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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Sept 17, 2024 10:47:24 GMT
The second attempt appears to be perfectly plausible to me as the guy says he fought in Ukraine against the Russians. There's his motive right there.
I still can't get my head around the lack of scar damage to Trump's ear after it "ripped through my ear". Old people are not noted for their healing powers. Another thing that troubles me is the complete lack of mainstream media discussion about his ear.
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Post by Tom_stokiepmre89 on Sept 17, 2024 11:54:36 GMT
I still can't get my head around the lack of scar damage to Trump's ear after it "ripped through my ear". Old people are not noted for their healing powers. Another thing that troubles me is the complete lack of mainstream media discussion about his ear. Much of the mainstream media is vehemently against trump. You can guarantee there are credible journalists who have already explored this angle or are currently investigating. And you can guarantee that, if it's a conspiracy, then there will be some people with inside information prepared to whitsleblow. If this theory turns out to be true then I don't see how it doesn't eventually come out. It wouldn't just be the end of trump's campaign, it would be one of the greatest scandals of all time and effectively the end of his life! Innocent people died. Obviously the lack of reporting isn't definitive evidence that it's not true because mainstream journalists need a complete story, but if it's true then we'll find out. So, with regards to this theory, the longer there is a lack of mainstream reporting then the less likely it is to be true IMO. For this theory to be true but never to come to light, you need the team to be simultaneously incompetent enough to forget to create a visible scar, yet competent enough to execute one of the greatest, most heinous false flags in history and get away with it...
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Post by OldStokie on Sept 17, 2024 13:20:34 GMT
Amazing how conspiracy theories become credible to the side usually using “conspiracy theorist” as an insult, when the theories happen to align with their worldviews and narratives. Trump had fund raising emails, reporting that he had survived the 'attack', ready to go, just 10 mins after the news broke. That isn't a conspiracy theory, it's a fact. Now whether you believe that that is just coincidence, or wonder if there might actually be something more to it, is open to debate. Anyone who takes any notice of my posts will know that I don't like conspiracy theories. So, even though I've put one forward, I can't out and out dismiss one in this particular instance. Paul's addition above just adds to my thinking. I'm usually an 'Ockham’s Razor' person which, in this case, is that the so called 'assassin' is a complete lunatic who would have difficulty making beans on toast. Then there's the matter that he was supposed to have been there for many hours when he hadn't got a clue that Trump would do a stupid thing by not telling the Secret Service that he wanted to play golf that day, which would have meant that the SS would have secured every inch of that perimeter fence. The whole affair stinks of fish. OS.
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Post by Tom_stokiepmre89 on Sept 17, 2024 13:35:02 GMT
Trump had fund raising emails, reporting that he had survived the 'attack', ready to go, just 10 mins after the news broke. That isn't a conspiracy theory, it's a fact. Now whether you believe that that is just coincidence, or wonder if there might actually be something more to it, is open to debate. Anyone who takes any notice of my posts will know that I don't like conspiracy theories. So, even though I've put one forward, I can't out and out dismiss one in this particular instance. Paul's addition above just adds to my thinking. I'm usually an 'Ockham’s Razor' person which, in this case, is that the so called 'assassin' is a complete lunatic who would have difficulty making beans on toast. Then there's the matter that he was supposed to have been there for many hours when he hadn't got a clue that Trump would do a stupid thing by not telling the Secret Service that he wanted to play golf that day, which would have meant that the SS would have secured every inch of that perimeter fence. The whole affair stinks of fish. OS. I don’t disagree that this second incident seems suspicious. You also have a crystal clear motivation from trump’s team to concoct this. Trump’s campaign has taken a huge hit of late. He’s flapping like a fish on land whilst Harris’ campaign (aided in no small part by the mainstream media and trump himself) seems to be gathering huge momentum. Plus there’s the added credibility from there having already been a recent assassination attempt, so would it be so unbelievable for it to happen again? I’m certainly not ruling anything out.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 17, 2024 16:15:39 GMT
I still can't get my head around the lack of scar damage to Trump's ear after it "ripped through my ear". Old people are not noted for their healing powers. Another thing that troubles me is the complete lack of mainstream media discussion about his ear. Much of the mainstream media is vehemently against trump. You can guarantee there are credible journalists who have already explored this angle or are currently investigating. And you can guarantee that, if it's a conspiracy, then there will be some people with inside information prepared to whitsleblow. If this theory turns out to be true then I don't see how it doesn't eventually come out. It wouldn't just be the end of trump's campaign, it would be one of the greatest scandals of all time and effectively the end of his life! Innocent people died. Obviously the lack of reporting isn't definitive evidence that it's not true because mainstream journalists need a complete story, but if it's true then we'll find out. So, with regards to this theory, the longer there is a lack of mainstream reporting then the less likely it is to be true IMO. For this theory to be true but never to come to light, you need the team to be simultaneously incompetent enough to forget to create a visible scar, yet competent enough to execute one of the greatest, most heinous false flags in history and get away with it...
Does it have to ultimately be the extreme of one or the other?
How about it's somewhere in the middle and provides a credible explanation, without it having to be 'one of the greatest, most heinous false flags in history'.
What if Trump or his people weren't indeed in on it and there was a genuine attempt on his life (whether orchestrated by a loan individual or not, is for a separate conversation) and there was a massive security failure and the shooter was a lousy shot (both plausible) however, Trump wasn't actually hit by a bullet at all but rather one of the bullets hit the lectern in front of him and a small shard of perspex from it, ricocheted across the base of his ear, just enough to create the blood that we saw.
There would then no longer be the need to explain why there isn't a scar on his ear commensurate with him being hit by a high powered bullet but it would also explain what we did see with our own eyes.
Problem being, that once Trump claimed he had been hit by a bullet, he and his people had to continue the lie.
Now I'm not saying that this absolutely is what happened but rather, demonstrating that it doesn't have to be a full blown conspiracy, to explain the lack of any scarring.
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Post by Mendicant on Sept 17, 2024 17:40:21 GMT
Much of the mainstream media is vehemently against trump. You can guarantee there are credible journalists who have already explored this angle or are currently investigating. And you can guarantee that, if it's a conspiracy, then there will be some people with inside information prepared to whitsleblow. If this theory turns out to be true then I don't see how it doesn't eventually come out. It wouldn't just be the end of trump's campaign, it would be one of the greatest scandals of all time and effectively the end of his life! Innocent people died. Obviously the lack of reporting isn't definitive evidence that it's not true because mainstream journalists need a complete story, but if it's true then we'll find out. So, with regards to this theory, the longer there is a lack of mainstream reporting then the less likely it is to be true IMO. For this theory to be true but never to come to light, you need the team to be simultaneously incompetent enough to forget to create a visible scar, yet competent enough to execute one of the greatest, most heinous false flags in history and get away with it...
Does it have to ultimately be the extreme of one or the other?
How about it's somewhere in the middle and provides a credible explanation, without it having to be 'one of the greatest, most heinous false flags in history'.
What if Trump or his people weren't indeed in on it and there was a genuine attempt on his life (whether orchestrated by a loan individual or not, is for a separate conversation) and there was a massive security failure and the shooter was a lousy shot (both plausible) however, Trump wasn't actually hit by a bullet at all but rather one of the bullets hit the lectern in front of him and a small shard of perspex from it, ricocheted across the base of his ear, just enough to create the blood that we saw.
There would then no longer be the need to explain why there isn't a scar on his ear commensurate with him being hit by a high powered bullet but it would also explain what we did see with our own eyes.
Problem being, that once Trump claimed he had been hit by a bullet, he and his people had to continue the lie.
Now I'm not saying that this absolutely is what happened but rather, demonstrating that it doesn't have to be a full blown conspiracy, to explain the lack of any scarring.
Shard of Perspex were a good band to be fair. I’m pretty sure they performed locally once supporting… well do I need to say?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 17, 2024 17:41:24 GMT
Does it have to ultimately be the extreme of one or the other?
How about it's somewhere in the middle and provides a credible explanation, without it having to be 'one of the greatest, most heinous false flags in history'.
What if Trump or his people weren't indeed in on it and there was a genuine attempt on his life (whether orchestrated by a loan individual or not, is for a separate conversation) and there was a massive security failure and the shooter was a lousy shot (both plausible) however, Trump wasn't actually hit by a bullet at all but rather one of the bullets hit the lectern in front of him and a small shard of perspex from it, ricocheted across the base of his ear, just enough to create the blood that we saw.
There would then no longer be the need to explain why there isn't a scar on his ear commensurate with him being hit by a high powered bullet but it would also explain what we did see with our own eyes.
Problem being, that once Trump claimed he had been hit by a bullet, he and his people had to continue the lie.
Now I'm not saying that this absolutely is what happened but rather, demonstrating that it doesn't have to be a full blown conspiracy, to explain the lack of any scarring.
Shard of Perspex were a good band to be fair. I’m pretty sure they performed locally once supporting… well do I need to say? I must admit I’ve never heard of “well do I need to say”. Were they any good?
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Post by elystokie on Sept 18, 2024 7:01:03 GMT
Watched part 1 of The Trump Heist on C4 last night.
Part 2 tonight.
No further evidence is really needed about him being a complete fruitloop but there's plenty in there.
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Post by elystokie on Sept 18, 2024 7:40:49 GMT
This book title is just bound to trigger him, 'Lucky Loser'
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Post by Ariel Manto on Sept 18, 2024 8:16:42 GMT
I'm only amazed at how bad these apparent "assassins" are at repeatedly trying to assassinate him.
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Post by elystokie on Sept 18, 2024 8:27:29 GMT
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 18, 2024 22:35:11 GMT
I’ve said it before, but it’s worth repeating: Trump is a total cunt whose only interest is self interest.
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Post by georgeberrysafro on Sept 19, 2024 15:18:59 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 19, 2024 15:20:11 GMT
What an absolute douchebag.
At least Elvis didn't dodge the draft ...
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