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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 9, 2024 10:58:09 GMT
A president should be between 18 to 30 considering all the travelling they'll have to do. It's not just utterly boring, but extremely tiredsome as well. I haven't been anywhere after 30, thank God! When I was 18 I was bored to death by a 3 hour car ride. I dunno how Greta Thunberg does it when travelling even more slowly. Why, how does she get around? Horse and buggy? š
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Feb 9, 2024 11:00:39 GMT
You need to get out more Would you if people kept pestering you to touch your aura? š Depends entirely on how fit she was š
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Post by Northy on Feb 9, 2024 13:58:05 GMT
You need to get out more Would you if people kept pestering you to touch your aura? š he's probably an ex sun dodger (submariner for those who don't know), afraid of the light and open spaces
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Post by elystokie on Feb 9, 2024 14:24:33 GMT
Would you if people kept pestering you to touch your aura? š Depends entirely on how fit she was š I was a waiter in a bingo hall when I was much younger, I had my arse 'fondled' quite often š³ usually when I was bending over serving drinks at an adjacent table and sadly almost always by women old enough to be my Gran š There's a couple of very attractive Witnesses tout their business near the local shops to be fair š¤
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Post by Northy on Feb 9, 2024 14:26:57 GMT
A president should be between 18 to 30 considering all the travelling they'll have to do. It's not just utterly boring, but extremely tiredsome as well. I haven't been anywhere after 30, thank God! When I was 18 I was bored to death by a 3 hour car ride. I dunno how Greta Thunberg does it when travelling even more slowly. perhaps an electric car as Sweden is nearly 50% hydro powered, plus all the other renewables they have, far more advanced than us here.
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Post by OldStokie on Feb 9, 2024 20:15:36 GMT
I wonder what insults Trump would throw at President Roosevelt because he was in a wheelchair. We all know he would... the scumball.
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Post by LDE76 on Feb 9, 2024 22:41:41 GMT
I wonder what insults Trump would throw at President Roosevelt because he was in a wheelchair. We all know he would... the scumball. OS. As evidenced by him mocking that disabled New York Times reporter in front of a live audience. Classless piece of shit.
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 9, 2024 23:06:27 GMT
I wonder what insults Trump would throw at President Roosevelt because he was in a wheelchair. We all know he would... the scumball. OS. He absolutely would, yes. Though, theyād probably high-five over their mutual hatred of Mexicans first (though to be fair, most of the forced removal of US citizens of Mexican ancestry was done by FDRās predecessor).
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 9, 2024 23:12:30 GMT
I wonder what insults Trump would throw at President Roosevelt because he was in a wheelchair. We all know he would... the scumball. OS. As evidenced by him mocking that disabled New York Times reporter in front of a live audience. Classless piece of shit. This is up there with Trump said there's good people on both sides ie in the KKK and the claim he said all Mexicans are murderers and rapists. I don't like trump one bit but it really does no good to just repeat false narratives about him. He does enough anyway to prove he's a dick. Yeah you'll post a video and it doesn't look good with that reporter. But its not true. Look into it further. Plenty of evidence from previous exchanges where he uses the exact same mannerisms. People are catching onto the many lies told about him and its changing their views in a way you won't like. Those that hate him should stick to the real bad shit he does and has done. There's plenty of it.
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 9, 2024 23:45:58 GMT
As evidenced by him mocking that disabled New York Times reporter in front of a live audience. Classless piece of shit. This is up there with Trump said there's good people on both sides ie in the KKK and the claim he said all Mexicans are murderers and rapists. I don't like trump one bit but it really does no good to just repeat false narratives about him. He does enough anyway to prove he's a dick. Yeah you'll post a video and it doesn't look good with that reporter. But its not true. Look into it further. Plenty of evidence from previous exchanges where he uses the exact same mannerisms. People are catching onto the many lies told about him and its changing their views in a way you won't like. Those that hate him should stick to the real bad shit he does and has done. There's plenty of it. As someone who lives in Charlottesville, he absolutely said that there were very fine people on both sides when talking about the riot that saw KKK and other scum walking through my streets chanting āJews will not replace us, put them in the ovenā and which left poor Heather Heyer (and 2 emergency service staff) dead. His bullshit balancing act of a speech was deplorable. Trying to say that the counter protestors were anywhere near as bad as scum walking through and doing that, thereās simply no defence. "You also had some very fine people on both sides," Trump said in 2017. "You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down, of to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name. You had people -- and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists; they should be condemned totally -- you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists." "Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people but you also had troublemakers and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets and with the baseball bats. You had a lot of bad people in the other group, too," Trump said. That weekend, there was scum on one side with tiki torches and others who decided that they didnāt want that in their city.
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Post by LDE76 on Feb 10, 2024 0:45:09 GMT
As evidenced by him mocking that disabled New York Times reporter in front of a live audience. Classless piece of shit. This is up there with Trump said there's good people on both sides ie in the KKK and the claim he said all Mexicans are murderers and rapists. I don't like trump one bit but it really does no good to just repeat false narratives about him. He does enough anyway to prove he's a dick. Yeah you'll post a video and it doesn't look good with that reporter. But its not true. Look into it further. Plenty of evidence from previous exchanges where he uses the exact same mannerisms. People are catching onto the many lies told about him and its changing their views in a way you won't like. Those that hate him should stick to the real bad shit he does and has done. There's plenty of it. Trump claimed: "I have no idea who this reporter, Serge Kovalski [sic], is, what he looks like or his level of intelligence...If Mr. Kovaleski is handicapped, I would not know because I do not know what he looks like. If I did know, I would definitely not say anything about his appearance." Trump had actually met and spoken to him on several occasions over a period of six years and the two of them had been on first-name terms. It's hardly unreasonable to conclude that he was indeed aware of Kovaleski's condition (Kovaleski himself says he's certain of it). I've seen some of the footage which Trump's supporters put forward as evidence that it's just his normal way of making fun of people and while I accept that there may well be clips I haven't seen, the stuff I have viewed isn't the same as that from the 2015 rally. Even if it was, it doesn't prove Trump's version of events; it simply demonstrates that he behaves like an arse wherever he goes. You can argue that his actions have been misinterpreted, but there's enough circumstantial evidence with which counter the assertion that people are just telling lies. www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/08/02/donald-trumps-revisionist-history-of-mocking-a-disabled-reporter/I do agree, however, that this doesn't make much difference in the grand scheme of things. I was simply responding, briefly, to someone else's post.
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Post by wannabee on Feb 10, 2024 2:28:03 GMT
I wonder what insults Trump would throw at President Roosevelt because he was in a wheelchair. We all know he would... the scumball. OS. He absolutely would, yes. Though, theyād probably high-five over their mutual hatred of Mexicans first (though to be fair, most of the forced removal of US citizens of Mexican ancestry was done by FDRās predecessor). Yes Hoover Scapegoated Mexicans during the Great Depression both as the cause and solution to a problem Its what Politicians do, which is to create a xenophobic climate to distract from their own ineptitude. Desperate people are swayed to believe this false narrative .... does this conjure any modern day Parallels? It is estimated between 1 to 2 Million were deported many actually US Citizens. The number is difficult to verify as many voluntarily emigrated as opportunities were better in Mexico than US at that time
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Post by wannabee on Feb 10, 2024 3:54:07 GMT
As evidenced by him mocking that disabled New York Times reporter in front of a live audience. Classless piece of shit. This is up there with Trump said there's good people on both sides ie in the KKK and the claim he said all Mexicans are murderers and rapists.I don't like trump one bit but it really does no good to just repeat false narratives about him. He does enough anyway to prove he's a dick. Yeah you'll post a video and it doesn't look good with that reporter. But its not true. Look into it further. Plenty of evidence from previous exchanges where he uses the exact same mannerisms. People are catching onto the many lies told about him and its changing their views in a way you won't like. Those that hate him should stick to the real bad shit he does and has done. There's plenty of it. If you want to split hairs and use semantics The City Council of Charlottesville voted to remove the Statue of Robert E Lee a Confederate General who fought to preserve Slavery as it didn't reflect the opinions of Charlottesville in the present time. Unite the Right Organised a white supremacist rally that took place in Charlottesville and was attended by neo-Confederates, neo-fascists, white nationalists, neo-Nazis, KKK and far-right militias. During the rally groups chanted racist and antisemitic slogans and carried weapons, Nazi and neo-Nazi symbols, the Valknut, Confederate battle flags, Deus vult crosses, flags, and other symbols of various past and present antisemitic and anti-Islamic groups.The organizers' stated goals included the unification of the American white nationalist movement and A Counter protest was organised by local Charlottesville-based network of activists and clergy members called Solidarity Cville (not related to the poster on this MB as far as I know) to protest the interference by White Supremacist in a decision taken by the Charlottesville City Council Trump's remarks after the Murder of Heather Heyer and injuring 35 others when James Fields a self confessed neo Nazi drive his car indiscriminately into a group of Counter Protesters, was "There were very fine people on both sides" If your contention is that Trump was misrepresented I'd love to know how. Trump's own attempt to distance himself from the remark was to falsely claim there were Citizens of Charlottesville who objected to the removal of the Statue, there weren't In his opening speech to launch his re-election campaign in 2017 Trump said āThey are not our friend (Mexicans ) believe me. Theyāre bringing drugs. Theyāre bringing crime. Theyāre rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.ā If you think this minor qualification means Trump didn't demonise all Mexicans especially to his MAGA Support you are deluded.
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Post by lordb on Feb 10, 2024 8:43:01 GMT
This is up there with Trump said there's good people on both sides ie in the KKK and the claim he said all Mexicans are murderers and rapists.I don't like trump one bit but it really does no good to just repeat false narratives about him. He does enough anyway to prove he's a dick. Yeah you'll post a video and it doesn't look good with that reporter. But its not true. Look into it further. Plenty of evidence from previous exchanges where he uses the exact same mannerisms. People are catching onto the many lies told about him and its changing their views in a way you won't like. Those that hate him should stick to the real bad shit he does and has done. There's plenty of it. If you want to split hairs and use semantics The City Council of Charlottesville voted to remove the Statue of Robert E Lee a Confederate General who fought to preserve Slavery as it didn't reflect the opinions of Charlottesville in the present time. Unite the Right OrganisedĀ a white supremacistĀ rally that took place in Charlottesville and was attended by neo-Confederates, neo-fascists, white nationalists, neo-Nazis,Ā KKK and far-right militias. During the rally groups chanted racist and antisemitic slogans and carried weapons, Nazi and neo-Nazi symbols, the Valknut, Confederate battle flags, Deus vult crosses, flags, and other symbols of various past and present antisemitic and anti-Islamic groups.The organizers' stated goals included the unification of the American white nationalist movement andĀ A Counter protest was organised by local Charlottesville-based network of activists and clergy members called Solidarity Cville (not related to the poster on this MB as far as I know) to protest the interference by White Supremacist in a decision taken by the Charlottesville City CouncilĀ Trump's remarks after the Murder of Heather Heyer and injuring 35 others when James Fields a self confessed neo Nazi drive his car indiscriminately into a group of Counter Protesters, was "There were very fine people on both sides"Ā If your contention is that Trump was misrepresented I'd love to know how. Trump's own attempt to distance himself from the remark was to falsely claim there were Citizens of Charlottesville who objected to the removal of the Statue, there weren'tĀ In his opening speech to launch his re-election campaign in 2017 Trump saidĀ āThey are not our friend (Mexicans ) believe me. Theyāre bringing drugs. Theyāre bringing crime. Theyāre rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.ā If you think this minor qualification means Trump didn't demonise all Mexicans especially to his MAGA Support you are deluded. Used to wonder how a seemingly civilised sophisticated country like Germany could end up being enthralled by Hitler and the Nazis Donāt wonder anymore not directly comparing Trump to Hitler - he hasn't the ideological zeal - but am comparing the process where millions convince themselves that the monster in front of them is somehow being mistreated
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Post by roylandstoke on Feb 10, 2024 9:02:46 GMT
Trump could propose the incarceration of all Muslims, and the reintroduction of slavery, and still receive the unwavering, unquestioning support of his fans.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 11, 2024 0:55:29 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 11, 2024 7:42:25 GMT
He really is like a School yard bully in his attitude to life. Itās no wonder heās got to the top. He just doesnāt give a damn about anything or anyone other than his own ego. Itās a pretty sad state of affairs when you look at the alternative. I canāt believe that thereās not better options around than Trump and Biden (Harris isnāt the answer).
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Post by questionable on Feb 11, 2024 10:49:46 GMT
This blokes insane, so encouraging Russia to attack NATO countries.
Whatever next drinking bleach as a way of combatting Covid
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Post by lordb on Feb 11, 2024 10:54:36 GMT
This blokes insane, so encouraging Russia to attack NATO countries. Whatever next drinking bleach as a way of combatting Covid In his head government is simply a series of financial transactions his argument that if a NATO state hadn't paid their x% then NATO should not assist them if attacked by Russia follows that very basic logic without any - literally zero - understanding of the implications (including financial ones) of following that logic The basic principle is that if one state is attacked we all suffer is simply not considered He is a complete moron
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Post by gawa on Feb 11, 2024 12:08:00 GMT
Wouldn't put it past Trump to ally up with Russia and North Korea against Europe.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Feb 11, 2024 12:11:39 GMT
Now, now. I think we should all reserve judgment until we've heard what Atillathehoneybee has to say on the matter as a self-confessed Trump fan.
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Post by wannabee on Feb 11, 2024 12:44:56 GMT
This blokes insane, so encouraging Russia to attack NATO countries. Whatever next drinking bleach as a way of combatting Covid In his head government is simply a series of financial transactions his argument that if a NATO state hadn't paid their x% then NATO should not assist them if attacked by Russia follows that very basic logic without any - literally zero - understanding of the implications (including financial ones) of following that logic The basic principle is that if one state is attacked we all suffer is simply not considered He is a complete moron Well characterised Narcissism is a Personality Disorder where a person craves attention and admiration from others. They also lack empathy towards others even supporters as they are inferior so therefore not worthy of consideration Trumps lack of character norms like honesty and decency means his only measure of success is Monetary Success. Many blame Trump for the deep divide in US Society but he is merely the instrument. Many Trump Supporters already had an animus towards minority and marginalised groups. They found a Political Home in Trumps rhetoric but the animus was already there and would almost certainly not have engaged in Political activity in his absence, a Cult if you wish. They also unconsciously believe in a very strange form of Trickle Down Economics. They see Trump as a successful businessman whose priority is America First. Their belief is that if America is successful their Tribe will be the beneficiaries. Many espouse the Frontier spirit of protecting and looking after their own, with arms if necessary and are very negative towards US becoming involved in other Countries Conflicts. Of course this is a generalisation but Trump has enough Focus Groups, Pollsters and Speechwriters to know which buttons to press.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 11, 2024 12:49:09 GMT
He really is like a School yard bully in his attitude to life. Itās no wonder heās got to the top. He just doesnāt give a damn about anything or anyone other than his own ego. Itās a pretty sad state of affairs when you look at the alternative. I canāt believe that thereās not better options around than Trump and Biden (Harris isnāt the answer). Listening to him Cobs and that is exactly what came into my mind. He has the intellect of a spoilt, (as you've said) primary school bully. How populism attracts so many voters, I have no idea, it's both sad and extremely frightening.
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Post by LDE76 on Feb 11, 2024 13:04:00 GMT
He really is like a School yard bully in his attitude to life. Itās no wonder heās got to the top. He just doesnāt give a damn about anything or anyone other than his own ego. Itās a pretty sad state of affairs when you look at the alternative. I canāt believe that thereās not better options around than Trump and Biden (Harris isnāt the answer). When you apply that to the wider word of American politics, you're left with a choice between a party that's becoming more despicable by the day and one that shoots itself in the foot more often than a centipede trying to avoid military service.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 11, 2024 13:11:04 GMT
He really is like a School yard bully in his attitude to life. Itās no wonder heās got to the top. He just doesnāt give a damn about anything or anyone other than his own ego. Itās a pretty sad state of affairs when you look at the alternative. I canāt believe that thereās not better options around than Trump and Biden (Harris isnāt the answer). Listening to him Cobs and that is exactly what came into my mind. He has the intellect of a spoilt, (as you've said) primary school bully. How populism attracts so many voters, I have no idea, it's both sad and extremely frightening. There are times when I think that the worlds gone mad when you look at the likes of Putin, Trump et al. The fact that theyāve got to where they are says as much for there people as it does them that theyāve managed to climb to the lofty position they are. Now Iām no fan of the likes of Corbyn either but somewhere there must be a healthy alternative where you have a strong leader but one who actually cares about its people and wants to be a leader for all the right reasons and not for there ego and greed.
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 11, 2024 13:18:52 GMT
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Feb 11, 2024 13:25:42 GMT
Coming from a man who himself dodged the draft.
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Post by oggyoggy on Feb 11, 2024 14:10:39 GMT
Trump is what you end up with if you have such a terribly undemocratic electoral system as in the States. He is scum. If he thought he could get away with it, he would be invading countries like Putin.
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Feb 11, 2024 16:30:10 GMT
Now, now. I think we should all reserve judgment until we've heard what Atillathehoneybee has to say on the matter as a self-confessed Trump fan. Its funny you should say that. I'm actually doing somewhat of a U Turn regarding The Don. Politically his term in office was a success, but I am beginning to think he is just a bit of a knob. So there u have it... I have turned... He will still get in though.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 11, 2024 18:26:36 GMT
Trump is what you end up with if you have such a terribly undemocratic electoral system as in the States. He is scum. If he thought he could get away with it, he would be invading countries like Putin. 100% š Trump gets one thing right though at least. American politics and world politics in general for that matter is a swamp. Full of unjustified millionaires like Biden and Pelosi. And plenty of republicans too. What he doesn't say however is that his vision of how it should be will be just as bad or likely worse. The now cliche saying of......trump is the symptom not the disease, is bang on in my opinion.
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