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Post by werrington on Mar 7, 2016 17:16:03 GMT
fair play to Pardew  This ^ not issue with the interview honest direct answers to the stock questions asked. Seriously mate ? He was rude, obnoxious, borderline threatening and above all else two faced in the fact he only sees what he wants too He's a twat |
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Post by Anto1962 on Mar 7, 2016 17:23:12 GMT
It does the majority of times, remember instances like Mary decker/Zola Budd, I've been clipped a few times when running and always gone over, your momentum is forward and the legsare already moving, there isn't a lot you can do about it. If you watch rugby week in week out and see the amount of tackles that are run through even with arms around ankles then its fairly obvious at full pelt going over isnt the only option. Granted there are times when people cant help hitting the deck, but in this instance with Benteke we are talking about who quite clearly cheated and dived. If you go over every time I suggest some gym leg work  H I watch Rugby quite a lot and I'm amazed you have used this as a example H. The amount of times I've seen a strapping forward bought down by the slightest try saving ankle tap while running at full pelt is unbelievable. Was it intentional ? No I don't think so, did he make contact ? Yes. I think the real debate is had he overrun the ball and whether the ref or linesman could have taken this into consideration. But he did make contact. |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Mar 7, 2016 17:32:51 GMT
No he wasn't and no it doesn't. Evidenced by the fact that he fell over after taking another step We assume diving is going over when there wasn't any contact, there was clearly contact whether it was an exagerated fall is the debate, if you can't see that there was contact then maybe you need to look at it again. Do you know I have looked at it on the video footage taken behind the goal line and there ain't conclusive evidence he was clipped IMO. If there are views which catagorically show a clip of the ankle I will stand corrected. This is a still of the video where Delaney is supposed to have clipped his ankle........ Attachment Deleted |
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Post by RAF on Mar 7, 2016 17:34:48 GMT
If you watch rugby week in week out and see the amount of tackles that are run through even with arms around ankles then its fairly obvious at full pelt going over isnt the only option. Granted there are times when people cant help hitting the deck, but in this instance with Benteke we are talking about who quite clearly cheated and dived. If you go over every time I suggest some gym leg work :) H If you watch rugby you'll no doubt have seen a winger at full pelt being brought down by an ankle-tap. Tap the trailing foot inwards as he's running and he trips himself up. It's incredibly satisfying to do! I played the game at a decent standard for a number of years, and for every tap tackle I saw come off, I saw 50 that didn't and the player carried on. H |
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Post by thepirehillpoet on Mar 7, 2016 18:18:10 GMT
If you watch rugby you'll no doubt have seen a winger at full pelt being brought down by an ankle-tap. Tap the trailing foot inwards as he's running and he trips himself up. It's incredibly satisfying to do! I played the game at a decent standard for a number of years, and for every tap tackle I saw come off, I saw 50 that didn't and the player carried on. That's because you wouldn't get anything for going down RAF other than having to release if held. Benteke had everything to gain by going down so he dived, he cheated to earn a penalty. I do feel however that following the Bloodgate fiasco, Rugby has nothing to teach Football other than technology for the 4th Ref. We both know that a bit of a cheat in Rugby is a part of the fabric of the game, over to Neil Back v Munster was it???? H |
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Post by thepirehillpoet on Mar 7, 2016 18:19:03 GMT
Sorry RAF, am shit at working this board.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Mar 7, 2016 18:36:26 GMT
We assume diving is going over when there wasn't any contact, there was clearly contact whether it was an exagerated fall is the debate, if you can't see that there was contact then maybe you need to look at it again. Do you know I have looked at it on the video footage taken behind the goal line and there ain't conclusive evidence he was clipped IMO. If there are views which catagorically show a clip of the ankle I will stand corrected. This is a still of the video where Delaney is supposed to have clipped his ankle........ View AttachmentPardew even said he caught him with his knee. Have you watched the video on the original link? |
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Post by ohbottom on Mar 7, 2016 18:36:54 GMT
If you watch rugby you'll no doubt have seen a winger at full pelt being brought down by an ankle-tap. Tap the trailing foot inwards as he's running and he trips himself up. It's incredibly satisfying to do! I played the game at a decent standard for a number of years, and for every tap tackle I saw come off, I saw 50 that didn't and the player carried on. H Well, obviously if the tap is missed then he's not going to go down I'm not saying that's what happened to Benteke, just pointing out that sometimes it really doesn't take much contact to bring a player down when he's running. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 7, 2016 22:36:37 GMT
I played the game at a decent standard for a number of years, and for every tap tackle I saw come off, I saw 50 that didn't and the player carried on. H Well, obviously if the tap is missed then he's not going to go down I'm not saying that's what happened to Benteke, just pointing out that sometimes it really doesn't take much contact to bring a player down when he's running. Agree. Put slightly off balance you will go flying |
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Post by RAF on Mar 8, 2016 11:04:20 GMT
I played the game at a decent standard for a number of years, and for every tap tackle I saw come off, I saw 50 that didn't and the player carried on. H Well, obviously if the tap is missed then he's not going to go down :) I'm not saying that's what happened to Benteke, just pointing out that sometimes it really doesn't take much contact to bring a player down when he's running. I'm not talking about missed tap tackles, I'm talking about the regularity in which they are run through even with decent contact. They are great when they come off, but in reality it doesn't happen as often as you would think. H |
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Post by Gods on Mar 8, 2016 13:42:53 GMT
No he wasn't and no it doesn't. Evidenced by the fact that he fell over after taking another step , there was clearly contact whether it was an exagerated fall is the debate, if you can't see that there was contact then maybe you need to look at it again. No we don't, well I don't anyway, diving is when you choose to fall over when the natural thing to do would be to remain on your feet  |
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Post by greyman on Mar 8, 2016 17:45:37 GMT
If you watch rugby week in week out and see the amount of tackles that are run through even with arms around ankles then its fairly obvious at full pelt going over isnt the only option. Granted there are times when people cant help hitting the deck, but in this instance with Benteke we are talking about who quite clearly cheated and dived. If you go over every time I suggest some gym leg work H If you watch rugby you'll no doubt have seen a winger at full pelt being brought down by an ankle-tap. Tap the trailing foot inwards as he's running and he trips himself up. It's incredibly satisfying to do! That's right. And they go over like a sack of shit, not in a graceful arc, twisting in mid air and screaming in pain. |
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Post by trigger on Mar 8, 2016 18:01:46 GMT
Well, obviously if the tap is missed then he's not going to go down I'm not saying that's what happened to Benteke, just pointing out that sometimes it really doesn't take much contact to bring a player down when he's running. Agree. Put slightly off balance you will go flying I remember breaking down on the M6 and a group of us standing on the top of the hill when we pulled over on the hard shoulder, my mate pushed a lad with his back to him, unknowingly the lad he pushed was having a wee, it was hilarious watching him rolling down the hill with his todge out spraying, classic. |
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Post by gregstokie on Mar 8, 2016 18:35:19 GMT
It would be great if the ref could use his discretion a bit in these situations without bias etc. Every penalty of this type of nature 'could' have made contact, he may/may not have over run the ball, he may have bla bla bla. But could they think? This striker is fooookin shyte - tick His team are desperate for a last min penalty - tick They've been theatrical cheating twats most the game- tick 'On balance of probabilities' is it likely that defender stopped Benteke getting a fair shot at goal opportunity or is Benteke being a potential Thundercnt Cock Womble Fcuk-pig? Well yes he is, no penalty given. .... thank you, we don't need rule rules  |
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Post by steve66 on Mar 8, 2016 19:16:37 GMT
The same carragher who questioned bojan after we got that penalty at Swansea. A penalty where not one manager or player complained!! Carragher a biased twat, I hate this right to go down business. Pardew is right palace wouldn't have got that. Is this the same carragher who got away with more penalty claims against him than I've had hot dinners!!??  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2016 7:11:03 GMT
Pardew is a smug twat when he wins and a horrible cunt when he loses. I take it you're not a fan? Nah not really |
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Post by werrington on Mar 11, 2016 21:38:38 GMT
You were saying Alan ?
What a fucking dive that was
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Post by GeneralFaye on Mar 11, 2016 21:40:13 GMT
Bolasie with a blatant dive and yet you get Mark fucking Lawrenson saying it was a penalty. The games gone.
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Mar 11, 2016 21:44:04 GMT
Let's see what pardew has to say about that then. Diving prick
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Mar 11, 2016 21:44:28 GMT
Absolutely fucking ridiculous ! Stupid bastard cheat.A red card too! Shitty shit ref.
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Post by werrington on Mar 11, 2016 21:44:56 GMT
Let's see what pardew has to say about that then. Diving prick Palace don't get those decisions apparently |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 11, 2016 21:45:39 GMT
Let's see what pardew has to say about that then. Diving prick It was a pen just for the sheer stupidity. |
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Post by lordb on Mar 11, 2016 21:46:46 GMT
Soft penalty maybe but that's a penalty.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Mar 11, 2016 21:47:13 GMT
No doubt Pardew will be at his patronising best, saying you win some you lose some. Now they've scored the second he may say it didn't matter in the end. Anyway it's all fucked up.
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Post by werrington on Mar 11, 2016 21:47:21 GMT
Let's see what pardew has to say about that then. Diving prick It was a pen just for the sheer stupidity. It was the same as the Liverpool one in Sunday If one was a pen they both were but it's the bollocks he spouts that makes him look daft |
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 11, 2016 21:47:48 GMT
Palace are one of if not the spawniest side in the country. They get loads of penalties and are generally shite. I can't be doing with them.
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Mar 11, 2016 21:50:05 GMT
Let's see what pardew has to say about that then. Diving prick It was a pen just for the sheer stupidity. Disagree, there is nowhere near enough contact of a bloke of 6ft to go down, he's not even got hold of his shirt |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 11, 2016 21:52:39 GMT
Soft penalty maybe but that's a penalty. I agree - soft as they come - but Bolasie WAS fouled and it was in the area so it was a penalty. Trouble is refs often don't give penalties in those circumstances so players go down to make it easier for cowardly refs to make the decision they should have made anyway. |
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Post by lordb on Mar 11, 2016 21:53:55 GMT
Just seen it again
I'm completely wrong
Total cheat
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Post by werrington on Mar 11, 2016 21:55:34 GMT
Soft penalty maybe but that's a penalty. I agree - soft as they come - but Bolasie WAS fouled and it was in the area so it was a penalty. Trouble is refs often don't give penalties in those circumstances so players go down to make it easier for cowardly refs to make the decision they should have made anyway. But so was Benteke mate Both players went down a little too easily but pardew won't be as vocal tonight |
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