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Post by wannabee on Mar 26, 2023 23:58:37 GMT
It's ironic this bunch of Wacko's ended up in Waco. It didn't end well for the last bunch of crazies the Branch Davidians who ended up there.
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Post by wapiti on Mar 27, 2023 0:20:03 GMT
74 million people voted for him in 2020. I think you needed to look harder. I can’t stand him. However, there is a big portion of the country that loves him (25-30% of the Republican base) and the remainder that would rather him than a Democrat. If they vote for him, he is “their President” even if they don’t actually like the scum bag. Completely agree with every word you say which is almost exactly word for word what I say to my wife when she goes off on a rant about Trump Its astonishing to me this scumbag get the support he does, but I respect their right to choose I understand that concept but don't subscribe to it. The Trump crowd has zero respect for anything other than their own cultish hysteria.......they don't get their way, they go into immediate Tantrum Mode. Just like Nazis, they need the boot on their throat. There is no other way. |
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Post by wannabee on Mar 27, 2023 1:08:37 GMT
Completely agree with every word you say which is almost exactly word for word what I say to my wife when she goes off on a rant about Trump Its astonishing to me this scumbag get the support he does, but I respect their right to choose I understand that concept but don't subscribe to it. The Trump crowd has zero respect for anything other than their own cultish hysteria.......they don't get their way, they go into immediate Tantrum Mode. Just like Nazis, they need the boot on their throat. There is no other way. I agree the Trump Cu nlts do not respect the norms of Law and Order, but if others imitate their tactics, they win regardless. |
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Post by wapiti on Mar 27, 2023 3:31:56 GMT
I understand that concept but don't subscribe to it. The Trump crowd has zero respect for anything other than their own cultish hysteria.......they don't get their way, they go into immediate Tantrum Mode. Just like Nazis, they need the boot on their throat. There is no other way. I agree the Trump Cu nlts do not respect the norms of Law and Order, but if others imitate their tactics, they win regardless. Trumpers are 30-40% of the American voting public. They hate more moderate, sober and sane members of their own political party (Republicans) whom they call RINOs (Republicans In Name Only)......so they reject their own party's ideals and history in favor of fascist racist beliefs. You saw their intent on January 6th. The other side (Democrats) aren't going to descend into this level of delusional lunacy. They are no more redeemable than the hard corps Nazis of the 1930s and '40s. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 27, 2023 6:56:24 GMT
Essentially the Republican Party is a terrorist organisation.
The Democrats have been extremely fair with them and it won’t work. They need calling out for what they are.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2023 11:05:57 GMT
Essentially the Republican Party is a terrorist organisation. The Democrats have been extremely fair with them and it won’t work. They need calling out for what they are. That’s a ridiculous statement. There are many in the Republican Party who sit center-right. There are tens of millions of Americans who vote Republican who aren’t terrorists. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2023 11:11:48 GMT
I agree the Trump Cu nlts do not respect the norms of Law and Order, but if others imitate their tactics, they win regardless. Trumpers are 30-40% of the American voting public. They hate more moderate, sober and sane members of their own political party (Republicans) whom they call RINOs (Republicans In Name Only)......so they reject their own party's ideals and history in favor of fascist racist beliefs. You saw their intent on January 6th. The other side (Democrats) aren't going to descend into this level of delusional lunacy. They are no more redeemable than the hard corps Nazis of the 1930s and '40s. Portland was a good, recent example that idiots exist on both sides. Ardent Trump supporters are about about 20-30% of the Republican Party, not the overall American voting public. This can be seen by the success rates of his nominations. I believe that NPR did several pieces on this over the Midterms. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 27, 2023 11:48:11 GMT
Essentially the Republican Party is a terrorist organisation. The Democrats have been extremely fair with them and it won’t work. They need calling out for what they are. That’s a ridiculous statement. There are many in the Republican Party who sit center-right. There are tens of millions of Americans who vote Republican who aren’t terrorists. It’s not a ridiculous statement at all. The party is now fundamentally anti American. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2023 12:06:45 GMT
That’s a ridiculous statement. There are many in the Republican Party who sit center-right. There are tens of millions of Americans who vote Republican who aren’t terrorists. It’s not a ridiculous statement at all. The party is now fundamentally anti American. Just inflammatory nonsense. |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Mar 27, 2023 12:19:57 GMT
That’s a ridiculous statement. There are many in the Republican Party who sit center-right. There are tens of millions of Americans who vote Republican who aren’t terrorists. It’s not a ridiculous statement at all. The party is now fundamentally anti American.  |
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Post by wannabee on Mar 27, 2023 12:39:16 GMT
That’s a ridiculous statement. There are many in the Republican Party who sit center-right. There are tens of millions of Americans who vote Republican who aren’t terrorists. It’s not a ridiculous statement at all. The party is now fundamentally anti American. I love the Smell of Hyperbole in the Morning |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 27, 2023 15:24:46 GMT
It’s not a ridiculous statement at all. The party is now fundamentally anti American. Just inflammatory nonsense. What’s inflammatory is what happened on the 6th Jan which was an attack on America. |
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Post by thevoid on Mar 27, 2023 15:25:27 GMT
Essentially the Republican Party is a terrorist organisation. The Democrats have been extremely fair with them and it won’t work. They need calling out for what they are. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 PS 😂 |
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Post by lordb on Mar 27, 2023 16:53:43 GMT
Just inflammatory nonsense. What’s inflammatory is what happened on the 6th Jan which was an attack on America. Yes but that doesn't make the entire Republican party a terrorist organisation |
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Mar 27, 2023 17:02:29 GMT
What’s inflammatory is what happened on the 6th Jan which was an attack on America. Yes but that doesn't make the entire Republican party a terrorist organisation Absolutely. There must be 1 or 2 left who aren't surely? |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 27, 2023 17:20:09 GMT
That footage is a pretty disturbing watch, surely there's going to be some pretty serious ramifications because of it. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Mar 27, 2023 17:22:19 GMT
I wouldn't normally wish death and destruction on anyone or anything, but since Donald started it...!
The best thing that could happen in America right now would be for the Orange One to turn up his toes, preferably in a provably 'natural causes' way (although I'm well aware that such an eventuality will inevitably be seized upon by the QAnon nutters as 'proof' of something or other).
Trump has the cult of personality that doesn't apply to anyone else in US politics so his removal from the scene would be a blessing, on a purely political level. I'd be surprised if that outcome didn't come as a massive relief to 50% of the Republican Party as well as over half the US population.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 27, 2023 17:28:35 GMT
What’s inflammatory is what happened on the 6th Jan which was an attack on America. Yes but that doesn't make the entire Republican party a terrorist organisation It was the sitting President that called for it who was leader of that party. It does. |
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Post by lordb on Mar 27, 2023 17:39:51 GMT
Yes but that doesn't make the entire Republican party a terrorist organisation It was the sitting President that called for it who was leader of that party. It does. Nonsense that's like saying the entire Tory party were rampant Brexiteers when Boris was PM Senator McCain, a Republican, put a better anti Trump campaign than anyone else You don't defeat these bastards by boxing the entire Republican party into that corner You have to marginalise them, to do that the other Republicans have to be kept onside Potentially that party may split in two if some other prominent Republican takes up the Trump mantle however suspect that elements influence will fade once Trump is completely finished as he will be once he fails to get re nominated to be Republican Presidential candidate If the Democrats are smart they will get Biden not to run either |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 27, 2023 17:45:11 GMT
It was the sitting President that called for it who was leader of that party. It does. Nonsense that's like saying the entire Tory party were rampant Brexiteers when Boris was PM Senator McCain, a Republican, put a better anti Trump campaign than anyone else You don't defeat these bastards by boxing the entire Republican party into that corner You have to marginalise them, to do that the other Republicans have to be kept onside Potentially that party may split in two if some other prominent Republican takes up the Trump mantle however suspect that elements influence will fade once Trump is completely finished as he will be once he fails to get re nominated to be Republican Presidential candidate If the Democrats are smart they will get Biden not to run either As one of the posts above says they need a foot on their throat. We need to be calling what they are. And not trying to hide away from it. It was a Republican insurrection. It was a terrorist act led by a bloke that has millions of followers. |
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Post by lordb on Mar 27, 2023 17:51:08 GMT
Nonsense that's like saying the entire Tory party were rampant Brexiteers when Boris was PM Senator McCain, a Republican, put a better anti Trump campaign than anyone else You don't defeat these bastards by boxing the entire Republican party into that corner You have to marginalise them, to do that the other Republicans have to be kept onside Potentially that party may split in two if some other prominent Republican takes up the Trump mantle however suspect that elements influence will fade once Trump is completely finished as he will be once he fails to get re nominated to be Republican Presidential candidate If the Democrats are smart they will get Biden not to run either As one of the posts above says they need a foot on their throat. We need to be calling what they are. And not trying to hide away from it. It was a Republican insurrection. It was a terrorist act led by a bloke that has millions of followers. Your putting all Repulicans in the 'they' catagory That's not just stupid and wrong but incredibly dangerous |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Mar 27, 2023 17:59:29 GMT
Nonsense that's like saying the entire Tory party were rampant Brexiteers when Boris was PM Senator McCain, a Republican, put a better anti Trump campaign than anyone else You don't defeat these bastards by boxing the entire Republican party into that corner You have to marginalise them, to do that the other Republicans have to be kept onside Potentially that party may split in two if some other prominent Republican takes up the Trump mantle however suspect that elements influence will fade once Trump is completely finished as he will be once he fails to get re nominated to be Republican Presidential candidate If the Democrats are smart they will get Biden not to run either As one of the posts above says they need a foot on their throat. We need to be calling what they are. And not trying to hide away from it. It was a Republican insurrection. It was a terrorist act led by a bloke that has millions of followers. Can't you go back to war-mongering on the Ukraine thread 🤷 |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Mar 27, 2023 18:00:12 GMT
As one of the posts above says they need a foot on their throat. We need to be calling what they are. And not trying to hide away from it. It was a Republican insurrection. It was a terrorist act led by a bloke that has millions of followers. Your putting all Repulicans in the 'they' catagory That's not just stupid and wrong but incredibly dangerous Anyone remember when Hilary Clinton did that? What was the outcome of that? |
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Post by Linx on Mar 27, 2023 18:02:44 GMT
Back in 2018 I drove 6,000 miles across the US. I wasn’t seeking political opinions, but was surprised at how many people would, upon realising I was English, would say something along the lines of an apology for Trump and that he was “not my president”. Now most of this trip was in the fly-over, red-shaded states where you would expect Trump to have lots of support. I found none. Ironically, the only time I came across a Trump supporter was in the relatively liberal city of Seattle. And he was the only one. I suppose that if you’re pissed off that the guy you didn’t vote for got in, you would be more inclined to complain about him, but I did find that the general mood on the TV and out there in the general public was anti-Trump. 74 million people voted for him in 2020. I think you needed to look harder. I can’t stand him. However, there is a big portion of the country that loves him (25-30% of the Republican base) and the remainder that would rather him than a Democrat. If they vote for him, he is “their President” even if they don’t actually like the scum bag. Thanks for the advice, but with a degree in American politics and history, I think I’ve worked out how the democratic system works in the USA. I wasn’t looking for a vox pop, I was actually on a historical trip following the Lewis and Clark Trail. I was just commenting that, on the occasions when the political situation came up in several rural Midwestern states, the people I spoke to declared their opposition to Trump and that they had raised it as a subject, not me. This was at the height of the Russia scandal, so Trump and his dodgy dealings (and naivety in international,diplomacy) were foremost in people’s minds. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 27, 2023 18:19:54 GMT
As one of the posts above says they need a foot on their throat. We need to be calling what they are. And not trying to hide away from it. It was a Republican insurrection. It was a terrorist act led by a bloke that has millions of followers. Your putting all Repulicans in the 'they' catagory That's not just stupid and wrong but incredibly dangerous No it’s not. It’s like not putting all of any terrorist group in with the rest of them. It’s the mainstream. |
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Mar 27, 2023 18:23:54 GMT
That footage is a pretty disturbing watch, surely there's going to be some pretty serious ramifications because of it. He can't even let David Koresh have Waco. A true hold-my-beer moment. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 27, 2023 21:10:20 GMT
A perfectly normal political party.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Mar 30, 2023 21:48:00 GMT
Lock him up, lock him up 😅
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 30, 2023 23:18:25 GMT
Just looked it up - a New York grand jury has 16-23 people on it and at least 12 must vote "I think there was a crime" to indict.
Then it goes to court. I remember a lawyer talking a while back about the most likely charges, and he seemed to think it's almost impossible to get a conviction even if they did the crime.
We don't know the charges yet though.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Mar 31, 2023 6:46:28 GMT
Lock him up, lock him up 😅 You gotta laugh, haven't you! I wonder if any of those who chanted Lock her up at his rallies are remotely aware of the irony! |
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