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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Oct 3, 2016 21:38:31 GMT
It's not bizarre at all. I've been a home and away fan for well over half a century and I'm not going for the reasons I explained in full on the other thread. Sometimes you have to look beyond the short term interests of your own club. Personally don't think it warrants being called everything wrong with the modern fan though Malcolm. I personally don't have an issue if people don't like the idea but why resort to that. I think it's an okay idea and well worth the experiment our youth football is suffering and has for decades I've not resorted to calling people football dinosaurs if they disagree. That was actually cast no shadow's phrase rather than mine, Dan,and I have clarified above that my main gripe is with the FL clubs, not with any fans who decide to go. But if I could speculate I think what CNS was probably getting at is that some of the arguments on the two threads have said that because it's in the interests of our Premier League club, that's all that matters, whereas those of us on the other side of the argument want to take a wider view. There is a feeling, which I share, that the modern Premier League and some of its 'modern' fans, do not always take the wider interests of the game sufficiently into account. Although I fully accept that the PL have not imposed this particular proposal on the FL clubs which could, and in my view should, have rejected it. |
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Post by MilanStokie on Oct 3, 2016 21:53:33 GMT
Is the preparation the same though mate? This is a competitive match that experience alone is worth something. Thats just it, how competitive is it? league teams losing 6-0 to Norwich academy who are bottom of the u23 groups. are many teams taking it seriously? the u23 groups are good for their development but more loans for those who are ready should have been organised. |
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Post by lancashirelad on Oct 3, 2016 22:00:04 GMT
Living in Lancashire I may well go tomorrow, I also went to Bradford.
This is because I want to see our younger players and at what level their at. If it was the youth cup I would also go if it was Morecambe youth. I do not get the chance to see our younger players at Leek or Clayton Woods.
I agree in principle that the competition is for EFL clubs and having been to Stokes finals know what a great day out it is.
The result does not matter and I do hope two EFL clubs reach the final.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 3, 2016 22:05:03 GMT
Is the preparation the same though mate? This is a competitive match that experience alone is worth something. Thats just it, how competitive is it? league teams losing 6-0 to Norwich academy who are bottom of the u23 groups. are many teams taking it seriously? the u23 groups are good for their development but more loans for those who are ready should have been organised. So one result?  |
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Post by MilanStokie on Oct 3, 2016 22:10:42 GMT
Thats just it, how competitive is it? league teams losing 6-0 to Norwich academy who are bottom of the u23 groups. are many teams taking it seriously? the u23 groups are good for their development but more loans for those who are ready should have been organised. So one result? There's more than 1 though isn't there? try taking a look... u23 teams should be blown off the park if it was taken seriously but 3 or 4 are getting results. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 3, 2016 22:11:51 GMT
So one result? There's more than 1 though isn't there? try taking a look... u23 teams should be blown off the park if it was taken seriously but 3 or 4 are getting results. Or maybe they're just yer know good and rising to the challenge? |
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Post by MilanStokie on Oct 3, 2016 22:15:34 GMT
There's more than 1 though isn't there? try taking a look... u23 teams should be blown off the park if it was taken seriously but 3 or 4 are getting results. Or maybe they're just yer know good and rising to the challenge? Bolton, Sheffield utd and Peterborough should be more than easily seeing off a bunch of teenagers. stop trying to invent stuff that's not there. the u23 teams should NOT be in this thing. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 3, 2016 22:18:02 GMT
Or maybe they're just yer know good and rising to the challenge? Bolton, Sheffield utd and Peterborough should be more than easily seeing off a bunch of teenagers. stop trying to invent stuff that's not there. the u23 teams should NOT be in this thing. They should and they didn't which suggests that maybe just maybe they are good and rose to the challenge. And highlights the poor mentality of the players at those clubs. |
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Post by luke45 on Oct 3, 2016 23:50:04 GMT
Living in Lancashire I may well go tomorrow, I also went to Bradford. This is because I want to see our younger players and at what level their at. If it was the youth cup I would also go if it was Morecambe youth. I do not get the chance to see our younger players at Leek or Clayton Woods. I agree in principle that the competition is for EFL clubs and having been to Stokes finals know what a great day out it is. The result does not matter and I do hope two EFL clubs reach the final. Agreed, I also attended the Bradford game for the reasons you've stated and I'll be at Morecambe tomorrow night as well, a rare 86 mile round trip for me from my house in Dalton in Furness which is comfortably the shortest journey I've made to watch a Stoke side for as long as I can remember! I hope the tournament format is revamped at the end of the season but whilst the opportunity is here I'm looking forward to watching our youngsters again and hopefully they will benefit from another strong test. |
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Post by MilanStokie on Oct 4, 2016 9:44:56 GMT
Bolton, Sheffield utd and Peterborough should be more than easily seeing off a bunch of teenagers. stop trying to invent stuff that's not there. the u23 teams should NOT be in this thing. They should and they didn't which suggests that maybe just maybe they are good and rose to the challenge. And highlights the poor mentality of the players at those clubs. Why does it suggest that more than the bigger teams not taking it seriously? apart from in your own delusional mind? |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 4, 2016 15:25:34 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 4, 2016 15:28:03 GMT
They should and they didn't which suggests that maybe just maybe they are good and rose to the challenge. And highlights the poor mentality of the players at those clubs. Why does it suggest that more than the bigger teams not taking it seriously? apart from in your own delusional mind? I haven't said that. Cup upsets happen...... What's so different here? |
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Post by MilanStokie on Oct 4, 2016 16:19:51 GMT
Why does it suggest that more than the bigger teams not taking it seriously? apart from in your own delusional mind? I haven't said that. Cup upsets happen...... What's so different here? the gap is massive. it's not your typical cup upset situation. the fact the competition makes bigger teams field 5 1st teamed knowing without it, it would be even worse. just to name a few |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 4, 2016 16:40:24 GMT
I haven't said that. Cup upsets happen...... What's so different here? the gap is massive. it's not your typical cup upset situation. the fact the competition makes bigger teams field 5 1st teamed knowing without it, it would be even worse. just to name a few The gap clearly isn't that big and that should be of encouragement to these kids and should give PL managers a boot up the arse. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 4, 2016 17:29:49 GMT
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Post by nutterpotter on Oct 4, 2016 17:50:28 GMT
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Post by nutterpotter on Oct 4, 2016 17:52:53 GMT
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Post by nutterpotter on Oct 4, 2016 17:58:46 GMT
Looks like it's actually Telford instead of N'Goy
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Oct 4, 2016 17:59:51 GMT
Great experience for our youngsters. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 4, 2016 18:02:19 GMT
Great experience for our youngsters. Good old Ton.....Hughes. |
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Post by Jimm on Oct 4, 2016 18:02:28 GMT
Absolute joke. What's the point when you have the seniors coming in who aren't good enough and halting your development.
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Post by WhyDelilah on Oct 4, 2016 18:17:17 GMT
No Sobhi??????
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Post by nutterpotter on Oct 4, 2016 18:21:48 GMT
He's with the Egypt squad |
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Post by jeycov on Oct 4, 2016 18:23:10 GMT
mmmn well spotted, would he be away on international l duty? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 4, 2016 18:25:34 GMT
He's injured, haven't you heard? |
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Post by block30row19 on Oct 4, 2016 18:31:49 GMT
Embarrassing that we are even in this competition.
As a Stoke fan good luck tonight.
Though I hope after this season this idea is put straight into the bin.
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Post by chamberlain on Oct 4, 2016 18:35:09 GMT
He's injured, haven't you heard? No he's only injured for prem games |
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Oct 4, 2016 18:36:56 GMT
This 'competition' is a joke. Two scots both aged 30, A 28 year old Senegalese, A 24 year old Spaniard and a 24 year old Dane in a team that is supposed to help our younger players develop.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2016 18:50:46 GMT
Not only will Stoke not give Ngoy a chance in the league cup, or in the Prem when we were playing awful, but now they are playing Diouf ahead of him in a competition that's supposed to be for our u23s... What a joke, if I was a player in our academy I would be asking to leave straight away.
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hes been put in instead of Telford... Still think it's poor from the management to be playing anyone over 23 in this competition, we aren't going to win so why not give the youngsters a chance
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Post by Matthews dad on Oct 4, 2016 18:50:51 GMT
1 down already
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