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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 15, 2024 20:32:30 GMT
What 'sarcastic comment about cats' is that? He was making a point about the importance of family/having kids and made a crack about cat ladies. It was a few years ago Ah right, nothing to do with spreading false stories about immigrants eating cats, which as a direct result, has led to school and hospital closures then?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 15, 2024 21:12:27 GMT
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Post by elystokie on Sept 15, 2024 21:15:01 GMT
Like he actually wrote a book š
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 15, 2024 21:19:11 GMT
I've gone for the $3,300 option (recurring), which option will you go for? š¤¦āāļø
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 15, 2024 21:27:59 GMT
Disgusting. How anyone can celebrate murdering these beautiful creatures is beyond me.
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Post by elystokie on Sept 15, 2024 22:00:25 GMT
Mad as a box of frogs last night but wont change his support just like Farage fans here. What amazes me is his healing power not even a scar on his ear????? That'll be because he's the son of God š¤£ What he needs after last night is to be taking an innocent walk alone around a park one evening when he gets attacked by a couple of knife wielding maniacs (probably brown) and single handedly fights them off. Or even better, an angel turns up to give him a hand š¤ Watch this space.. š It's getting closer... š
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Post by musik on Sept 15, 2024 22:13:49 GMT
Facts? that heās an idiot? Iām not debating re his financial mistakes or that heās not a particularly nice person Iām just saying heās not an idiot because letās be fair heās achieved a lot more than you and I have (not all good by any means). All iām saying is itās in the eyes of the beholder as to what an idiot is and shouldnāt be governed by politics. On the subject of idiocy my wife thinks iām one for spending way to much time on a messageboard talking waffle that has zero impact on anyone elseās life so on that note Iām off. You are debating his financial dealings, indeed it was you who started it by suggesting he couldn't be a billionaire if he was an idiot. I've demonstrated to you that you can be. There's plenty of idiots walking this earth who have 'achieved' more than you and I, I really don't see how that's a credible criteria for not being one. It's impossible for a person to be an idiot, if they've 'achieved' more in life than Cobs or Paul ... OK. To me "achieve" has nothing to do with money or power, quite the opposite actually.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 15, 2024 22:51:51 GMT
You are debating his financial dealings, indeed it was you who started it by suggesting he couldn't be a billionaire if he was an idiot. I've demonstrated to you that you can be. There's plenty of idiots walking this earth who have 'achieved' more than you and I, I really don't see how that's a credible criteria for not being one. It's impossible for a person to be an idiot, if they've 'achieved' more in life than Cobs or Paul ... OK. To me "achieve" has nothing to do with money or power, quite the opposite actually. Absolutely muzik, I couldn't agree with you more, that's why I deliberately put the specific word in quotes. I was quoting somebody else's definition.
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Post by musik on Sept 15, 2024 23:15:19 GMT
To me "achieve" has nothing to do with money or power, quite the opposite actually. Absolutely muzik, I couldn't agree with you more, that's why I deliberately put the specific word in quotes. I was quoting somebody else's definition. I know. Nighty! š“
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 15, 2024 23:35:56 GMT
Facts? that heās an idiot? Iām not debating re his financial mistakes or that heās not a particularly nice person Iām just saying heās not an idiot because letās be fair heās achieved a lot more than you and I have (not all good by any means). All iām saying is itās in the eyes of the beholder as to what an idiot is and shouldnāt be governed by politics. On the subject of idiocy my wife thinks iām one for spending way to much time on a messageboard talking waffle that has zero impact on anyone elseās life so on that note Iām off. You are debating his financial dealings, indeed it was you who started it by suggesting he couldn't be a billionaire if he was an idiot. I've demonstrated to you that you can be. There's plenty of idiots walking this earth who have 'achieved' more than you and I, I really don't see how that's a credible criteria for not being one. It's impossible for a person to be an idiot, if they've 'achieved' more in life than Cobs or Paul ... OK. So basically an idiot is anyone we chose to call an idiot based on our own personal views or opinion. So what one person may think is an idiot another may not. As they say itās all in the eyes of the beholder.
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 15, 2024 23:37:16 GMT
USA a nation of incompetent gun owners.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 16, 2024 1:25:59 GMT
You are debating his financial dealings, indeed it was you who started it by suggesting he couldn't be a billionaire if he was an idiot. I've demonstrated to you that you can be. There's plenty of idiots walking this earth who have 'achieved' more than you and I, I really don't see how that's a credible criteria for not being one. It's impossible for a person to be an idiot, if they've 'achieved' more in life than Cobs or Paul ... OK. So basically an idiot is anyone we chose to call an idiot based on our own personal views or opinion. So what one person may think is an idiot another may not. As they say itās all in the eyes of the beholder. Nope, it isn't a beauty contest. An idiot can be defined by what they say and do.
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Post by serpico on Sept 16, 2024 6:28:54 GMT
Imagine being nearly 80 and wanting to be president and deal with all the stresses that come with it! And in trumps case having multiple attempts on his life! ā¦ say what you want about him but the bloke is built differently, in many ways you have to admire the his tenacity even if its driven by narcissism or ego.
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 16, 2024 6:35:43 GMT
Imagine being nearly 80 and wanting to be president and deal with all the stresses that come with it! And in trumps case having multiple attempts on his life! ā¦ say what you want about him but the bloke is built differently, in many ways you have to admire the his tenacity even if its driven by narcissism or ego. A large part of his desire to be President is it is his best defence against spending time in jail.
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Post by elystokie on Sept 16, 2024 7:23:44 GMT
Quite intriguing š¤
Seems Egypt's dictator bought a $10 million lottery ticket and won $1.4 billion š
As always with Trump, something stinks š¤®
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Post by spitshaw on Sept 16, 2024 17:09:07 GMT
Imagine being nearly 80 and wanting to be president and deal with all the stresses that come with it! And in trumps case having multiple attempts on his life! ā¦ say what you want about him but the bloke is built differently, in many ways you have to admire the his tenacity even if its driven by narcissism or ego. A large part of his desire to be President is it is his best defence against spending time in jail. I'd even say it's 100% of the reason. If he wins in November, all three of his outstanding criminal trials will essentially disappear. If he loses he will face the music and more than likely be found guilty in all three. It's huge for him, which is why he's becoming increasingly unhinged as the polls are shifting. There's nothing to admire - he's a coward with a lifetime of escaping the consequences of his awful and often criminal actions and he will happily burn the entire country to the ground if it means he can avoid prison
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 16, 2024 18:39:20 GMT
Simply dreadful what he and Vance have unleashed down there and all so completelyunnecessary ...
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Post by OldStokie on Sept 16, 2024 19:15:30 GMT
I'm not one for conspiracy theories but I think the Trump camp may have found a martyr to try and offset his TV debate thrashing. The incompetence of the alleged *assassin* is beyond ludicrous. The promise of a speedy pardon if Trump was elected may have been a bargaining chip.
I think I'm going mad saying these words but I wouldn't put anything past Trump and his crazy acolytes.
OS.
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Post by Tom_stokiepmre89 on Sept 16, 2024 21:07:45 GMT
Amazing how conspiracy theories become credible to the side usually using āconspiracy theoristā as an insult, when the theories happen to align with their worldviews and narratives.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 16, 2024 22:10:36 GMT
Amazing how conspiracy theories become credible to the side usually using āconspiracy theoristā as an insult, when the theories happen to align with their worldviews and narratives. Trump had fund raising emails, reporting that he had survived the 'attack', ready to go, just 10 mins after the news broke. That isn't a conspiracy theory, it's a fact. Now whether you believe that that is just coincidence, or wonder if there might actually be something more to it, is open to debate.
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Post by Tom_stokiepmre89 on Sept 16, 2024 23:27:19 GMT
Amazing how conspiracy theories become credible to the side usually using āconspiracy theoristā as an insult, when the theories happen to align with their worldviews and narratives. Trump had fund raising emails, reporting that he had survived the 'attack', ready to go, just 10 mins after the news broke. That isn't a conspiracy theory, it's a fact. Now whether you believe that that is just coincidence, or wonder if there might actually be something more to it, is open to debate. Never said I donāt think thereās legs to that particular theory. Although there are posters on this board whoāve outright decided the first incident was a hoax concocted by the trump camp. My point is a general observation that āconspiracy theoristā is a slur thatās largely been used by the left to ridicule the right; but now there are plenty of people on the left willing to die on hills when it suits.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 17, 2024 1:30:46 GMT
Trump had fund raising emails, reporting that he had survived the 'attack', ready to go, just 10 mins after the news broke. That isn't a conspiracy theory, it's a fact. Now whether you believe that that is just coincidence, or wonder if there might actually be something more to it, is open to debate. Never said I donāt think thereās legs to that particular theory. Although there are posters on this board whoāve outright decided the first incident was a hoax concocted by the trump camp. My point is a general observation that āconspiracy theoristā is a slur thatās largely been used by the left to ridicule the right; but now there are plenty of people on the left willing to die on hills when it suits.
Fair enough, Tom.
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Post by elystokie on Sept 17, 2024 6:03:36 GMT
Trump had fund raising emails, reporting that he had survived the 'attack', ready to go, just 10 mins after the news broke. That isn't a conspiracy theory, it's a fact. Now whether you believe that that is just coincidence, or wonder if there might actually be something more to it, is open to debate. Never said I donāt think thereās legs to that particular theory. Although there are posters on this board whoāve outright decided the first incident was a hoax concocted by the trump camp. My point is a general observation that āconspiracy theoristā is a slur thatās largely been used by the left to ridicule the right; but now there are plenty of people on the left willing to die on hills when it suits. Surely, in his position, it would be to his advantage to ensure the scar from the shooting was widely visible, if only to remove any doubt whatsoever? Has he done that? Can you see any evidence of a scar? I can't find any close up images of it š¤ Given that he lies about everything, absolutely everything, is it really that much of a stretch to doubt this?
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Sept 17, 2024 6:58:37 GMT
I'm not one for conspiracy theories but I think the Trump camp may have found a martyr to try and offset his TV debate thrashing. The incompetence of the alleged *assassin* is beyond ludicrous. The promise of a speedy pardon if Trump was elected may have been a bargaining chip. I think I'm going mad saying these words but I wouldn't put anything past Trump and his crazy acolytes. OS. Going mad.....? šš
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Post by Tom_stokiepmre89 on Sept 17, 2024 8:13:42 GMT
Never said I donāt think thereās legs to that particular theory. Although there are posters on this board whoāve outright decided the first incident was a hoax concocted by the trump camp. My point is a general observation that āconspiracy theoristā is a slur thatās largely been used by the left to ridicule the right; but now there are plenty of people on the left willing to die on hills when it suits. Surely, in his position, it would be to his advantage to ensure the scar from the shooting was widely visible, if only to remove any doubt whatsoever? Has he done that? Can you see any evidence of a scar? I can't find any close up images of it š¤ Given that he lies about everything, absolutely everything, is it really that much of a stretch to doubt this? Itās possible that the first incident is a trump camp conspiracy, but this no scar logic is completely flawed. If Trumpās team had choreographed this, do you really think theyād be incompetent enough not to either use cosmetics to make a visible scar, or, more likely and much more easily, just surgically injure Trump to create a real scar? In a weird way, this apparent lack of a scar that you guys are running with almost makes it less likely itās a team trump orchestrated conspiracy! Iām not ruling it out because I enjoy a good conspiracy theory, but if weāre going with one here then itās that this was a genuine botched assassination attempt, and the apparent incompetence of the authorities was actually deliberate. The military-industrial complexes across the western world absolutely do not want trump to win. Both these theories are of course less likely than the simplest explanation; which is that it was just a deranged lone gunman who fluffed his lines under pressure + some incompetence from the security team.
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Post by lordb on Sept 17, 2024 8:22:08 GMT
Surely, in his position, it would be to his advantage to ensure the scar from the shooting was widely visible, if only to remove any doubt whatsoever? Has he done that? Can you see any evidence of a scar? I can't find any close up images of it š¤ Given that he lies about everything, absolutely everything, is it really that much of a stretch to doubt this? Itās possible that the first incident is a trump camp conspiracy, but this no scar logic is completely flawed. If Trumpās team had choreographed this, do you really think theyād be incompetent enough not to either use cosmetics to make a visible scar, or, more likely and much more easily, just surgically injure Trump to create a real scar? In a weird way, this apparent lack of a scar that you guys are running with almost makes it less likely itās a team trump orchestrated conspiracy! Iām not ruling it out because I enjoy a good conspiracy theory, but if weāre going with one here then itās that this was a genuine botched assassination attempt, and the apparent incompetence of the authorities was actually deliberate. The military-industrial complexes across the western world absolutely do not want trump to win. Both these theories are of course less likely than the simplest explanation; which is that it was just a deranged lone gunman who fluffed his lines under pressure + some incompetence from the security team. 'do you really think theyād be incompetent enough ' never underestimate incompetence
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Post by elystokie on Sept 17, 2024 8:44:02 GMT
Surely, in his position, it would be to his advantage to ensure the scar from the shooting was widely visible, if only to remove any doubt whatsoever? Has he done that? Can you see any evidence of a scar? I can't find any close up images of it š¤ Given that he lies about everything, absolutely everything, is it really that much of a stretch to doubt this? Itās possible that the first incident is a trump camp conspiracy, but this no scar logic is completely flawed. If Trumpās team had choreographed this, do you really think theyād be incompetent enough not to either use cosmetics to make a visible scar, or, more likely and much more easily, just surgically injure Trump to create a real scar? In a weird way, this apparent lack of a scar that you guys are running with almost makes it less likely itās a team trump orchestrated conspiracy! Iām not ruling it out because I enjoy a good conspiracy theory, but if weāre going with one here then itās that this was a genuine botched assassination attempt, and the apparent incompetence of the authorities was actually deliberate. The military-industrial complexes across the western world absolutely do not want trump to win. Both these theories are of course less likely than the simplest explanation; which is that it was just a deranged lone gunman who fluffed his lines under pressure + some incompetence from the security team. So d'you think they've actually used plastic surgery to mask the scar or d'you think it's possible a bullet grazing the ear didn't leave one. They gaslit the Western world for 80 years over cannabis, only now is the truth coming out. I think doubting this is perfectly reasonable, I'm not claiming it was definitely staged, I just don't trust them in the slightest and I'm mystified somewhat by the scar business.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 17, 2024 8:57:50 GMT
Itās possible that the first incident is a trump camp conspiracy, but this no scar logic is completely flawed. If Trumpās team had choreographed this, do you really think theyād be incompetent enough not to either use cosmetics to make a visible scar, or, more likely and much more easily, just surgically injure Trump to create a real scar? In a weird way, this apparent lack of a scar that you guys are running with almost makes it less likely itās a team trump orchestrated conspiracy! Iām not ruling it out because I enjoy a good conspiracy theory, but if weāre going with one here then itās that this was a genuine botched assassination attempt, and the apparent incompetence of the authorities was actually deliberate. The military-industrial complexes across the western world absolutely do not want trump to win. Both these theories are of course less likely than the simplest explanation; which is that it was just a deranged lone gunman who fluffed his lines under pressure + some incompetence from the security team. So d'you think they've actually used plastic surgery to mask the scar or d'you think it's possible a bullet grazing the ear didn't leave one. They gaslit the Western world for 80 years over cannabis, only now is the truth coming out. I think doubting this is perfectly reasonable, I'm not claiming it was definitely staged, I just don't trust them in the slightest and I'm mystified somewhat by the scar business. So what was the plan for the conspiracy. Lets get some mug to take the shot asking him to just take his ear lobe off and don't worry if you shoot some poor fella in the face behind him because when you've taken that shot we're gonna shoot you in the face straight after. Obviously they didn't tell the shooter the last bit or he might not have done it š Maybe the bullet just caught the underside of his ear lobe so bled a little but in reality it was literally a scratch. And trump walking around with a massive bandage on for a few days was just political optics. Seems more plausible to me.
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Post by elystokie on Sept 17, 2024 9:06:34 GMT
So d'you think they've actually used plastic surgery to mask the scar or d'you think it's possible a bullet grazing the ear didn't leave one. They gaslit the Western world for 80 years over cannabis, only now is the truth coming out. I think doubting this is perfectly reasonable, I'm not claiming it was definitely staged, I just don't trust them in the slightest and I'm mystified somewhat by the scar business. So what was the plan for the conspiracy. Lets get some mug to take the shot asking him to just take his ear lobe off and don't worry if you shoot some poor fella in the face behind him because when you've taken that shot we're gonna shoot you in the face straight after. Obviously they didn't tell the shooter the last bit or he might not have done it š Maybe the bullet just caught the underside of his ear lobe so bled a little but in reality it was literally a scratch. And trump walking around with a massive bandage on for a few days was just political optics. Seems more plausible to me. It didn't bleed a little, blood was all over his face, I'm just surprised/suspicious more hasn't been made of it from their side on the ear damage front. Maybe they'll prove me wrong and get someone to verify it live on TV, very simple for FOX or the like to do, there's surely some sort of mark, he's nearly 80, things heal slowly at that age. Unless you're the son of god, obviously..
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 17, 2024 9:16:07 GMT
I'm not one for conspiracy theories but I think the Trump camp may have found a martyr to try and offset his TV debate thrashing. The incompetence of the alleged *assassin* is beyond ludicrous. The promise of a speedy pardon if Trump was elected may have been a bargaining chip. I think I'm going mad saying these words but I wouldn't put anything past Trump and his crazy acolytes. OS. Awful, isn't it, that we've collectively reached this stage where you can't help but question anything that goes on around that man. I agree with you, OS, I'm very much not one for conspiracies at all, but the timing and inconsistency around this event is very odd. Bloke apparently just turns up at Trump's golf course on the off chance that he might decide to play an unannounced game there. One report says he was hiding in bushes and a secret service agent spotted a rifle barrel poking out from said bushes. Really? You wouldn't make sure your rifle barrel wasn't exposed if you were about to shoot the ex president? Another report says it was spotted poking through a chain link fence...which is it? Shots fired towards Trump in some reports, not in others. And of course, he turns it instantly into "they won't silence me" and "give me more money"... Very strange.
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