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Post by juiceandbits on Apr 23, 2017 9:00:35 GMT
The two headers today were piss poor , he shouldn't play again this season . He is way off the pace required .
Berahino has always been 'piss poor' in the air, we knew this when we signed him.
He has to play in every game left this season as we (at least) start to attempt to play to his strengths, if he we don't, then we might as well give up on him (and the manager as well).
He may not be great at heading but he should have scored that second chance. It was so, so easy. That said, I agree we're not playing to his strengths. I don't think I've actually seen a through ball played into him as he's running. That's how he'll score. |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Apr 23, 2017 9:03:31 GMT
He's bad when he doesn't get chances and now he's getting chances, he's bad. Some may see that the fact he is getting chances an improvement in his fitness.
As others have said the team is a shambles generally and something has to change.
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 23, 2017 9:08:00 GMT
Berahino has always been 'piss poor' in the air, we knew this when we signed him.
He has to play in every game left this season as we (at least) start to attempt to play to his strengths, if he we don't, then we might as well give up on him (and the manager as well).
He may not be great at heading but he should have scored that second chance. It was so, so easy. That said, I agree we're not playing to his strengths. I don't think I've actually seen a through ball played into him as he's running. That's how he'll score. As he's running !!!!!! that's stretching it a bit maybe jogging. |
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Post by barcaontrent on Apr 23, 2017 9:24:31 GMT
Looks like a competition winner playing upfront for us
And that's saying something considering how shit everyone around is
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Apr 23, 2017 9:29:09 GMT
that he might actually be crap. He looks really awful and I can't see one of our on the beach pre seasons doing much to pep him up. I don't like having a go at players but I am really worried. Am I wrong to be? No shit Sherlock. He was always a gamble and at £15 m a gamble that's starting to stink the place out. |
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Post by ethers26 on Apr 23, 2017 9:49:11 GMT
The attitude of Hughes on this is frustrating. "We're not expecting anything from Berahino til next season to be perfectly honest."
"We always start slow in the premier league to be perfectly honest."
"That'll come (I.e. Finishing or luck) to be perfectly honest."
WHY? Why don't you f'ing try doing something about it instead of waiting for it to happen. Correct those 3 things alone and you're winning considerably more points.
Imagine Fergie with that attitude.
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Post by Fred Merger on Apr 23, 2017 9:50:08 GMT
I thought that Berahino might have taken the penalty yesterday. I think that would have given him the confidence that he is lacking at the moment. I think he would have done a better job than Arnautovic. That was a shocking penalty If anyone should have taken that pen it was shaq,as he earned it! |
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Apr 23, 2017 10:22:42 GMT
He's coming closer and closer to scoring. Have to take into account the problems he had at West Brom and now coming into a Stoke side where we create fuck all. He missed two sitters today take those rose tinted specs. off, he's been here the best part of four months and scored the square rate of fuck all created the square root of fuck all not like he has moved here from abroad like Gabbadini is it ? He started off being invisible, now he's getting chances, even scoring despite being offside. He's making progress and is due a goal soon. |
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Post by somersetstokie on Apr 23, 2017 10:23:29 GMT
I wasn't at the match but listening in to BBC Radio 5live commentary, and even the reporters on there were slamming Berahino and saying he was woeful.
As far as I am aware our two big Striker signing hopes of the season, Bony and Berahino have scored two goals between them!.
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Post by muglump on Apr 23, 2017 10:48:03 GMT
I had the same feeling about; David Gregory Paul Cook Tony Ellis Simon Stainrod Paul Stewart John Tudor Kyle Lightbourne Martin Carruthers David Herd Dave Bamber Simon Stainrod was world class |
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Post by somersetstokie on Apr 23, 2017 10:53:59 GMT
Once saw David Herd score two goals in one match at the Vic against Sunderland.
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Post by brinsleymaclagan on Apr 23, 2017 11:03:48 GMT
Why is everyone on here waiting for, or even willing Berahino to fail?!
I just don't understand some "fans"
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Post by butlerstreet on Apr 23, 2017 11:48:10 GMT
Why is everyone on here waiting for, or even willing Berahino to fail?! I just don't understand some "fans" Not sure people are waiting for him to fail, mate. Personally I'm getting very frustrated with this 'give him time', 'don't expect anything this season' message from the management. If its a fitness issue, that's a fucking disgrace. He's had nothing BUT keep himself fit for the best part of two years. He looks a stone overweight to me. If its match SHARPNESS, I can understand that more. However, when a contract is for say three seasons, and a players earning upwards of £50k a week, is it OK for him to spend 20-25% of his contract 'getting up to speed'? If he genuinely needs that time, why the fuck did we sign him? |
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Post by muglump on Apr 23, 2017 11:54:42 GMT
Why is everyone on here waiting for, or even willing Berahino to fail?! I just don't understand some "fans" Personally i hope he turns out to be a 30 goal a season man. It isn't unreasonable, however, to want to see someone who is a highly paid professional not be so shit doing something we'd all do for free. Hopefully he'll prove me wrong, but remember he is supposed to be the elite and he looks Sunday League atm |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2017 11:57:28 GMT
I think Mark Hughes future (At Stoke) now rides on whether this player comes good - or not
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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 23, 2017 12:01:20 GMT
Berahino has always been 'piss poor' in the air, we knew this when we signed him.
He has to play in every game left this season as we (at least) start to attempt to play to his strengths, if he we don't, then we might as well give up on him (and the manager as well).
He may not be great at heading but he should have scored that second chance. It was so, so easy. That said, I agree we're not playing to his strengths. I don't think I've actually seen a through ball played into him as he's running. That's how he'll score. People said that about Diouf, too. What's wrong with our players that they can't supply our strikers with the service that suits them? |
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Post by muglump on Apr 23, 2017 12:03:20 GMT
I think Mark Hughes future (At Stoke) now rides on whether this player comes good - or not Much as I hate all this negativity I think you're right. I can't see the bosses letting him piss money up the wall as he has on Imbula, Bony etc. without getting pissed off. Also each position in the table higher gets more prize money at the end of the season and we gave up some time ago |
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Post by Fegg 'Ayes Observer on Apr 23, 2017 12:42:29 GMT
The other possibility with Berahino is dressing room discontent.
Seem to remember at WBA he had a "I'm it your shit" attitude that resulted in a punch up with James Morrison and later with McCauley.
If he's spouting like that he's hardly going to endear himself to his team mates. As he gets little service on the pitch and the team dislike of his attitude, could it be the reason not to include him and avoid giving him that service.
He was trouble with a capital T at WBA and I fear it might end up the same with us. Think we've signed a crap bad 'un with Saido.
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Post by roostershair on Apr 23, 2017 12:56:25 GMT
Diouf tries his heart out. Put him in against the bubbles! He won't be any worse
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2017 13:04:17 GMT
He's not a lone striker, the rest of the squad aren't suited to a 4-4-2 All in all he's a 10 on the Mark Hughes scale of "we'll squeeze him in somewhere" signings By far and away his best game was vs Hull, which is also the only game he's played as a lone striker. |
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Post by rondogmcmuffin on Apr 23, 2017 13:08:44 GMT
The other possibility with Berahino is dressing room discontent. Seem to remember at WBA he had a "I'm it your shit" attitude that resulted in a punch up with James Morrison and later with McCauley. If he's spouting like that he's hardly going to endear himself to his team mates. As he gets little service on the pitch and the team dislike of his attitude, could it be the reason not to include him and avoid giving him that service. He was trouble with a capital T at WBA and I fear it might end up the same with us. Think we've signed a crap bad 'un with Saido. That escalated very quickly |
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Post by djduncanjames on Apr 23, 2017 13:14:07 GMT
Weren't all those fight rumours debunked?
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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 23, 2017 13:46:58 GMT
Berahino has always been 'piss poor' in the air, we knew this when we signed him.
He has to play in every game left this season as we (at least) start to attempt to play to his strengths, if he we don't, then we might as well give up on him (and the manager as well).
He may not be great at heading but he should have scored that second chance. It was so, so easy. That said, I agree we're not playing to his strengths. I don't think I've actually seen a through ball played into him as he's running. That's how he'll score. I can't do linky things, but a lad called Nils Peterson has just scored a cracker for Freiburg from exactly the kind of through ball you describe(watching it on BT Sport). |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2017 13:56:13 GMT
He may not be great at heading but he should have scored that second chance. It was so, so easy. That said, I agree we're not playing to his strengths. I don't think I've actually seen a through ball played into him as he's running. That's how he'll score. I can't do linky things, but a lad called Nils Peterson has just scored a cracker for Freiburg from exactly the kind of through ball you describe(watching it on BT Sport). I like the lad Grifo for Freiburg. Very good No. 10 type. Only 24. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2017 14:18:52 GMT
that he might actually be crap. He looks really awful and I can't see one of our on the beach pre seasons doing much to pep him up. I don't like having a go at players but I am really worried. Am I wrong to be? You have this feeling because you are a typical stoke fan  |
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Post by Fegg 'Ayes Observer on Apr 23, 2017 15:12:32 GMT
Question is, with the benefit of hindsight, and what we've seen so far, and given his toxic history, should we have gambled and bought a drug taking, troublemaker????
Up to £15m is a lot of money to gamble.
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Post by muglump on Apr 23, 2017 17:33:05 GMT
that he might actually be crap. He looks really awful and I can't see one of our on the beach pre seasons doing much to pep him up. I don't like having a go at players but I am really worried. Am I wrong to be? You have this feeling because you are a typical stoke fan Nah not miserable enough |
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Post by numpty40 on Apr 23, 2017 17:47:28 GMT
It's hard not to sympathise with Berahino, despite what many say he's working hard but chances are that few and far between that when they do come he's snatching at them.
I've been a bit slower in losing faith in Hughes than most but when he deployed Berahino in a number 10 role behind Crouch half way through the first half was the moment that lucidity hit me square between the eyes.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2017 18:27:51 GMT
If you look at a lot of Berahino goals a WBA he's latching on to through balls and running at goal with pace. One maybe two touches then he slots them away. We just don't deliver the balls he loves to get on the end of.
I don't blame Berahino but I wonder why the manager keeps buying players then asking them to do a different job ? Hughes obviously watched him and saw how effective he was so once we bought him and got him fit why not then play to his strengths and provide the service he needs ?
Makes no sense to me, much like the rest of this season...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2017 18:35:15 GMT
I think Mark Hughes future (At Stoke) now rides on whether this player comes good - or not Given the difficulties that every forward (with the exception briefly of Odemwingie) has had in being given the right sort of service and finding the net, it might be argued that Berahino's career now rides on Hughes being replaced. |
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