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Post by Pugsley on Apr 9, 2015 22:12:09 GMT
Why haven't we had more than one England under 21 game at the ground since it opened? With its proximity to Burton surely it's an ideal location?
Answers on a postcard to Mr A Scholes, c/o the Shitannia Stadium.
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Post by StokieMatt on Apr 10, 2015 7:28:08 GMT
i take it back, with such high standard diplomacy skills you're presenting he will be sure to listen. you would need do a more in depth study; Ratio of them voters who don't have season tickets and will buy one if we have a corner. How many season tickets we have sold and if there is a waiting list which will require the extra 1500 seats, if so would it recoup the cost of the new seats? how many people would be interested in safe standing if that becomes legal in the next few years, which for all you know might be the plan which they wont put out in the press till it is legal. you writing a letter to Tony Scholes going 'ive got 200 people who want a new corner we demand answers' isnt going get very far, he probably wouldn't even read it all. Its fine I will prove you wrong mate. Get the 200 votes and I promise I will speak with Tony Scholes personally to ask these questions. Hes only Managing Director of a small company it's not like im requesting an audience with Barak Obama you sound like a politician saved you the hassle our average attendance is 27000 (600 short) 3100 short then some games on shit games we will have nearly 5000 empty seats, if we have a bad spell the fickle idiots wont turn up. so what you want is the extra 2500 seats, which we wont fill if we lose a few games on the bounce. id rather spend the few million on the squad
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Post by lordb on Apr 10, 2015 7:47:54 GMT
Its fine I will prove you wrong mate. Get the 200 votes and I promise I will speak with Tony Scholes personally to ask these questions. Hes only Managing Director of a small company it's not like im requesting an audience with Barak Obama you sound like a politician saved you the hassle our average attendance is 27000 (600 short) 3100 short then some games on shit games we will have nearly 5000 empty seats, if we have a bad spell the fickle idiots wont turn up. Incorrect. We will continue to have 600 short for vast majority of prem games regardless of whether the capacity is 28000, 30000,35000,25000 or 20000 for the reason (explained how many times now?)that it's nigh on impossible (for any club) to sell 100% of tickets because people do not want to sit on their own. This is not conjecture this is stone cold fact.
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Post by ohbottom on Apr 10, 2015 8:07:27 GMT
Its fine I will prove you wrong mate. Get the 200 votes and I promise I will speak with Tony Scholes personally to ask these questions. Hes only Managing Director of a small company it's not like im requesting an audience with Barak Obama you sound like a politician saved you the hassle our average attendance is 27000 (600 short) 3100 short then some games on shit games we will have nearly 5000 empty seats, if we have a bad spell the fickle idiots wont turn up. so what you want is the extra 2500 seats, which we wont fill if we lose a few games on the bounce. id rather spend the few million on the squad If that reasoning had been used when the Brit was built, it would have a capacity nearer 17k than 27k. Makes no sense to base the capacity of the ground on your current average attendance.
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Post by KevinWhimper on Apr 10, 2015 8:15:28 GMT
So blindingly obvious it hurts. Sadly I doubt the morons in charge of this kind of thing can work that out. To be fair our tickets are already among the cheapest in the league and good value. We need a bigger fanbase. Season tickets yes mate they are. It was 40 quid against Chelsea for a single. Hardly value for money.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Apr 10, 2015 8:30:27 GMT
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Post by StokieMatt on Apr 10, 2015 9:11:09 GMT
you sound like a politician saved you the hassle our average attendance is 27000 (600 short) 3100 short then some games on shit games we will have nearly 5000 empty seats, if we have a bad spell the fickle idiots wont turn up. Incorrect. We will continue to have 600 short for vast majority of prem games regardless of whether the capacity is 28000, 30000,35000,25000 or 20000 for the reason (explained how many times now?)that it's nigh on impossible (for any club) to sell 100% of tickets because people do not want to sit on their own. This is not conjecture this is stone cold fact. yeh, but when we are playing shit like parts of this season and last season we were 1000s short if you hit 200, are you going be doing an email interview or actually request a face to face interview?
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Post by lordb on Apr 10, 2015 11:24:35 GMT
Incorrect. We will continue to have 600 short for vast majority of prem games regardless of whether the capacity is 28000, 30000,35000,25000 or 20000 for the reason (explained how many times now?)that it's nigh on impossible (for any club) to sell 100% of tickets because people do not want to sit on their own. This is not conjecture this is stone cold fact. yeh, but when we are playing shit like parts of this season and last season we were 1000s short if you hit 200, are you going be doing an email interview or actually request a face to face interview? yeh, but when we are playing shit like parts of this season and last season we were 1000s short Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/242625/announce-filling-corner?page=6#ixzz3Wu6tbkON1000's short this season: really? once you factor out empty away section seats thats disputable Last season yes: & last season is the only season out of the last SIX seasons. the reason was due to S/T shortfall after sections of the fanbase were turned off the TP era. notably the empty seats were for games where prices were at at their maximum (e.g. Man City game early last season) which should show to anyone that even for 'attractive' oppositions if you ask for £47 people wont pay it. Given that ticket sales account for an increasingly tiny % of club revenue & given that TV is king it is abundantly clear that waht prem clubs need to do is,like German football,have big shiny stadiums full of vibrant football supporters. Stoke therefore NEED to keep TV happy therefore NEED to improve the stadium visually,NEED to increase the size of the stadium & NEED to keep it (98%) full. Can we afford to spend (£6m at most,previous indications have been £3.5m) on the scoreboard corner. yes of course we can. Can we fill that corner: not at £47 a ticket no siree Would it be (98%) full at £20 a ticket? of course it would. imho Stoke could (98%) fill a 35000 stadium IF PRICED CORRECTLY.
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Post by upthefud on Apr 10, 2015 12:21:23 GMT
They're here, they're there, they're every fucking where empty seats.
No thanks. Let's address the front of the house and come to this issue at the end of the 16/17 season.
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Post by Davef on Apr 10, 2015 13:31:20 GMT
They're here, they're there, they're every fucking where empty seats. No thanks. Let's address the front of the house and come to this issue at the end of the 16/17 season. "Front of house"? Christ.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2015 13:59:23 GMT
They're here, they're there, they're every fucking where empty seats. No thanks. Let's address the front of the house and come to this issue at the end of the 16/17 season. For the umpteenth time, if actually getting people to fill the seats is an issue, you offer kids for a quid, or give blocks away to schools, not difficult.
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Post by miggo on Apr 10, 2015 14:20:45 GMT
They're here, they're there, they're every fucking where empty seats. No thanks. Let's address the front of the house and come to this issue at the end of the 16/17 season. For the umpteenth time, if actually getting people to fill the seats is an issue, you offer kids for a quid, or give blocks away to schools, not difficult. Not sure that makes sense, of course over time it will pay for itself but kids for a quid or tickets to schools makes it an even longer drawn out process before your making money back Ts certainly won't like that plan. Add to that the atmosphere suddenly sounding like a one direction concert I say no thanks. I don't buy into this build it and they will come nonsense we simply won't sell the additional tickets all the time, I know plenty of people who pick and choose which games they attend throughout the season and other than the Leicester promotion game none have had an issue getting tickets for any game. I'm not convinced that we don't sell out every game is due to lack of seats and is more to do with the cost of attending games especially as a family in this area with a fairly large percentage of the cities populations working shifts who can't attend some games if they wanted too. Sent from my C6603 using proboards
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2015 21:00:25 GMT
For the umpteenth time, if actually getting people to fill the seats is an issue, you offer kids for a quid, or give blocks away to schools, not difficult. Not sure that makes sense, of course over time it will pay for itself but kids for a quid or tickets to schools makes it an even longer drawn out process before your making money back Ts certainly won't like that plan. Add to that the atmosphere suddenly sounding like a one direction concert I say no thanks. I don't buy into this build it and they will come nonsense we simply won't sell the additional tickets all the time, I know plenty of people who pick and choose which games they attend throughout the season and other than the Leicester promotion game none have had an issue getting tickets for any game. I'm not convinced that we don't sell out every game is due to lack of seats and is more to do with the cost of attending games especially as a family in this area with a fairly large percentage of the cities populations working shifts who can't attend some games if they wanted too. Sent from my C6603 using proboards We're talking a relatively small number of fans though, so it's not like 1,000 kids are going to make much noise. In terms of ROI, I'm not fussed about filling the corners for bums on seats, though that would be a bonus, I'm more concerned that our stadium still looks like the built-on-a-shoestring effort it always has. TS might have other ideas.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2015 13:52:36 GMT
Still not been announced
on this point, not good enough Stoke city
Mind you -three points today would placate me somewhat
followed by a bumper quality player signing spree in the summer
nevertheless - inexplicable still, how they have not done this - and construction work is not getting cheaper
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Post by bobthethrob on Apr 11, 2015 14:59:15 GMT
deck DICKING ABOUT
NO MORE polls
No more SURVEYS
FILL THEM IN
start with Tony corner
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Apr 13, 2015 10:57:10 GMT
any more votes people? Going to start the campaign with Mr Scholes this week
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Apr 13, 2015 11:21:10 GMT
ok email sent to Mr Scholes, lets see what he says ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif)
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Post by skemstokie on Apr 13, 2015 11:28:52 GMT
For the umpteenth time, if actually getting people to fill the seats is an issue, you offer kids for a quid, or give blocks away to schools, not difficult. Not sure that makes sense, of course over time it will pay for itself but kids for a quid or tickets to schools makes it an even longer drawn out process before your making money back Ts certainly won't like that plan. Add to that the atmosphere suddenly sounding like a one direction concert I say no thanks. I don't buy into this build it and they will come nonsense we simply won't sell the additional tickets all the time, I know plenty of people who pick and choose which games they attend throughout the season and other than the Leicester promotion game none have had an issue getting tickets for any game. I'm not convinced that we don't sell out every game is due to lack of seats and is more to do with the cost of attending games especially as a family in this area with a fairly large percentage of the cities populations working shifts who can't attend some games if they wanted too. Sent from my C6603 using proboards Have you tried getting adjoining seats? If you had perhaps you would "buy in".
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Post by miggo on Apr 13, 2015 18:51:24 GMT
Not sure that makes sense, of course over time it will pay for itself but kids for a quid or tickets to schools makes it an even longer drawn out process before your making money back Ts certainly won't like that plan. Add to that the atmosphere suddenly sounding like a one direction concert I say no thanks. I don't buy into this build it and they will come nonsense we simply won't sell the additional tickets all the time, I know plenty of people who pick and choose which games they attend throughout the season and other than the Leicester promotion game none have had an issue getting tickets for any game. I'm not convinced that we don't sell out every game is due to lack of seats and is more to do with the cost of attending games especially as a family in this area with a fairly large percentage of the cities populations working shifts who can't attend some games if they wanted too. Sent from my C6603 using proboards Have you tried getting adjoining seats? If you had perhaps you would "buy in". No as I've been a ST holder for many years but I know families who buy 5/6/7 tickets for random games in all categories and as mentioned they have never missed out and go on average 10 home games a season. I'm not saying we shouldn't look to expand but we are a relatively small club in a small area with 2 clubs, our income is almost the lowest by average in the country. We won't sell 30,000 tickets without offering low price deals for a lot of games that may be a way forward but rather than lose money building 1800 seats that we have to give away why not employ someone in the ticket office with half a brain cell that could come up with different ideas to solve the problem at hand, it would not be difficult to employ a strategy where by we fill seats more efficiently leaving more available for a longer period for last minute buys, it's not that difficult and if then we are selling out then increase the capacity. Sent from my C6603 using proboards
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Post by Gunslinger on Apr 13, 2015 19:42:31 GMT
They're here, they're there, they're every fucking where empty seats. No thanks. Let's address the front of the house and come to this issue at the end of the 16/17 season. For the umpteenth time, if actually getting people to fill the seats is an issue, you offer kids for a quid, or give blocks away to schools, not difficult. ![(thumbsup)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/q4Mqf5MqRwT9PY8UitYa.gif)
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Post by mrcoke on Apr 13, 2015 19:59:55 GMT
They're here, they're there, they're every fucking where empty seats. No thanks. Let's address the front of the house and come to this issue at the end of the 16/17 season. For the umpteenth time, if actually getting people to fill the seats is an issue, you offer kids for a quid, or give blocks away to schools, not difficult. "Get them while they are young and you'll get them for life".
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Post by kustokie on Apr 13, 2015 20:26:37 GMT
yeh, but when we are playing shit like parts of this season and last season we were 1000s short if you hit 200, are you going be doing an email interview or actually request a face to face interview? yeh, but when we are playing shit like parts of this season and last season we were 1000s short Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/242625/announce-filling-corner?page=6#ixzz3Wu6tbkON1000's short this season: really? once you factor out empty away section seats thats disputable Last season yes: & last season is the only season out of the last SIX seasons. the reason was due to S/T shortfall after sections of the fanbase were turned off the TP era. notably the empty seats were for games where prices were at at their maximum (e.g. Man City game early last season) which should show to anyone that even for 'attractive' oppositions if you ask for £47 people wont pay it. Given that ticket sales account for an increasingly tiny % of club revenue & given that TV is king it is abundantly clear that waht prem clubs need to do is,like German football,have big shiny stadiums full of vibrant football supporters. Stoke therefore NEED to keep TV happy therefore NEED to improve the stadium visually,NEED to increase the size of the stadium & NEED to keep it (98%) full. Can we afford to spend (£6m at most,previous indications have been £3.5m) on the scoreboard corner. yes of course we can. Can we fill that corner: not at £47 a ticket no siree Would it be (98%) full at £20 a ticket? of course it would. imho Stoke could (98%) fill a 35000 stadium IF PRICED CORRECTLY.
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Post by kustokie on Apr 13, 2015 20:29:14 GMT
yeh, but when we are playing shit like parts of this season and last season we were 1000s short Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/242625/announce-filling-corner?page=6#ixzz3Wu6tbkON1000's short this season: really? once you factor out empty away section seats thats disputable Last season yes: & last season is the only season out of the last SIX seasons. the reason was due to S/T shortfall after sections of the fanbase were turned off the TP era. notably the empty seats were for games where prices were at at their maximum (e.g. Man City game early last season) which should show to anyone that even for 'attractive' oppositions if you ask for £47 people wont pay it. Given that ticket sales account for an increasingly tiny % of club revenue & given that TV is king it is abundantly clear that waht prem clubs need to do is,like German football,have big shiny stadiums full of vibrant football supporters. Stoke therefore NEED to keep TV happy therefore NEED to improve the stadium visually,NEED to increase the size of the stadium & NEED to keep it (98%) full. Can we afford to spend (£6m at most,previous indications have been £3.5m) on the scoreboard corner. yes of course we can. Can we fill that corner: not at £47 a ticket no siree Would it be (98%) full at £20 a ticket? of course it would. imho Stoke could (98%) fill a 35000 stadium IF PRICED CORRECTLY. Got 4 in a row for Manure on Boxing Day. Had to log in at 00.01 to get 'em. Did pay 47 each.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 19:36:08 GMT
So , here's one for you . West Ham apparently - a direct competitor of ours, despised by myself, cunningly work their way into a bigger stadium and get the taxpayer to bankroll it. Even more cunningly, they now announce a season ticket price drop no less!
looking to get 54,000 in
This is what we're up against folks
Real attempts to develop and build football clubs we are competing against at the highest level we now find ourselves at.
So having heard today, the bold step to drop season ticket prices to attract more fans to the new stadium and fill it - notwithstanding the new TV deal
I find it somewhat ironic that as the same time as we procrastinate and vaccilate over chucking a few more seats in one corner - people with real ambition, willingness to take some risks - work themselves into larger capacity grounds and intend to fill the extra seats by grasping a nettle
intuitively crazy to the more cautious amongst our football clubs perhaps ?
Makes our club - the club with a better football team and manager right now
look rather 'sluggish' in our forward planning ??? - thats the very least you could observe right now
'I suppose this is another wake up and smell the coffee Stoke City' message
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 19:38:08 GMT
So , here's one for you . West Ham apparently - a direct competitor of ours, despised by myself, cunningly work their way into a bigger stadium and get the taxpayer to bankroll it. Even more cunningly, they now announce a season ticket price drop no less! looking to get 54,000 in This is what we're up against folks Real attempts to develop and build football clubs we are competing against at the highest level we now find ourselves at. So having heard today the bold step to drop season ticket prices to attract more fans to the new stadium and fill it - notwithstanding the new TV deal I find it somewhat ironic that as the same time as we vccilate over chucking a few more seats in one corner - people with real ambition, willingness to take some risks - work themselves into larger capacity grounds and intned to fill the extra seats Makes our club - the club with a better football team and manager right now look rather 'sluggish' in our forward planning ??? 'I suppose this is another wake up and smell the coffee Stoke City' message West Ham is a bigger club with more fans available. Stoke isn't rich, it's support is split between two teams and it's not massive anyways.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 19:39:15 GMT
a bit like Luton town are we then ?
look a the catchment on a map
is Stoke on Trent a series of villages or, an urban connurbation consisting of hundreds of thousands of people ?
Is Stoke on Trent even a city at ALL ? (doesnt seem to behave like it)
with, a catchment 30 miles wide and some 50 miles long ? free of other premier league clubs ?
and - how many clubs do West Ham compete against in London ?
(we got one - and they are a fucking pub team that cant pay its bills)
mind you - dont increase capacity - we are happy as we are !
happy to be mediocre - happy not to strive for bigger - better!!
is this as good as it gets ? (very sad if it is)
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Post by sportsman on Apr 22, 2015 19:56:42 GMT
I just don't get this image that we want to try and keep. I remember hearing Peter on the radio saying he quite likes the open corners as it keeps the wind blowing through and the opposition don't like it.
I think we've outgrown all that now. Open corners, shitty dugouts. Do we turn the hot water off in their changing rooms?
How about trying to encourage players to come here with a complete stadium, filled by imaginative schemes to create a bigger more intimidating atmosphere.
Someone at the club really needs to get with the times and think for more than two seconds.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 22, 2015 20:18:27 GMT
I've told you, they're all bone bastard idle down there. Many many issues with the ground for years but nothing is done despite us dripping with money.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 20:24:20 GMT
More than dripping - they're going to have to start stuffing mattresses at 'village central' soon
its scarcely credible
and now, look at What West Ham go and do
shit club - shit team - shit manager - shit owners - in a shit city - but ambitous !
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Post by stokeramblers on Apr 22, 2015 20:33:16 GMT
Personally I like Tony's plan....
One day, Coates is just going to explode.. "Give it a fucking rest Tony for fucks sake, I'll build that bastarding corner if you'll just stop banging on and on and on and on about it. Jesus H Christ!"
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