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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 15, 2024 10:28:03 GMT
If he was an idiot he wouldn’t have been the president of the US and standing again or a billionaire. Cobs, several people (including myself) have explained in the last few posts how Trump actually acquired his wealth and how he actually is a dreadful businessesman. Just because you're a billionaire, it doesn't then mean that you can't be an idiot. I've posted a link just above, from where he is speaking just yesterday. What he is saying is completely idiotic and he's talking about trade tariffs, how do you explain what he's saying, if he's not an idiot? The reason I chose that link is because it was so recent. However I'm absolutely convinced that I could find similar examples of him not having the first clue what he's talking about, from Friday and the day before that and the day before that and the day before etc. etc. etc. From the New York Times, the writers were awarded a Pulitzer Prize for their original expose of Trump, he was anything but a successful businessman ... www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/as-a-businessman-trump-was-the-biggest-loser-of-all"Between 1985 and 1994, Trump’s core businesses lost money every single year, and the accumulated losses came to more than a billion dollars. “In fact, year after year, Mr. Trump appears to have lost more money than nearly any other individual American taxpayer, the Times found when it compared his results with detailed information the I.R.S. compiles on an annual sampling of high-income earners,” Buettner and Craig write. “His core business losses in 1990 and 1991—more than $250 million each year—were more than double those of the nearest taxpayers in the I.R.S. information for those years. Of course, anybody who has followed Trump’s career already knew that much of what he said was erroneous and deceptive. He financed the parts of his business portfolio that he didn’t inherit from Fred by taking on huge loans. During the recession of the early nineteen-nineties, four of his highly indebted businesses declared bankruptcy—three casinos in Atlantic City and the Plaza Hotel on Fifth Avenue. Other Trump businesses only survived because they were sold or his lenders decided they were worth more as going concerns and allowed him to write down some of his debts. The Times reporters and other journalists have already covered some of this troubled history. In September, 2016, the Times received a copy of part of Trump’s 1995 tax return, which showed that he declared a massive tax loss, of nine hundred and sixteen million dollars. The latest Times report confirms that Trump didn’t pay much tax in the decade before 1995, either. To wit: “Over all, Mr. Trump lost so much money that he was able to avoid paying income taxes for eight of the 10 years.” This revelation confirms another thing that many Trump skeptics have long suspected. The financial problems his businesses faced predated the bust of the early nineteen-nineties. “The numbers show that in 1985, Mr. Trump reported losses of $46.1 million from his core businesses—largely casinos, hotels and retail space in apartment buildings,” the Times reported. “They continued to lose money every year, totaling $1.17 billion in losses for the decade.” In 1987, Trump published a ghostwritten book—“Trump: The Art of the Deal”—that became a best-seller and cemented his status as a celebrity. By the time the book came out, the story notes, Trump “was already in deep financial distress, losing tens of millions of dollars on troubled business deals. Even now, there are a lot of Americans who believe that the President is a savvy and successful businessman who knows what he is doing. The actual record, which, thanks to the Times, we now know a good deal more about, suggests the exact opposite. It reveals Trump to be a reckless conman who burned money and relied on his father, even as he was fashioning a myth that eventually took him all the way to the White House. No wonder he is so averse to allowing the American public to see any more accurate information about his financial history." That’s your opinion. I have mine. It might be just that we have different definitions of what an idiot is. Name some more for me ?
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Post by elystokie on Sept 15, 2024 10:28:45 GMT
If he was an idiot he wouldn’t have been the president of the US and standing again or a billionaire. Cobs, several people (including myself) have explained in the last few posts how Trump actually acquired his wealth and how he actually is a dreadful businessesman. Just because you're a billionaire, it doesn't then mean that you can't be an idiot. I've posted a link just above, from where he is speaking just yesterday. What he is saying is completely idiotic and he's talking about trade tariffs, how do you explain what he's saying, if he's not an idiot? The reason I chose that link is because it was so recent. However I'm absolutely convinced that I could find similar examples of him not having the first clue what he's talking about, from Friday and the day before that and the day before that and the day before etc. etc. etc. From the New York Times, the writers were awarded a Pulitzer Prize for their original expose of Trump, he was anything but a successful businessman ... www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/as-a-businessman-trump-was-the-biggest-loser-of-all"Between 1985 and 1994, Trump’s core businesses lost money every single year, and the accumulated losses came to more than a billion dollars. “In fact, year after year, Mr. Trump appears to have lost more money than nearly any other individual American taxpayer, the Times found when it compared his results with detailed information the I.R.S. compiles on an annual sampling of high-income earners,” Buettner and Craig write. “His core business losses in 1990 and 1991—more than $250 million each year—were more than double those of the nearest taxpayers in the I.R.S. information for those years. Of course, anybody who has followed Trump’s career already knew that much of what he said was erroneous and deceptive. He financed the parts of his business portfolio that he didn’t inherit from Fred by taking on huge loans. During the recession of the early nineteen-nineties, four of his highly indebted businesses declared bankruptcy—three casinos in Atlantic City and the Plaza Hotel on Fifth Avenue. Other Trump businesses only survived because they were sold or his lenders decided they were worth more as going concerns and allowed him to write down some of his debts. The Times reporters and other journalists have already covered some of this troubled history. In September, 2016, the Times received a copy of part of Trump’s 1995 tax return, which showed that he declared a massive tax loss, of nine hundred and sixteen million dollars. The latest Times report confirms that Trump didn’t pay much tax in the decade before 1995, either. To wit: “Over all, Mr. Trump lost so much money that he was able to avoid paying income taxes for eight of the 10 years.” This revelation confirms another thing that many Trump skeptics have long suspected. The financial problems his businesses faced predated the bust of the early nineteen-nineties. “The numbers show that in 1985, Mr. Trump reported losses of $46.1 million from his core businesses—largely casinos, hotels and retail space in apartment buildings,” the Times reported. “They continued to lose money every year, totaling $1.17 billion in losses for the decade.” In 1987, Trump published a ghostwritten book—“Trump: The Art of the Deal”—that became a best-seller and cemented his status as a celebrity. By the time the book came out, the story notes, Trump “was already in deep financial distress, losing tens of millions of dollars on troubled business deals. Even now, there are a lot of Americans who believe that the President is a savvy and successful businessman who knows what he is doing. The actual record, which, thanks to the Times, we now know a good deal more about, suggests the exact opposite. It reveals Trump to be a reckless conman who burned money and relied on his father, even as he was fashioning a myth that eventually took him all the way to the White House. No wonder he is so averse to allowing the American public to see any more accurate information about his financial history." I'm no business expert but it surely takes a special sort of fucktard to lose money owning casinos 🤦
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 15, 2024 10:47:46 GMT
Cobs, several people (including myself) have explained in the last few posts how Trump actually acquired his wealth and how he actually is a dreadful businessesman. Just because you're a billionaire, it doesn't then mean that you can't be an idiot. I've posted a link just above, from where he is speaking just yesterday. What he is saying is completely idiotic and he's talking about trade tariffs, how do you explain what he's saying, if he's not an idiot? The reason I chose that link is because it was so recent. However I'm absolutely convinced that I could find similar examples of him not having the first clue what he's talking about, from Friday and the day before that and the day before that and the day before etc. etc. etc. From the New York Times, the writers were awarded a Pulitzer Prize for their original expose of Trump, he was anything but a successful businessman ... www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/as-a-businessman-trump-was-the-biggest-loser-of-all"Between 1985 and 1994, Trump’s core businesses lost money every single year, and the accumulated losses came to more than a billion dollars. “In fact, year after year, Mr. Trump appears to have lost more money than nearly any other individual American taxpayer, the Times found when it compared his results with detailed information the I.R.S. compiles on an annual sampling of high-income earners,” Buettner and Craig write. “His core business losses in 1990 and 1991—more than $250 million each year—were more than double those of the nearest taxpayers in the I.R.S. information for those years. Of course, anybody who has followed Trump’s career already knew that much of what he said was erroneous and deceptive. He financed the parts of his business portfolio that he didn’t inherit from Fred by taking on huge loans. During the recession of the early nineteen-nineties, four of his highly indebted businesses declared bankruptcy—three casinos in Atlantic City and the Plaza Hotel on Fifth Avenue. Other Trump businesses only survived because they were sold or his lenders decided they were worth more as going concerns and allowed him to write down some of his debts. The Times reporters and other journalists have already covered some of this troubled history. In September, 2016, the Times received a copy of part of Trump’s 1995 tax return, which showed that he declared a massive tax loss, of nine hundred and sixteen million dollars. The latest Times report confirms that Trump didn’t pay much tax in the decade before 1995, either. To wit: “Over all, Mr. Trump lost so much money that he was able to avoid paying income taxes for eight of the 10 years.” This revelation confirms another thing that many Trump skeptics have long suspected. The financial problems his businesses faced predated the bust of the early nineteen-nineties. “The numbers show that in 1985, Mr. Trump reported losses of $46.1 million from his core businesses—largely casinos, hotels and retail space in apartment buildings,” the Times reported. “They continued to lose money every year, totaling $1.17 billion in losses for the decade.” In 1987, Trump published a ghostwritten book—“Trump: The Art of the Deal”—that became a best-seller and cemented his status as a celebrity. By the time the book came out, the story notes, Trump “was already in deep financial distress, losing tens of millions of dollars on troubled business deals. Even now, there are a lot of Americans who believe that the President is a savvy and successful businessman who knows what he is doing. The actual record, which, thanks to the Times, we now know a good deal more about, suggests the exact opposite. It reveals Trump to be a reckless conman who burned money and relied on his father, even as he was fashioning a myth that eventually took him all the way to the White House. No wonder he is so averse to allowing the American public to see any more accurate information about his financial history." That’s your opinion. I have mine. It might be just that we have different definitions of what an idiot is. Name some more for me ? It's not an opinion, they are facts, laid out by gifted journalists, well recognised in their craft, demonstrating that you can be a billionaire, whilst being dreadful at business. As Joe pointed out last night, if he had placed his inheritance in a bank account and not touched it at all, it would be worth far more today than it is. I've provided you a link of him talking idiotically about trade tariffs just yesterday, in order to support my opinion. What are you claiming, that in your opinion, you don't think he's talking idiotically? Why do you think that? www.amazon.co.uk/Indisputable-Facts-Proving-Donald-Trump-ebook/dp/B07DWFH672 🙊
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 15, 2024 11:01:02 GMT
That’s your opinion. I have mine. It might be just that we have different definitions of what an idiot is. Name some more for me ? It's not an opinion, they are facts, laid out by gifted journalists, well recognised in their craft, demonstrating that you can be a billionaire, whilst being dreadful at business. As Joe pointed out last night, if he had placed his inheritance in a bank account and not touched it at all, it would be worth far more today than it is. I've provided you a link of him talking idiotically about trade tariffs just yesterday, in order to support my opinion. What are you claiming, that in your opinion, you don't think he's talking idiotically? Why do you think that? www.amazon.co.uk/Indisputable-Facts-Proving-Donald-Trump-ebook/dp/B07DWFH672 🙊 Facts? that he’s an idiot? I’m not debating re his financial mistakes or that he’s not a particularly nice person I’m just saying he’s not an idiot because let’s be fair he’s achieved a lot more than you and I have (not all good by any means). All i’m saying is it’s in the eyes of the beholder as to what an idiot is and shouldn’t be governed by politics. On the subject of idiocy my wife thinks i’m one for spending way to much time on a messageboard talking waffle that has zero impact on anyone else’s life so on that note I’m off.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 15, 2024 12:23:13 GMT
It's not an opinion, they are facts, laid out by gifted journalists, well recognised in their craft, demonstrating that you can be a billionaire, whilst being dreadful at business. As Joe pointed out last night, if he had placed his inheritance in a bank account and not touched it at all, it would be worth far more today than it is. I've provided you a link of him talking idiotically about trade tariffs just yesterday, in order to support my opinion. What are you claiming, that in your opinion, you don't think he's talking idiotically? Why do you think that? www.amazon.co.uk/Indisputable-Facts-Proving-Donald-Trump-ebook/dp/B07DWFH672 🙊 Facts? that he’s an idiot? I’m not debating re his financial mistakes or that he’s not a particularly nice person I’m just saying he’s not an idiot because let’s be fair he’s achieved a lot more than you and I have (not all good by any means). All i’m saying is it’s in the eyes of the beholder as to what an idiot is and shouldn’t be governed by politics. On the subject of idiocy my wife thinks i’m one for spending way to much time on a messageboard talking waffle that has zero impact on anyone else’s life so on that note I’m off. You are debating his financial dealings, indeed it was you who started it by suggesting he couldn't be a billionaire if he was an idiot. I've demonstrated to you that you can be. There's plenty of idiots walking this earth who have 'achieved' more than you and I, I really don't see how that's a credible criteria for not being one. It's impossible for a person to be an idiot, if they've 'achieved' more in life than Cobs or Paul ... OK.
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Post by elystokie on Sept 15, 2024 12:26:47 GMT
The car crash debate (which he won obviously 😂) was apparently the fault of the lighting, the moderators, Harris wearing Tiffany earrings and Harris being given the questions beforehand 🤔
The market evidently didn't think he won the debate, shares in Truth Social immediately plummeted 46% and have continued to tank.
Given that Donnie Dum Dum owns 57% it might not have been his smartest move to do zero preparation before the debate 🤔
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Post by LDE76 on Sept 15, 2024 12:40:37 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 15, 2024 13:33:58 GMT
The car crash debate (which he won obviously 😂) was apparently the fault of the lighting, the moderators, Harris wearing Tiffany earrings and Harris being given the questions beforehand 🤔 The market evidently didn't think he won the debate, shares in Truth Social immediately plummeted 46% and have continued to tank. Given that Donnie Dum Dum owns 57% it might not have been his smartest move to do zero preparation before the debate 🤔 The Dum Dum camp were making these allegations about the debate two days before. So ot was always going to de-generate into a blartfest from the big thick baby.
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Post by elystokie on Sept 15, 2024 13:42:41 GMT
There's apparently a plethora of artists whose music he's used without authorisation doing the same, they'll love to see this 🙂
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 15, 2024 13:49:14 GMT
There's apparently a plethora of artists whose music he's used without authorisation doing the same, they'll love to see this 🙂 So many artists not wanting their work to be used by him, when it brings a lot of publicity, should send a message. But they dismiss them as entertainment elites and similar mindless meaningless drivel.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 15, 2024 15:16:35 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 15, 2024 15:22:43 GMT
What an utterly childish and moronic thing to say ...
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Post by LDE76 on Sept 15, 2024 15:24:26 GMT
Obvious slander notwithstanding, if the only thing Loomer had done in return for advancement was to perform fellatio, both her and her benefactors would be a thousand times better than they actually are.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 15, 2024 16:14:05 GMT
The absolute balls of these people!
Vance has just admitted that they made the whole thing up and now thinks he can justify it.
Hospitals are closed, schools are closed, libraries are closed, people are afraid to leave their homes as racist Proud Boys prowl the streets, all because of their lies.
This is the level of mentality of these people, they can't be let anywhere near the White House ...
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Sept 15, 2024 17:58:52 GMT
The absolute balls of these people! Vance has just admitted that they made the whole thing up and now thinks he can justify it. Hospitals are closed, schools are closed, libraries are closed, people are afraid to leave their homes as racist Proud Boys prowl the streets, all because of their lies. This is the level of mentality of these people, they can't be let anywhere near the White House ... Well we've had the era of post truth and we are now in the era of post lie. Even Orwell would have thought this too outlandish to publish.
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Post by hcstokie on Sept 15, 2024 19:07:48 GMT
Gunshots heard in his vicinity again apparently.
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Sept 15, 2024 19:11:24 GMT
The absolute balls of these people! Vance has just admitted that they made the whole thing up and now thinks he can justify it. Hospitals are closed, schools are closed, libraries are closed, people are afraid to leave their homes as racist Proud Boys prowl the streets, all because of their lies. This is the level of mentality of these people, they can't be let anywhere near the White House ... JD Vance has more decency and integrity than anyone on either ticket and this quote from CNN is taken massively out of context.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Sept 15, 2024 19:21:37 GMT
The absolute balls of these people! Vance has just admitted that they made the whole thing up and now thinks he can justify it. Hospitals are closed, schools are closed, libraries are closed, people are afraid to leave their homes as racist Proud Boys prowl the streets, all because of their lies. This is the level of mentality of these people, they can't be let anywhere near the White House ... JD Vance has more decency and integrity than anyone on either ticket and this quote from CNN is taken massively out of context. There are not enough 'laughing face emoji's' in the world for this one. You poor, poor thing.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Sept 15, 2024 19:22:09 GMT
Gunshots heard in his vicinity again apparently. 'Break glass in case of emergency'
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Post by elystokie on Sept 15, 2024 19:36:03 GMT
Gunshots heard in his vicinity again apparently. Probably his own security team 🤔
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Post by LDE76 on Sept 15, 2024 19:42:20 GMT
JD Vance has more decency and integrity than anyone on either ticket and this quote from CNN is taken massively out of context. There are not enough 'laughing face emoji's' in the world for this one. You poor, poor thing. You mean comparing Trump to Hitler and then becoming his running mate, promulgating blatant lies about Haitian immigrants and claiming that you wouldn't have certified the 2020 election results aren't examples of decency or integrity?
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Post by LDE76 on Sept 15, 2024 19:44:11 GMT
Gunshots heard in his vicinity again apparently. Sounds like Taylor Swift just found out that he hates her.
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Sept 15, 2024 19:50:10 GMT
There are not enough 'laughing face emoji's' in the world for this one. You poor, poor thing. You mean comparing Trump to Hitler and then becoming his running mate, promulgating blatant lies about Haitian immigrants and claiming that you wouldn't have certified the 2020 election results aren't examples of decency or integrity? Mainstream media went through his entire life looking for things to throw out negatively and all they could find was a sarcastic comment about cats and the idea that he's 'weird'. He has explained at length why he changed his position re Trump, more than once.
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Post by LDE76 on Sept 15, 2024 20:11:13 GMT
You mean comparing Trump to Hitler and then becoming his running mate, promulgating blatant lies about Haitian immigrants and claiming that you wouldn't have certified the 2020 election results aren't examples of decency or integrity? Mainstream media went through his entire life looking for things to throw out negatively and all they could find was a sarcastic comment about cats and the idea that he's 'weird'. He has explained at length why he changed his position re Trump, more than once. He's already doubled down on the pet-eating bullshit. He claimed that he wouldn't have certified the 2020 election results until new electors had been submitted, so he has no problem undermining democracy. He said he didn't care what happens to Ukraine. Yeah, what a thoroughly decent guy.
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Sept 15, 2024 20:13:58 GMT
Mainstream media went through his entire life looking for things to throw out negatively and all they could find was a sarcastic comment about cats and the idea that he's 'weird'. He has explained at length why he changed his position re Trump, more than once. He's already doubled down on the pet-eating bullshit. He claimed that he wouldn't have certified the 2020 election results until new electors had been submitted, so he has no problem undermining democracy. He said he didn't care what happens to Ukraine. Yeah, what a thoroughly decent guy. I wondered if someone would mention Ukraine 😂
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 15, 2024 20:17:46 GMT
The real cat killers ...
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 15, 2024 20:18:57 GMT
You mean comparing Trump to Hitler and then becoming his running mate, promulgating blatant lies about Haitian immigrants and claiming that you wouldn't have certified the 2020 election results aren't examples of decency or integrity? Mainstream media went through his entire life looking for things to throw out negatively and all they could find was a sarcastic comment about cats and the idea that he's 'weird'. He has explained at length why he changed his position re Trump, more than once. What 'sarcastic comment about cats' is that?
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Sept 15, 2024 20:20:24 GMT
There are not enough 'laughing face emoji's' in the world for this one. You poor, poor thing. You mean comparing Trump to Hitler and then becoming his running mate, promulgating blatant lies about Haitian immigrants and claiming that you wouldn't have certified the 2020 election results aren't examples of decency or integrity? I mean it's a tight call...
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Sept 15, 2024 20:21:41 GMT
Mainstream media went through his entire life looking for things to throw out negatively and all they could find was a sarcastic comment about cats and the idea that he's 'weird'. He has explained at length why he changed his position re Trump, more than once. What 'sarcastic comment about cats' is that? He was making a point about the importance of family/having kids and made a crack about cat ladies. It was a few years ago
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Post by LDE76 on Sept 15, 2024 20:22:42 GMT
He's already doubled down on the pet-eating bullshit. He claimed that he wouldn't have certified the 2020 election results until new electors had been submitted, so he has no problem undermining democracy. He said he didn't care what happens to Ukraine. Yeah, what a thoroughly decent guy. I wondered if someone would mention Ukraine 😂 That amuses you? I mean, it's certainly in keeping with someone who has a strange concept of "decency". You also seem to be avoiding the bit about certifying the election.
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