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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 4:11:59 GMT
Anyone else reckon he looks like he regrets running for POTUS.
Looking at his body language he seems to has lost his swagger and his enthusiasm.
Can't help feeling it was all a bit of a publicity stunt and he is as shocked and indeed surprised as everyone.
Even though he is POTUS he is still answerable to Congress and The House, whereas before he was answerable to no one and somewhat of a tyrant.
I will give him till the end of the year, by which time a dignified, but highly choreographed resignation will happen, probably citing health issues.
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Post by stockportstokie on Feb 22, 2017 4:40:08 GMT
Amateur psychologist hunches are always the best. In answer to the question, no. When he said it's running like a finely tuned machine he wasn't lying, he's smashing it.  Nasdaq  S&P  Combined since election   |
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 22, 2017 7:18:52 GMT
Amateur psychologist hunches are always the best. In answer to the question, no. When he said it's running like a finely tuned machine he wasn't lying, he's smashing it. Nasdaq S&P Combined since election After a month, those charts are hardly conclusive |
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Post by Mendicant on Feb 22, 2017 8:14:48 GMT
Anyone else reckon he looks like he regrets running for POTUS. Looking at his body language he seems to has lost his swagger and his enthusiasm. Can't help feeling it was all a bit of a publicity stunt and he is as shocked and indeed surprised as everyone. Even though he is POTUS he is still answerable to Congress and The House, whereas before he was answerable to no one and somewhat of a tyrant. I will give him till the end of the year, by which time a dignified, but highly choreographed resignation will happen, probably citing health issues. He's an anti-establishment President working in the home of the American establishment. It will always be an uphill battle against the Democrats and many Republicans, and above the CIA who don't seem to like him. I conner fault the youth. |
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Post by auntiegeorge on Feb 22, 2017 9:08:41 GMT
Actually Mr Bath, the charts are extremely conclusive. The DOW, S&P and Nasdaq are breaking out of multi-year consolidation patterns. Easier markets always follow difficult markets and US stocks are going higher than anyone can imagine. This is happening regardless of who won the presidency. Chart below is from 6 weeks ago and the S&P500 has added on another 90 points since.  |
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Post by Skankmonkey on Feb 22, 2017 13:14:12 GMT
I agree with the op. Trump does look tired.
As to the economics, there are two factors. The West would appear to have been in steady economic recovery variously since 2015. The rude pace of recovery here last year seems to have been vastly underestimated. There are even signs of life now in the sluggish Euro zone. The US economy grew steadily last year and in the 3rd quarter was at over 3% though 4th quarter estimates have seen a step back to just under 2%. That suggests to me that Trump has gone into office with a fair economic wind behind him.
The second marker as to the current bullish US markets is Trump's vast spending plans and tax cuts - PROVIDING he can get the unprecedented level of deficit financing past the legislature. That would provide a significant short to mid term stimulus to the US (and world) economy. |
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Post by chuffedstokie on Feb 22, 2017 20:09:47 GMT
Anyone else reckon he looks like he regrets running for POTUS. Looking at his body language he seems to has lost his swagger and his enthusiasm. Can't help feeling it was all a bit of a publicity stunt and he is as shocked and indeed surprised as everyone. Even though he is POTUS he is still answerable to Congress and The House, whereas before he was answerable to no one and somewhat of a tyrant. I will give him till the end of the year, by which time a dignified, but highly choreographed resignation will happen, probably citing health issues. Why is he back on the soap box so soon I wonder. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 21:55:52 GMT
He's getting plenty of rounds of golf in by the looks of it....
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Post by mermaidsal on Feb 22, 2017 22:01:18 GMT
Anyone else reckon he looks like he regrets running for POTUS. Looking at his body language he seems to has lost his swagger and his enthusiasm. Can't help feeling it was all a bit of a publicity stunt and he is as shocked and indeed surprised as everyone. Even though he is POTUS he is still answerable to Congress and The House, whereas before he was answerable to no one and somewhat of a tyrant. I will give him till the end of the year, by which time a dignified, but highly choreographed resignation will happen, probably citing health issues. Dignified? Trump?? Really??? We agree about the chances of a resignation but I reckon it'll be more like a hissy fit and saying you morons don't deserve me. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 23:30:57 GMT
Anyone else reckon he looks like he regrets running for POTUS. Looking at his body language he seems to has lost his swagger and his enthusiasm. Can't help feeling it was all a bit of a publicity stunt and he is as shocked and indeed surprised as everyone. Even though he is POTUS he is still answerable to Congress and The House, whereas before he was answerable to no one and somewhat of a tyrant. I will give him till the end of the year, by which time a dignified, but highly choreographed resignation will happen, probably citing health issues. Dignified? Trump?? Really??? We agree about the chances of a resignation but I reckon it'll be more like a hissy fit and saying you morons don't deserve me. Maybe Sal, but behind the scenes it will be nasty, in public it will be all nicey nicey, and they will use leverage for his sprawling empires future harmony to push him out quietly. Only an opinion mind... |
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Post by Mendicant on Feb 23, 2017 22:44:55 GMT
Markets should do great, it's gonna be a brilliant 4 years for the richest of the rich. The "anti-establishment" line is a reet fucking laugh. A Goldman Sachs banker, the head of ExxonMobil and and Scott fucking Pruitt who lots of people say that he's got a special pair of branded kneepads for each oil company. He is anti-establishment as I see it. The CIA, the Democrats, most Republicans, the mainstream media all oppose him and as far as I can tell so do shadowy puppet masters like Soros. |
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Post by stockportstokie on Feb 24, 2017 0:41:59 GMT
Markets should do great, it's gonna be a brilliant 4 years for the richest of the rich. The "anti-establishment" line is a reet fucking laugh. A Goldman Sachs banker, the head of ExxonMobil and and Scott fucking Pruitt who lots of people say that he's got a special pair of branded kneepads for each oil company. The average murican stands to benefit from the tax proposals and protectionist economic policy. The globalist elite don't want borders as it lessens their operating costs. He's sticking two fingers up them and as far as I can see americans stand to benefit as a result. |
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Post by generationex on Feb 24, 2017 1:15:24 GMT
He's going to show those rednecks that voted for him what a global elite is alright. Him, Putin and global oil.
He's going to fill that swamp with more shit than they could ever imagine. Just give him time.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Feb 24, 2017 11:59:26 GMT
Dignified? Trump?? Really??? We agree about the chances of a resignation but I reckon it'll be more like a hissy fit and saying you morons don't deserve me. Maybe Sal, but behind the scenes it will be nasty, in public it will be all nicey nicey, and they will use leverage for his sprawling empires future harmony to push him out quietly. Only an opinion mind... The only way to make it seem nicey nicey in public, is to tie him to some railings somewhere away from any possibility of him having access to twitter mate. Love him or loathe him, the guy is and always has been a narcissist. Not a chance he won't at least attempt to have the last word and make sure every bugger on the planet hears his side of the story |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 12:34:05 GMT
Maybe Sal, but behind the scenes it will be nasty, in public it will be all nicey nicey, and they will use leverage for his sprawling empires future harmony to push him out quietly. Only an opinion mind... The only way to make it seem nicey nicey in public, is to tie him to some railings somewhere away from any possibility of him having access to twitter mate. Love him or loathe him, the guy is and always has been a narcissist. Not a chance he won't at least attempt to have the last word and make sure every bugger on the planet hears his side of the story Not at the expense of what he holds most dearly...The Trump brand. |
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 24, 2017 12:39:58 GMT
Maybe Sal, but behind the scenes it will be nasty, in public it will be all nicey nicey, and they will use leverage for his sprawling empires future harmony to push him out quietly. Only an opinion mind... The only way to make it seem nicey nicey in public, is to tie him to some railings somewhere away from any possibility of him having access to twitter mate. Love him or loathe him, the guy is and always has been a narcissist. Not a chance he won't at least attempt to have the last word and make sure every bugger on the planet hears his side of the story Worse than that he is absolutely clueless apparently it recently had to be explained to him that he couldn't just decide there would be 4% GDP and tell people to go out and implement it...... |
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Feb 24, 2017 13:13:19 GMT
The only way to make it seem nicey nicey in public, is to tie him to some railings somewhere away from any possibility of him having access to twitter mate. Love him or loathe him, the guy is and always has been a narcissist. Not a chance he won't at least attempt to have the last word and make sure every bugger on the planet hears his side of the story Not at the expense of what he holds most dearly...The Trump brand. But he's been ridiculed, criticised and slated for decades now and it hasn't bothered him or prevented him from losing his rag on twitter. Not as if it's all just started since becoming President |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Feb 24, 2017 19:52:38 GMT
The only way to make it seem nicey nicey in public, is to tie him to some railings somewhere away from any possibility of him having access to twitter mate. Love him or loathe him, the guy is and always has been a narcissist. Not a chance he won't at least attempt to have the last word and make sure every bugger on the planet hears his side of the story Worse than that he is absolutely clueless apparently it recently had to be explained to him that he couldn't just decide there would be 4% GDP and tell people to go out and implement it...... Well, if even Boris Johnson describes you as "stupefyingly ignorant" you're in trouble. I would not be at all surprised if he had no idea what the letters GDP actually stood for and what GDP actually is. And this is the man trusted with making decisions for the country, and which will massively affect the world. Frightening. I hope he's surrounded by people who actually know what they're doing and all these people he's appointed are just loud mouth figureheads. |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Feb 24, 2017 23:44:39 GMT
The only way to make it seem nicey nicey in public, is to tie him to some railings somewhere away from any possibility of him having access to twitter mate. Love him or loathe him, the guy is and always has been a narcissist. Not a chance he won't at least attempt to have the last word and make sure every bugger on the planet hears his side of the story Worse than that he is absolutely clueless apparently it recently had to be explained to him that he couldn't just decide there would be 4% GDP and tell people to go out and implement it...... He once claimed that in the first quarter of a year (I think it was 2015) the GDP for the USA was below zero percent. I understood what GDP meant when I was about 12 years old. There's lots I didn't and still don't understand about economics, but even then I knew that GDP could not be below 0. The guy is an absolute whopper. |
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Post by Skankmonkey on Feb 25, 2017 12:16:30 GMT
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Post by mermaidsal on Feb 25, 2017 12:29:23 GMT
Anyone else enjoying the BBC's sarcasm campaign since Trump banned them from briefings? They just use his own words, yesterday's speech was described on 5Live as saying it would be a great, great wall and would keep bad people out  |
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Post by Skankmonkey on Feb 25, 2017 12:44:19 GMT
Anyone else enjoying the BBC's sarcasm campaign since Trump banned them from briefings? They just use his own words, yesterday's speech was described on 5Live as saying it would be a great, great wall and would keep bad people out I haven't seen it yet :-) He is beginning to look weak to me though. He is only talking to his supporters. That's a bad sign early on surely. Wasn't he promising/threatening another 7 muslim country travel executive order this week? That has gone bye the bye now. He's starting to worry me. The prospect of an international trade war is frightening. |
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Post by Gods on Feb 25, 2017 12:49:26 GMT
Deeply troubling in all truth, the kind of thing you'd expect to see in North Korea not from the 'leader' of the Western World. I thought he would mellow once in to the job and at least pay lip service to being the President for all Americans but none of it  |
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Post by AlliG on Feb 25, 2017 12:59:58 GMT
Deeply troubling in all truth, the kind of thing you'd expect to see in North Korea not from the 'leader' of the Western World. I thought he would mellow once in to the job and at least pay lip service to being the President for all Americans but none of it It appears that Donald and Kim Jong Un have more in common than ridiculous haircuts. |
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Post by Skankmonkey on Feb 25, 2017 13:04:36 GMT
Deeply troubling in all truth, the kind of thing you'd expect to see in North Korea not from the 'leader' of the Western World. I thought he would mellow once in to the job and at least pay lip service to being the President for all Americans but none of it Yep. He has to get his huge uncosted spending plans and tax cuts through the legislature yet. Judging from that "USA USA" conservative rally he was at this week he"ll come up against opposition from within then as well. That will be fun. |
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Post by Gods on Feb 25, 2017 13:16:19 GMT
Deeply troubling in all truth, the kind of thing you'd expect to see in North Korea not from the 'leader' of the Western World. I thought he would mellow once in to the job and at least pay lip service to being the President for all Americans but none of it Yep. He has to get his huge uncosted spending plans and tax cuts through the legislature yet. Judging from that "USA USA" conservative rally he was at this week he"ll come up against opposition from within then as well. That will be fun. Yes, his very own Nuremberg Rally, what the heck was that all about? He is no longer campaigning he should be getting on with the job of being President. |
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Post by auntiegeorge on Feb 25, 2017 13:29:04 GMT
You mean the CPAC event? I have to say that while I am generally a Trump supporter he looked like a corpse arisen from the dead compared to Nigel Farage who set the place ablaze with his oratory - sadly to a somewhat smaller audience.
Farage is not only the most successful politician and greatest orator of our generation, he is a true prophet.
I'm beginning to have doubts about Trump myself. But I'm willing to give him more time since he is still in his "honeymoon" phase.
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Post by bathstoke on Feb 25, 2017 15:26:11 GMT
You mean the CPAC event? I have to say that while I am generally a Trump supporter he looked like a corpse arisen from the dead compared to Nigel Farage who set the place ablaze with his oratory - sadly to a somewhat smaller audience. Farage is not only the most successful politician and greatest orator of our generation, he is a true prophet. I'm beginning to have doubts about Trump myself. But I'm willing to give him more time since he is still in his "honeymoon" phase. True prophet!?! He's a false prophet & a charlatan |
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Post by mermaidsal on Feb 25, 2017 15:40:41 GMT
Anyone else enjoying the BBC's sarcasm campaign since Trump banned them from briefings? They just use his own words, yesterday's speech was described on 5Live as saying it would be a great, great wall and would keep bad people out I haven't seen it yet :-) He is beginning to look weak to me though. He is only talking to his supporters. That's a bad sign early on surely. Wasn't he promising/threatening another 7 muslim country travel executive order this week? That has gone bye the bye now. He's starting to worry me. The prospect of an international trade war is frightening. Well Adolf started his 're-election' campaign quite early on too, at Nuremburg... tbh Lex Luthor, sorry Trump would be scaring me shitless if I didn't believe the US system was strong enough, just about, to rein his powers back. It's going to be a close call tho. |
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Post by mrcoke on Feb 25, 2017 15:51:22 GMT
Don't worry too much about what Trump will do. The President is not a dictator, even when a policy has popular support.
One of Obama's first actions 8 years ago was to sign a paper to start the process to get rid of Guantanamo Bay; it's still there!
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