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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 17, 2024 6:08:20 GMT
The US will get very sad later when it’s not being asked to hold people’s hands. For generations, it’s been the big boy on the block. If the big boy wants to go inside and play with his PS5, he shouldn’t be surprised when he returns to find his friends have found someone else to hide behind while they throw shit at the kids on the next block. The last thing a narcissist like Trump would want is to have people turn around and say “yeah, we don’t need you anymore”. It would crush the GOP if military spending was cut as well and why do you need fortunes spent on the military if you aren’t the one people keep running to with all their problems anymore? Who can anyone else hide behind. In the last war Europe had no one to hide behind and it rolled over like a puppy haning its belly tickled. In case it escaped your attention This country didn’t roll over and have its belly tickled both my uncles didn’t spend six years away from there family rolling over And what did our greatest alleged allies do exactly what the did In the First World War sat on there arses turned up late as usual And then had the nerve to charge us for the privilege
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Post by stiggerstackle on Jul 17, 2024 7:21:30 GMT
The US will get very sad later when it’s not being asked to hold people’s hands. For generations, it’s been the big boy on the block. If the big boy wants to go inside and play with his PS5, he shouldn’t be surprised when he returns to find his friends have found someone else to hide behind while they throw shit at the kids on the next block. The last thing a narcissist like Trump would want is to have people turn around and say “yeah, we don’t need you anymore”. It would crush the GOP if military spending was cut as well and why do you need fortunes spent on the military if you aren’t the one people keep running to with all their problems anymore? Who can anyone else hide behind. In the last war Europe had no one to hide behind and it rolled over like a puppy haning its belly tickled. That might possibly be the most ignorant and offensive post I've ever read on here.
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Post by toppercorner on Jul 17, 2024 7:43:41 GMT
Great. A Putinist VP. I read his book. It's shocking that it's the same guy. In the book he describes a situation for his area a lot like what Stoke's gone through, it's really sympathetic. Surprised me to see him flip completely and join the side trying to throw his own people on the fire. the more i read about this guy, the more his appointment seem extremely concerning. just so angry! however, some of the trump fanbase don't like him because his wife is Indian, and his kids have indian names, the left don't like him because he flip flopped on his views, a lot of women don't like him because of his views on abortion and domestic violence ... but he does seem popular. The question is to whom has been parachuted in to appease?
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Post by gawa on Jul 17, 2024 7:47:20 GMT
Who can anyone else hide behind. In the last war Europe had no one to hide behind and it rolled over like a puppy haning its belly tickled. That might possibly be the most ignorant and offensive post I've ever read on here. Pretty sure desman is ex military so doubt he's intentionally trying to cause any offense. Maybe just poorly worded
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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 17, 2024 7:49:23 GMT
Dividing people, breaking the UK away from Europe, the US turning on allies, it's almost like there's an inside job by Farage and Trump to destroy the west.
Why did Farage go over to the US to see Trump? Was it to make sure he doesn't shy away from the plan? Who knows. It feels like the west is on the verge of breaking up.
What we should be doing is pushing for a united states of Europe, if we want to keep peace we need to join with Europe and build a European army. We can't rely on the US anymore, they are drifting away which leaves us and Europe vulnerable
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Post by gawa on Jul 17, 2024 7:51:21 GMT
Who can anyone else hide behind. In the last war Europe had no one to hide behind and it rolled over like a puppy haning its belly tickled. My guess would be China, who are just sitting there waiting to launch a massive media campaign on how they are actually very good guys (aided by all but the US). Cue millions of bots and positive news stories. Do you personally think China is particularly bad or as bad as portrayed? Taking into account our own crimes from the west (thinking more wikileaks not what bbc news tell you). I believe your in laws are Asian and possibly Chinese so presume you have a bit of insight?
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Post by oggyoggy on Jul 17, 2024 7:52:01 GMT
The US will get very sad later when it’s not being asked to hold people’s hands. For generations, it’s been the big boy on the block. If the big boy wants to go inside and play with his PS5, he shouldn’t be surprised when he returns to find his friends have found someone else to hide behind while they throw shit at the kids on the next block. The last thing a narcissist like Trump would want is to have people turn around and say “yeah, we don’t need you anymore”. It would crush the GOP if military spending was cut as well and why do you need fortunes spent on the military if you aren’t the one people keep running to with all their problems anymore? Who can anyone else hide behind. In the last war Europe had no one to hide behind and it rolled over like a puppy haning its belly tickled. That is an incredibly ignorant comment. Go and educate yourself
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Post by skip on Jul 17, 2024 8:49:48 GMT
My guess would be China, who are just sitting there waiting to launch a massive media campaign on how they are actually very good guys (aided by all but the US). Cue millions of bots and positive news stories. Do you personally think China is particularly bad or as bad as portrayed? If I may piggyback this question, I have students who produce work for their real portfolios under a pseudonym as they are shit scared of producing work that demonstrates any kind of pro-western and/or freedom of thought for fear of what will happen to them if they don't get study visa extensions to stay in the UK or continue to study at post-grad level in the US. If that tells you anything about the place.
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Post by skip on Jul 17, 2024 8:54:02 GMT
the more i read about this guy, the more his appointment seem extremely concerning. just so angry! however, some of the trump fanbase don't like him because his wife is Indian, and his kids have indian names, the left don't like him because he flip flopped on his views, a lot of women don't like him because of his views on abortion and domestic violence ... but he does seem popular. The question is to whom has been parachuted in to appease? He's an ultra Conservative misogynist isolationist shit bag presented as the saviour of the US rust belt working class. He doesn't give two fucks about Western Europe and is nowhere near as intellectually smart as he is being portrayed. Lined up by Trump as a successor to his fucked up brand of anti-intellectual values.
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Post by wannabee on Jul 17, 2024 9:26:12 GMT
Who can anyone else hide behind. In the last war Europe had no one to hide behind and it rolled over like a puppy haning its belly tickled. In case it escaped your attention This country didn’t roll over and have its belly tickled both my uncles didn’t spend six years away from there family rolling over And what did our greatest alleged allies do exactly what the did In the First World War sat on there arses turned up late as usual And then had the nerve to charge us for the privilege WW1 was essentially a dispute among a bunch of interrelated Privileged Families who wanted to protect their own wealth and sphere of influence. The UK populace hadn't quite shaken off its serfdom and class mentality so "did its duty" and were slaughtered while being "led by Donkeys" The only positive outcome was the elimination of the Royal households in most Countries, sadly not the UK. In large part WW11 emanated from WW1 and a Madman had to be stopped. If the Bald Eagle hadn't belatedly entered the fray most likely you would be speaking German today. As they say History has a habit of repeating itself and while Europe including UK hand wring because Russia and another Madman allegedly poses an existential threat with an Economy a fraction of the size, it looks across the Pond to be bailed out.
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Post by wannabee on Jul 17, 2024 9:31:41 GMT
the more i read about this guy, the more his appointment seem extremely concerning. just so angry! however, some of the trump fanbase don't like him because his wife is Indian, and his kids have indian names, the left don't like him because he flip flopped on his views, a lot of women don't like him because of his views on abortion and domestic violence ... but he does seem popular. The question is to whom has been parachuted in to appease? He's an ultra Conservative misogynist isolationist shit bag presented as the saviour of the US rust belt working class. He doesn't give two fucks about Western Europe and is nowhere near as intellectually smart as he is being portrayed. Lined up by Trump as a successor to his fucked up brand of anti-intellectual values. Nail on the head
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Post by serpico on Jul 17, 2024 9:39:42 GMT
I’m not convinced trump is enough of a threat to the establishment for them to want to take him out, only his possible detente with Russia would really piss off the military industrial complex and deep state, he’s already been president and didn’t do anything very radical or majorly different to previous presidents and by the end of his presidency lots of his base were pissed off with him!
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Post by gawa on Jul 17, 2024 9:56:04 GMT
She's defo Trumps nadine dories
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Post by gawa on Jul 17, 2024 9:58:37 GMT
I’m not convinced trump is enough of a threat to the establishment for them to want to take him out, only his possible detente with Russia would really piss off the military industrial complex and deep state, he’s already been president and didn’t do anything very radical or majorly different to previous presidents and by the end of his presidency lots of his base were pissed off with him! You don't become leader of the republican elite by being anti establishment. Man born with a golden spoon in his mouth is very much the establishment. Like you said he's been president and not done much different to his predeccesors. Talks about draining the swamp but let's epstein "commit suicide" under his watch. Nah not having it. But maybe I'm wrong. Who knows.
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Post by starkiller on Jul 17, 2024 10:12:38 GMT
I’m not convinced trump is enough of a threat to the establishment for them to want to take him out, only his possible detente with Russia would really piss off the military industrial complex and deep state, he’s already been president and didn’t do anything very radical or majorly different to previous presidents and by the end of his presidency lots of his base were pissed off with him! People fail to realise the limitations of the role of president, including Trump himself. There are levels above. I guess Trump could, or any other president could, throw a spanner in some of the workings by deviating from the usual banker war machine agendas, but all it does is slow it down a little. The elite get their way eventually. The president is not absolute power at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2024 11:07:06 GMT
My guess would be China, who are just sitting there waiting to launch a massive media campaign on how they are actually very good guys (aided by all but the US). Cue millions of bots and positive news stories. Do you personally think China is particularly bad or as bad as portrayed? Taking into account our own crimes from the west (thinking more wikileaks not what bbc news tell you). I believe your in laws are Asian and possibly Chinese so presume you have a bit of insight? I believe that Xi Jinxing ran on a platform of anti-corruption and from my conversations with family back in China, it’s something that people feel he has done well in. I am sure that it still exists but at the local levels, businesses etc have been able to do better without having to pay off politicians. Do I believe that China is this ultimate bad guy? No. Do I believe that they’d like to take control? Yes, though I don’t believe they’d want to invade countries to do it. I’d personally be surprised if they did invade Taiwan. They are simply buying up as much land as possible and looking to exert political pressure any way that they can. Are they a surveillance state? I would say more than the US, yes. People are very cautious about speaking out against the Govt. Do they engage in illegal stealing of foreign technologies? I think they do it on a larger scale. As a country, China is just much harsher. Fewer social programs, less interest in pulling everyone up. It’s the norm to have multi-generational homes not necessarily because of house prices but because of the idea of having someone else care for your elderly relative is shameful. The mandatory reeducation, labor and sterilization camps for the Uyghur Muslims do not paint China in a good light and highlight a major xenophobic stance for non-conformists.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2024 11:18:13 GMT
She's defo Trumps nadine dories MTG called the entire DNC “the party of paedophilia”. She thinks that gays and transgender people have “unnatural thoughts”. She’s liked comments on social media that have said that Pelosi should “get a bullet to the head”. She wants to install a Christian Govt, despite it explicitly stating that the Govt shouldn’t belong to a religion. Ah, then you have her accusing Obama of being a closet Muslim, stating unfounded accusations about politicians being murderers and questioning the events of 9/11: www.nytimes.com/2021/01/29/us/politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-republicans.htmlUnity 😂 The Times isn’t the problem. MTG is. She can’t open her mouth without insulting someone.
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Post by LDE76 on Jul 17, 2024 11:26:35 GMT
She's defo Trumps nadine dories MTG called the entire DNC “the party of paedophilia”. She thinks that gays and transgender people have “unnatural thoughts”. She’s liked comments on social media that have said that Pelosi should “get a bullet to the head”. She wants to install a Christian Govt, despite it explicitly stating that the Govt shouldn’t belong to a religion. Ah, then you have her accusing Obama of being a closet Muslim, stating unfounded accusations about politicians being murderers and questioning the events of 9/11: www.nytimes.com/2021/01/29/us/politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-republicans.htmlUnity 😂 The Times isn’t the problem. MTG is. She can’t open her mouth without insulting someone. The splenetic sack of ordure will soon shut up once the Jews fire up their space-laser.
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Post by dutchstokie on Jul 17, 2024 11:38:22 GMT
She's defo Trumps nadine dories Come on now gawa......you would wouldnt you....?
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Post by gawa on Jul 17, 2024 12:45:03 GMT
She's defo Trumps nadine dories Come on now gawa......you would wouldnt you....? Always been a fan of a bit of crazy! 😁
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Post by foster on Jul 17, 2024 13:05:36 GMT
She's defo Trumps nadine dories She's right to an extent though. You only have to see how the left label people on here. Screeching racist, fascist, etc. I don't like Trump, but I'm fed up of people labelling others that are concerned about a clear issue that's right under our noses.
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Post by Goonie on Jul 17, 2024 13:46:35 GMT
She's defo Trumps nadine dories The Times That infamous agitprop leftwing Marxist rag lol
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 17, 2024 13:46:38 GMT
She's defo Trumps nadine dories She doesn't DESTROY her at all. To have destroyed her, she would have had to put up a credible argument to the journos question, which she entirely avoids and instead deflects to a completely different topic and simply talks over the journo when she attempts to bring her back to the point. She has got zero interest in having a civilised conversation and would much rather reinforce to her audience, the mantra, that the (as she calls) 'problem' lies with the media and the deep state, rather than with the rhetoric of dangerous fuckwits like Vance. It's classic manipulation, she doesn't like having to answer the question, so instead, attacks the person asking it.
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Post by Goonie on Jul 17, 2024 13:49:21 GMT
Last 50 years and 4 previous attempts on former/sitting presidents
Loose gun control Kennedy both shot and killed Ford luckily escaped being shot Reagan shot Trump shot
Tight gun control Prescott egged
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 17, 2024 13:56:20 GMT
Last 50 years and 4 previous attempts on former/sitting presidents Loose gun control Kennedy both shot and killed Ford luckily escaped being shot Reagan shot Trump shot Tight gun control Prescott egged And Farage milkshaked. Ban dairy products and we are good.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 17, 2024 14:39:30 GMT
She's defo Trumps nadine dories She's right to an extent though. You only have to see how the left label people on here. Screeching racist, fascist, etc. I don't like Trump, but I'm fed up of people labelling others that are concerned about a clear issue that's right under our noses. or in some cases cu*?s
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 17, 2024 14:43:25 GMT
In case it escaped your attention This country didn’t roll over and have its belly tickled both my uncles didn’t spend six years away from there family rolling over And what did our greatest alleged allies do exactly what the did In the First World War sat on there arses turned up late as usual And then had the nerve to charge us for the privilege WW1 was essentially a dispute among a bunch of interrelated Privileged Families who wanted to protect their own wealth and sphere of influence. The UK populace hadn't quite shaken off its serfdom and class mentality so "did its duty" and were slaughtered while being "led by Donkeys" The only positive outcome was the elimination of the Royal households in most Countries, sadly not the UK. In large part WW11 emanated from WW1 and a Madman had to be stopped. If the Bald Eagle hadn't belatedly entered the fray most likely you would be speaking German today. As they say History has a habit of repeating itself and while Europe including UK hand wring because Russia and another Madman allegedly poses an existential threat with an Economy a fraction of the size, it looks across the Pond to be bailed out. I remember reading Vera Brittain's a Testament of Experience which takes in WW2 whilst her husband George Catlin was a Political Scientist at Cornell. Quite a strong view amongst the American public that he reported on in his contemporaneous letters home was that 'Europe' was for centuries forever squabbling and at war amongst themselves and probably always would be so didn't really see the point in getting involved again.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2024 14:55:57 GMT
She's right to an extent though. You only have to see how the left label people on here. Screeching racist, fascist, etc. I don't like Trump, but I'm fed up of people labelling others that are concerned about a clear issue that's right under our noses. or in some cases cu*?s I think I’d rather be called a c*nt or a racist than a paedophile to be honest. Unity is a wonderful angle for the Republicans to take. Let’s simply forget calling the entire DNC a ring of paedophiles. Water under the bridge. I don’t believe in “fighting fire with fire” but I think it’s a ridiculous notion for people like multimillionaire conspiracy nut MTG to come out and play the victim of public opinion.
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Post by stokeson on Jul 17, 2024 14:59:47 GMT
She's defo Trumps nadine dories She's right to an extent though. You only have to see how the left label people on here. Screeching racist, fascist, etc. I don't like Trump, but I'm fed up of people labelling others that are concerned about a clear issue that's right under our noses. Well Screeching Racist ,Homophobic,Facist enablers would say that?
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Post by starkiller on Jul 17, 2024 15:01:38 GMT
I wouldn’t have a son right now if it wasn’t for IVF. It wasn’t covered by insurance and cost us $45k. We now have the challenging decision of what to do with the remaining eggs that were fertilized. That should be our decision. The pressures Republicans have placed in Alabama is disgusting. The State should not get involved in what is a very challenging and personal decision. As for him opposing abortion for those raped, well that just shows you what an inhumane bastard he is. It’s truly disgusting. So backwards. Why any woman would vote for these cunts is beyond me. No quite the truth, but now the kickback on the other side.
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