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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jul 15, 2024 18:32:03 GMT
Is this the case where Joey B has done the same thing but been declared mentally unfit to stand trial π God bless the USA πΊπΈ
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Post by skip on Jul 15, 2024 18:44:08 GMT
Itβs very difficult in a moment like that to know how to react. Both the crowd and Trump would have so much going through their minds and people do strange things when in shock. I think a little leeway should be afforded to those people. No matter what you thoughts are politically and of Trump this kind of incident should be seen for what it is, attempted murder in full view of the world. Horrific and my thoughts are with the victims families. Absolutely. Violence is the antithesis of democracy Trump is a disruptor to the normal equilibrium of US politics and when a system is disrupted there are in and unintended consequences He nearly caused a coup detat The french philosopher Baudrillard once said that Disneyland is there to hide the fact America is Disneyland. If he were alive today would he be saying American politics has become a Hollywood soap opera? May I take this opportunity to applaud you for the bringing of Baudrillard, and specifically his deconstruction of Disneyland, into the Oatcake.
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Post by wannabee on Jul 15, 2024 19:00:16 GMT
Interesting that Farage who was going to shake up UK Politics and be a thorn in Labours side is on his way to US to attend the Republican Convention rather than attend the Kings Speech which sets the Government Agenda for the next 5 years and is debated immediately after and for a number of days.
He will possibly bump into a familiar face as Liz Truss is also attending
I understand the MAGA speech circuit can be quite lucrative. I'm sure the people of Clacton fully understand Farage's need to be in US rather than working in his constituency. At least the folks in South West Norfolk had to good sense to tell Liz to Foxtrot Oscar
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2024 19:02:56 GMT
Is this the case where Joey B has done the same thing but been declared mentally unfit to stand trial π God bless the USA πΊπΈ I think that the context is slightly different given that Trump was knowingly flaunting state secrets to guests of his villa.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jul 15, 2024 19:04:55 GMT
Is this the case where Joey B has done the same thing but been declared mentally unfit to stand trial π God bless the USA πΊπΈ I think that the context is slightly different given that Trump was knowingly flaunting state secrets to guests of his villa. You're disturbing my fishing trip π£ π
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jul 15, 2024 19:06:39 GMT
Interesting that Farage who was going to shake up UK Politics and be a thorn in Labours side is on his way to US to attend the Republican Convention rather than attend the Kings Speech which sets the Government Agenda for the next 5 years and is debated immediately after and for a number of days. He will possibly bump into a familiar face as Liz Truss is also attendingΒ I understand the MAGA speech circuit can be quite lucrative. I'm sure the people of Clacton fully understand Farage's need to be in US rather than working in his constituency. At least the folks in South West Norfolk had to good sense to tell Liz to Foxtrot OscarΒ The people of Clacton who voted for Farage will indeed fully understand
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Post by wannabee on Jul 15, 2024 19:16:20 GMT
Absolutely. Violence is the antithesis of democracy Trump is a disruptor to the normal equilibrium of US politics and when a system is disrupted there are in and unintended consequences He nearly caused a coup detat The french philosopher Baudrillard once said that Disneyland is there to hide the fact America is Disneyland. If he were alive today would he be saying American politics has become a Hollywood soap opera? May I take this opportunity to applaud you for the bringing of Baudrillard, and specifically his deconstruction of Disneyland, into the Oatcake. Hyperreality innit
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 15, 2024 19:24:00 GMT
Is this the case where Joey B has done the same thing but been declared mentally unfit to stand trial π God bless the USA πΊπΈ I think that the context is slightly different given that Trump was knowingly flaunting state secrets to guests of his villa. Precisely.
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Post by lordb on Jul 15, 2024 19:25:19 GMT
Interesting that Farage who was going to shake up UK Politics and be a thorn in Labours side is on his way to US to attend the Republican Convention rather than attend the Kings Speech which sets the Government Agenda for the next 5 years and is debated immediately after and for a number of days. He will possibly bump into a familiar face as Liz Truss is also attendingΒ I understand the MAGA speech circuit can be quite lucrative. I'm sure the people of Clacton fully understand Farage's need to be in US rather than working in his constituency. At least the folks in South West Norfolk had to good sense to tell Liz to Foxtrot OscarΒ The people of Clacton who voted for Farage will indeed fully understand Come on, it's a (utterly predictable) own goal He's going to be a terrible MP, spending little time in parliament and far less time addressing constituency concerns
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 15, 2024 19:29:42 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jul 15, 2024 19:31:33 GMT
The people of Clacton who voted for Farage will indeed fully understand Come on, it's a (utterly predictable) own goal He's going to be a terrible MP, spending little time in parliament and far less time addressing constituency concerns Not at all . Early days. His relationship might prove to be very important. His constituents understand where he is coming from. Only his opponents constantly moan. A bit small minded. Perhaps we should be more concerned about the constituencies who have MPs based upon the Middle East. Anyway the obsession with Farage is admirable I wouldn't worry too much about it, bigger things are happening
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 15, 2024 20:48:29 GMT
Trumpβs Vice President candidate.
Absolute mentalist.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Jul 15, 2024 21:03:53 GMT
Trumpβs Vice President candidate. Absolute mentalist. Treat yourself to Sky News for 10 minutes right now. I will never, ever complain about 'hustings' or 'party conferences' ever again.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2024 21:32:14 GMT
Trumpβs Vice President candidate. Absolute mentalist. I wouldnβt have a son right now if it wasnβt for IVF. It wasnβt covered by insurance and cost us $45k. We now have the challenging decision of what to do with the remaining eggs that were fertilized. That should be our decision. The pressures Republicans have placed in Alabama is disgusting. The State should not get involved in what is a very challenging and personal decision. As for him opposing abortion for those raped, well that just shows you what an inhumane bastard he is.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 15, 2024 21:44:37 GMT
Trumpβs Vice President candidate. Absolute mentalist. I wouldnβt have a son right now if it wasnβt for IVF. It wasnβt covered by insurance and cost us $45k. We now have the challenging decision of what to do with the remaining eggs that were fertilized. That should be our decision. The pressures Republicans have placed in Alabama is disgusting. The State should not get involved in what is a very challenging and personal decision. As for him opposing abortion for those raped, well that just shows you what an inhumane bastard he is. Itβs truly disgusting. So backwards. Why any woman would vote for these cunts is beyond me.
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Post by Goonie on Jul 15, 2024 21:47:21 GMT
Absolutely. Violence is the antithesis of democracy Trump is a disruptor to the normal equilibrium of US politics and when a system is disrupted there are in and unintended consequences He nearly caused a coup detat The french philosopher Baudrillard once said that Disneyland is there to hide the fact America is Disneyland. If he were alive today would he be saying American politics has become a Hollywood soap opera? May I take this opportunity to applaud you for the bringing of Baudrillard, and specifically his deconstruction of Disneyland, into the Oatcake. Thank you. I was rather worried it was an all too common trope but I think I got away with it π
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 15, 2024 21:48:57 GMT
I wouldnβt have a son right now if it wasnβt for IVF. It wasnβt covered by insurance and cost us $45k. We now have the challenging decision of what to do with the remaining eggs that were fertilized. That should be our decision. The pressures Republicans have placed in Alabama is disgusting. The State should not get involved in what is a very challenging and personal decision. As for him opposing abortion for those raped, well that just shows you what an inhumane bastard he is. Itβs truly disgusting. So backwards. Why any woman would vote for these cunts is beyond me. The reproductive rights issue did for the Republicans at the last election - massive own goal. As you say this will make a lot of women think twice about voting for Trump.
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Post by wannabee on Jul 15, 2024 22:36:18 GMT
Come on, it's a (utterly predictable) own goal He's going to be a terrible MP, spending little time in parliament and far less time addressing constituency concerns Not at all . Early days. His relationship might prove to be very important. His constituents understand where he is coming from. Only his opponents constantly moan. A bit small minded. Perhaps we should be more concerned about the constituencies who have MPs based upon the Middle East. Anyway the obsession with Farage is admirable I wouldn't worry too much about it, bigger things are happening But you are eluding and misrepresenting and you can't possibly say you can speak for the voters in Clacton Nigel Farage immediately after his Election said on X "I asked the voters of Clacton to send me to Westminster to be a bloody nuisance. That's exactly what I intend to do" But that is exactly what he's not going to do by being absent from Westminster The Independent MPs who were elected on a platform to try and alter UKs Policy towards Israel/Gaza Conflict will be in Westminster to fulfil the mandate they received
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Post by mtrstudent on Jul 16, 2024 0:27:28 GMT
Great. A Putinist VP. I read his book. It's shocking that it's the same guy. In the book he describes a situation for his area a lot like what Stoke's gone through, it's really sympathetic. Surprised me to see him flip completely and join the side trying to throw his own people on the fire.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jul 16, 2024 5:57:59 GMT
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Post by Veritas on Jul 16, 2024 6:58:04 GMT
Itβs truly disgusting. So backwards. Why any woman would vote for these cunts is beyond me. The reproductive rights issue did for the Republicans at the last election - massive own goal. As you say this will make a lot of women think twice about voting for Trump. I am afraid the US election which was already as almost as good as over is now completely done.
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Post by Gods on Jul 16, 2024 7:32:04 GMT
The reproductive rights issue did for the Republicans at the last election - massive own goal. As you say this will make a lot of women think twice about voting for Trump. I am afraid the US election which was already as almost as good as over is now completely done. I agree. I think the Democrats were done with or without Biden and whether or not this spotty adolescent shinned up a roof top and winged the Don with a couple of pot shots. Voters believe Trump has the best interests of the USA at heart so the court cases, the minutiae of policy and everything else is just background noise.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 16, 2024 7:53:07 GMT
The reproductive rights issue did for the Republicans at the last election - massive own goal. As you say this will make a lot of women think twice about voting for Trump. I am afraid the US election which was already as almost as good as over is now completely done. Given the twists and turns I can't see how anyone can claim it's a done deal one way or the other.
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Post by Veritas on Jul 16, 2024 8:35:20 GMT
I am afraid the US election which was already as almost as good as over is now completely done. Given the twists and turns I can't see how anyone can claim it's a done deal one way or the other. So far I have seen only turns all of which unfortunately have been in the direction of Trump
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Jul 16, 2024 8:45:20 GMT
Given the twists and turns I can't see how anyone can claim it's a done deal one way or the other. So far I have seen only turns all of which unfortunately have been in the direction of Trump I tend to agree. Chaos only seems to benefit Trump.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2024 8:57:06 GMT
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Post by gawa on Jul 16, 2024 10:03:24 GMT
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Post by LDE76 on Jul 16, 2024 10:14:01 GMT
And when people come back with "TDS" as some kind of lazy handwave, they ignore the fact that it's never been just about Trump. It's also about those he emboldens, enables and places in positions of power, some of them exhibiting the symptoms of general derangement syndrome.
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Post by Veritas on Jul 16, 2024 10:28:54 GMT
I am afraid the US election which was already as almost as good as over is now completely done. I agree. I think the Democrats were done with or without Biden and whether or not this spotty adolescent shinned up a roof top and winged the Don with a couple of pot shots. Voters believe Trump has the best interests of the USA at heart so the court cases, the minutiae of policy and everything else is just background noise. Trump is a dangerous narcissist who only has the best interests of himself at heart.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 16, 2024 10:43:03 GMT
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