhaps the worst "deal" ever negotiated. May of us predicted that the only problem with Brexit would be the idiot politicians trusted to deliver it, which they never will. As leaving a club, but then just calling the club a new name, in my eyes really means you never left. |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 15, 2018 7:40:41 GMT
Even for that I imagine you'd have to fill in some paperwork. I reckon the likes of Rees-Mogg and Johnson shut their Post Office account by walking in, telling the lady behind the counter to fuck off and they can swivel for the money owed on the overdraft. LI'm joking of course - they'd both get their nanny to do it for them. I think most of us thought there'd be a bit of paperwork involved, I doubt many thought that when we'd left we'd have to enter a new union (because thats what it is), of which we'd have no way of leaving, where we'd hand over new powers to the EU (including on tax) and we'd go from little influence to absolutely none. Even those who voted remain must see that this is perhaps the worst "deal" ever negotiated. May of us predicted that the only problem with Brexit would be the idiot politicians trusted to deliver it, which they never will. As leaving a club, but then just calling the club a new name, in my eyes really means you never left. I agree it's a terrible deal. Being part of a customs union and having less say was always a risk of leaving, and one pointed out by many remain voters (admittedly not me) at the time. For this transition period at least, it appears that's going to be the case (if this deal gets passed, which seems unlikely). Many prominent Leave campaigners were very clear in telling us that we would have to put up with some dark days before the sunny days of sovereignty, freedom and all the rest - was it 50 years that Rees-Mogg said? I don't see why those same people now appear to be the ones shitting their pants when the terms of the dark days are becoming clear. |
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 15, 2018 7:53:23 GMT
I cannot believe leave voters are unhappy. This is what you voted for! Not quite I voted to screw the smug European bastards into the dirt |
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Post by bathstoke on Nov 15, 2018 8:01:29 GMT
The EU Referendum wasn't about finding a compromise with the EU..it was about leaving it. This 'agreement' is a betrayal of all those who voted Brexit. The whole fucking shambles has been a series of lies The lies have been going on for nigh on 40yrs & some have swallowed the lot, deap throated bu&&ers |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Nov 15, 2018 8:12:51 GMT
A well worded letter from the Northern Ireland minister
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 15, 2018 8:36:17 GMT
A well worded letter from the Northern Ireland minister Ouch! The first of how many. And then what? |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Nov 15, 2018 8:41:44 GMT
A well worded letter from the Northern Ireland minister Ouch! The first of how many. And then what? Partick Anything. I think that we are in a rare Political moment when predictions become true in hindsight. Leadership challenge....May wins or loses..( short term) Defeat in Commons..... Resignation.. Leadership change but....call for a general election.....the Mess continues Extend Article 50......so what, no end in sight. Call for a third Referendum..,..what is the question......If Leave is on the ballot, Leave could win...... Who knows. |
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 15, 2018 8:47:37 GMT
I cannot believe leave voters are unhappy. This is what you voted for! Finished Red dead Redemption 2 already ?
Thought as a Lawyer you may have been analysing over the draft agreement, and instead of taking cheap shots at those who have different opinions to yourself understand where we are as a nation in this so called Brexit divorce deal. But then again...You`ve always been true to your position of the kid with the fastest foot spinning the merry go round.
360, you`re boring.
So boring you spend time replying. You cannot vote blindly for something and then complain about what the outcome is! |
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 15, 2018 8:49:37 GMT
I cannot believe leave voters are unhappy. This is what you voted for! Not quite I voted to screw the smug European bastards into the dirt That wasn’t on my ballot paper. You voted blindly and put total faith in our politicians by doing so. Now some leave voters are complaining about the outcome! What did you expect!? Surely all leave voters who are upset should be chomping at the bit for a second vote with specific options they can vote for. |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 15, 2018 8:58:02 GMT
I'm struggling to see an acceptable conclusion to this without a referendum to gauge some sort of public opinion on how we leave the EU. First a vote on May's deal, and if it's rejected then a vote on a soft or hard Brexit. With no 'Remain' being on the ballot paper it shouldn't be that unappealing to most leave voters, and would not see a re-run of the original referendum. The extreme version of that would be the two options being 'No deal Brexit' or 'Remain', but I personally wouldn't be in favour of that.
The big spanner in the works is that we're now short of time, mainly because the spanners in the government have wasted the last two-and-a-half years pushing ahead with an idea that seems to please no-one.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Nov 15, 2018 9:01:22 GMT
Raab resigns. Here we go.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 9:03:33 GMT
The lying, deceiving bitch has probably just handed over, what little powers the country has, to the Labour bullshitted and that buffoon Corbyn
It's ironic that the eu despises democratic voting
Because they are on the brink of taking the reigns of a country where the population won't bother voting ever again
RIP United Kingdom
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Nov 15, 2018 9:11:11 GMT
Raab resigns. Here we go. Raab's letter |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 15, 2018 9:20:49 GMT
Raab resigns. Here we go. Raab's letter Even May the cockroach (and I say that with a grudging respect of her survival instincts) can't survive now, surely? |
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 15, 2018 9:21:23 GMT
The lying, deceiving bitch has probably just handed over, what little powers the country has, to the Labour bullshitted and that buffoon Corbyn It's ironic that the eu despises democratic voting Because they are on the brink of taking the reigns of a country where the population won't bother voting ever again RIP United Kingdom & this is exactly why I decided I could not bring myself to vote in the most idiotic self-destructive, self-indulgent referendum of political history. |
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Post by Northy on Nov 15, 2018 9:25:08 GMT
The lying, deceiving bitch has probably just handed over, what little powers the country has, to the Labour bullshitted and that buffoon Corbyn It's ironic that the eu despises democratic voting Because they are on the brink of taking the reigns of a country where the population won't bother voting ever again RIP United Kingdom I have the feeling to be violent, i want to go out and stab some back stabbing politician remaining fooker in the throat then hang them off a lampost with a 'for treason' sign around the neck. Is that normal? |
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 15, 2018 9:27:59 GMT
The lying, deceiving bitch has probably just handed over, what little powers the country has, to the Labour bullshitted and that buffoon Corbyn It's ironic that the eu despises democratic voting Because they are on the brink of taking the reigns of a country where the population won't bother voting ever again RIP United Kingdom I have the feeling to be violent, i want to go out and stab some back stabbing politician remaining fooker in the throat then hang them off a lampost with a 'for treason' sign around the neck. Is that normal? that is seriously not normal. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 9:29:00 GMT
The lying, deceiving bitch has probably just handed over, what little powers the country has, to the Labour bullshitted and that buffoon Corbyn It's ironic that the eu despises democratic voting Because they are on the brink of taking the reigns of a country where the population won't bother voting ever again RIP United Kingdom & this is exactly why I decided I could not bring myself to vote in the most idiotic self-destructive, self-indulgent referendum of political history. You're entitled to your view and none vote |
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Post by maxplonk on Nov 15, 2018 9:29:24 GMT
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Post by Northy on Nov 15, 2018 9:31:25 GMT
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 15, 2018 9:31:42 GMT
& this is exactly why I decided I could not bring myself to vote in the most idiotic self-destructive, self-indulgent referendum of political history. You're entitled to your view and none vote I didn't vote because I didn't know what I was voting for and that seems to be very obviously the case now. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 9:33:47 GMT
The lying, deceiving bitch has probably just handed over, what little powers the country has, to the Labour bullshitted and that buffoon Corbyn It's ironic that the eu despises democratic voting Because they are on the brink of taking the reigns of a country where the population won't bother voting ever again RIP United Kingdom I have the feeling to be violent, i want to go out and stab some back stabbing politician remaining fooker in the throat then hang them off a lampost with a 'for treason' sign around the neck. Is that normal? I'd say no it's not normal 🤣🤣 You should just do as they say.....BEND over and take it like a nodding dog |
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Post by Gods on Nov 15, 2018 9:36:59 GMT
Terrible deal vs no deal Brexit. It's bizarre that the govt is so committed to sticking with the results of a referendum conducted with little or no or distorted information, that resulted in a tiny majority. A second referendum based on the *actual* results of what Brexit would entail would seem to make much more sense. You can call in 'democracy in action' if you like. Lets pretend that this is a sensible idea, and if a further referendum were had to get the right result, it resulted in a 52-48 vote to remain. What happens then, do we have a best of 3? No, we were told this was a once in a generation vote, and if we look at history theres not another one due for forty odd years. All of this was predicted in the leaflet that the government spent millions of pounds posting through everyones letterbox. Anyone who didn't understand what they were voting for us a fecking idiot, and the people who say this are generally remoaners who want another referendum. Well candidly they are. That's exactly why we have a system of elected representation in this country which has served us for centuries. All those blustering Brexit fools who told the British public that the EU needed us more than we needed them, and the deal would be the easiest in history and we'd get our money back. Then there's all those naive business leaders and hedge fund managers who thought the dispossessed of our industrial towns were voting with them for Britain to become a Singapore in the North Sea. We're losing power, influence and control. A bridge to nowhere. We're walking off a cliff in March  |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Nov 15, 2018 9:37:33 GMT
Corbyn: Right we're in full election mode. Kier pass me our Brexit policy.
Starmer: What policy?
Corbyn: We must have something?
Starmer: No, we all agreed to snipe at May, that's it.
Corbyn: Oh yeah, knock something up for me by 10.30 for PMQ's then.
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 15, 2018 9:38:10 GMT
The lying, deceiving bitch has probably just handed over, what little powers the country has, to the Labour bullshitted and that buffoon Corbyn It's ironic that the eu despises democratic voting Because they are on the brink of taking the reigns of a country where the population won't bother voting ever again RIP United Kingdom I have the feeling to be violent, i want to go out and stab some back stabbing politician remaining fooker in the throat then hang them off a lampost with a 'for treason' sign around the neck. Is that normal? I can refer to an anger management therapist if you would like? My clients say she is very good. But with a blind vote, leave voters put their total faith in politicians to produce a deal of sorts and the deal they have come up with is not what leave voters perhaps thought they were voting for. Leave voters had to have known this was very likely when they went to the ballot box though, so I don’t see how there can be complaints now. After all, the fact remains that all leave voters voted for was to leave the EU. At the moment, the PM is doing precisely that as we will cease to be a member on 30 March 2019. There has to be another vote because i get the impression that the majority of the country does not want this deal, whether you voted leave or remain. What an awful mess. |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Nov 15, 2018 9:40:22 GMT
I have the feeling to be violent, i want to go out and stab some back stabbing politician remaining fooker in the throat then hang them off a lampost with a 'for treason' sign around the neck. Is that normal? I can refer to an anger management therapist if you would like? My clients say she is very good. But with a blind vote, leave voters put their total faith in politicians to produce a deal of sorts and the deal they have come up with is not what leave voters perhaps thought they were voting for. Leave voters had to have known this was very likely when they went to the ballot box though, so I don’t see how there can be complaints now. After all, the fact remains that all leave voters voted for was to leave the EU. At the moment, the PM is doing precisely that as we will cease to be a member on 30 March 2019. There has to be another vote because i get the impression that the majority of the country does not want this deal, whether you voted leave or remain. What an awful mess. Signed up for the EU Army yet? Or you waiting to be conscripted? |
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