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Post by elystokie on Apr 8, 2020 12:52:52 GMT
Host a joint one in Thailand and Vietnam Why not include Cambodia, it's between the two
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2020 18:22:41 GMT
Host a joint one in Thailand and Vietnam Been to a WC qualifier in Thailand and SE Asian games in Vietnam. Fantastic.
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 9, 2020 4:46:52 GMT
There's still very little will to remove hosting rights from Qatar. And the current state of the world means this week's revelation will be quickly forgotten.
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Post by Veritas on Apr 9, 2020 8:45:38 GMT
There's still very little will to remove hosting rights from Qatar. And the current state of the world means this week's revelation will be quickly forgotten. Money overrides morals shock Sad but too true
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 11, 2020 21:35:38 GMT
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Post by bathstoke on Apr 12, 2020 8:11:13 GMT
Taking part in it, watching it, supporting it, is tacit approval of the process, the bribes, the exploitation of slave labour to make vast sums of money for people we now know are not key workers. We should get a backbone and some principles and tell them to shove it, we have better things to do and other priorities. You knew from the moment Septic Bladder said that the origins of Nogger were in China that it wouldn’t be us. It £@#&!n stinks & they can shove it up their @&$e⚽️
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Post by raythesailor on Apr 12, 2020 14:31:41 GMT
When we hopefully come out of this Pandemic we may all have a more down to earth attitude to many things including football and politics.
How FIFA have so blatantly got away with this OBVIOUS corruption and their arrogance in thinking they could just do it and F*#k You is beyond comprehension.
Hopefully many will now say NO WAY you thieving cheating bastards.
Our FA were spineless. We should have told them to shove Qatar, we are not coming. Possibly the rest of Europe may have followed.
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Post by lordb on Apr 12, 2020 14:59:40 GMT
When we hopefully come out of this Pandemic we may all have a more down to earth attitude to many things including football and politics. How FIFA have so blatantly got away with this OBVIOUS corruption and their arrogance in thinking they could just do it and F*#k You is beyond comprehension. Hopefully many will now say NO WAY you thieving cheating bastards. Our FA were spineless. We should have told them to shove Qatar, we are not coming. Possibly the rest of Europe may have followed. They wouldn't, it would just look like we have a superiority complex.
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Post by zelem on Apr 12, 2020 22:26:42 GMT
Corrupt as hell fifa, uefa, football league the lot! Since the world cups were offered to russia and qatar my whole faith and interest in football has massively deminished! As someone who has worked in qatar (at companies who are supplying into the stadiums) a few times in the last 18 months, apparently they tell me there that part of the agreement for them getting the world cup was that the stadiums could be dismantled at the end of the tournament and shipped to under privileged countries!. Watch this space
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 13, 2020 1:30:39 GMT
When we hopefully come out of this Pandemic we may all have a more down to earth attitude to many things including football and politics. How FIFA have so blatantly got away with this OBVIOUS corruption and their arrogance in thinking they could just do it and F*#k You is beyond comprehension. Hopefully many will now say NO WAY you thieving cheating bastards. Our FA were spineless. We should have told them to shove Qatar, we are not coming. Possibly the rest of Europe may have followed. England wouldn't be able to lead something like that with credibility. If it was a major international football nation perhaps but that's not England.
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Post by blackpoolred on Apr 13, 2020 5:01:39 GMT
When we hopefully come out of this Pandemic we may all have a more down to earth attitude to many things including football and politics. How FIFA have so blatantly got away with this OBVIOUS corruption and their arrogance in thinking they could just do it and F*#k You is beyond comprehension. Hopefully many will now say NO WAY you thieving cheating bastards. Our FA were spineless. We should have told them to shove Qatar, we are not coming. Possibly the rest of Europe may have followed. England wouldn't be able to lead something like that with credibility. If it was a major international football nation perhaps but that's not England. In terms of teams having a realistic chance of winning a tournament and results since the 66 world cup, we are probably a tier 3 international team. However, I still think we are seen as a leading nation regarding football and we always somehow manage to make it into tournaments as one of the top seeds and are also recent world champions at every level bar senior one. Aslo, our national league is seen as one of the best products and we have the current club team world champions. We should have therefore, in my opinion, pulled out of the tournament straight away and given what has gone on since we should definitely be having nothing to do with it as it stands now. I still think we are seen as one of the leaders regarding football and also seen as a nation with a bit of integrity and when it comes to putting in bids for tournaments have been pretty fecking useless when it comes to bribing. The FA once again are showing their spine or lack of it - in my opinion. We expect it from other nations, but the home of football should be leading by example and showing that enough is enough and things have gone too far
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 13, 2020 6:31:13 GMT
England wouldn't be able to lead something like that with credibility. If it was a major international football nation perhaps but that's not England. In terms of teams having a realistic chance of winning a tournament and results since the 66 world cup, we are probably a tier 3 international team. However, I still think we are seen as a leading nation regarding football and we always somehow manage to make it into tournaments as one of the top seeds and are also recent world champions at every level bar senior one. Aslo, our national league is seen as one of the best products and we have the current club team world champions. We should have therefore, in my opinion, pulled out of the tournament straight away and given what has gone on since we should definitely be having nothing to do with it as it stands now. I still think we are seen as one of the leaders regarding football and also seen as a nation with a bit of integrity and when it comes to putting in bids for tournaments have been pretty fecking useless when it comes to bribing. The FA once again are showing their spine or lack of it - in my opinion. We expect it from other nations, but the home of football should be leading by example and showing that enough is enough and things have gone too far Across the world the English FA are considered to be hypocritical mardarses. Do you think the English bid didn't break any rules? Other nations wouldn't follow
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Post by blackpoolred on Apr 13, 2020 17:20:32 GMT
In terms of teams having a realistic chance of winning a tournament and results since the 66 world cup, we are probably a tier 3 international team. However, I still think we are seen as a leading nation regarding football and we always somehow manage to make it into tournaments as one of the top seeds and are also recent world champions at every level bar senior one. Aslo, our national league is seen as one of the best products and we have the current club team world champions. We should have therefore, in my opinion, pulled out of the tournament straight away and given what has gone on since we should definitely be having nothing to do with it as it stands now. I still think we are seen as one of the leaders regarding football and also seen as a nation with a bit of integrity and when it comes to putting in bids for tournaments have been pretty fecking useless when it comes to bribing. The FA once again are showing their spine or lack of it - in my opinion. We expect it from other nations, but the home of football should be leading by example and showing that enough is enough and things have gone too far Across the world the English FA are considered to be hypocritical mardarses. Do you think the English bid didn't break any rules? Other nations wouldn't follow That is the point though - England were found to be taking a liberty with some of the rules, but clearly not enough of them as we may have won a bid - we are even shite at bribing - but that, basically, has what it has come down to The whole game is corrupt: played by crooks, ran by crooks and most clubs owned by them - the FA are known as clueless feckwits not just by the rest of the world, but by every football fan in this country. To be honest I switch a game on in anticipation and as soon as I see some twat go down like they have been shot, I switch over, I lasted about 10 mins or the previous world cup and won't even be trying to watch the one in Qatar - football has gone past the point of no return where cheating is pretty much accepted as the norm and it seems to be getting worse
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 17:35:03 GMT
When we hopefully come out of this Pandemic we may all have a more down to earth attitude to many things including football and politics. How FIFA have so blatantly got away with this OBVIOUS corruption and their arrogance in thinking they could just do it and F*#k You is beyond comprehension. Hopefully many will now say NO WAY you thieving cheating bastards. Our FA were spineless. We should have told them to shove Qatar, we are not coming. Possibly the rest of Europe may have followed. I don't think a World Cup without England would make the slightest bit of difference to other European nations and wouldn't be seen as a major boycott. Qatar will go ahead and to be fair England's handling of the Euros, especially ticket wise left a lot to be desired.
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Post by boothenesque on Apr 13, 2020 20:53:03 GMT
When we hopefully come out of this Pandemic we may all have a more down to earth attitude to many things including football and politics. How FIFA have so blatantly got away with this OBVIOUS corruption and their arrogance in thinking they could just do it and F*#k You is beyond comprehension. Hopefully many will now say NO WAY you thieving cheating bastards. Our FA were spineless. We should have told them to shove Qatar, we are not coming. Possibly the rest of Europe may have followed. They wouldn't, it would just look like we have a superiority complex. So instead we give tacit approval, rewarding those that used slave labour and bought the finals. Not a superiority complex just morals. What the rest of the world does is up to theem and their consciences.
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Post by boothenesque on Apr 13, 2020 21:01:43 GMT
and as for Russia, they murder people in our own country, how much did it cost to clean up Salisbury, and we're happy to go a play footie with them. I get that it's not the footballer's fault and it's wrong to punish footballers, mix politics and sport and so on, but murder and attempted murder. Plus the airline shot down. It not that they are a dictatorship and will do whatever they can to damage our country but murder with no extradition no trial, at what point is a line crossed and footballer's own morality over money kicks in. A lot of them are raising money for nurses, fair play to them for that, maybe after all this covid-19 they will continue to consider that there are more important things than football.
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Post by lordb on Apr 13, 2020 21:50:28 GMT
They wouldn't, it would just look like we have a superiority complex. So instead we give tacit approval, rewarding those that used slave labour and bought the finals. Not a superiority complex just morals. What the rest of the world does is up to theem and their consciences. No we should raise the issues very publicly as often as we can. Perhaps we should boycott even purely out of principal However the FA/England's standing/influence is incredibly low. Hardly anyone would follow our lead, that's the point I was making.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 21:50:57 GMT
and as for Russia, they murder people in our own country, how much did it cost to clean up Salisbury, and we're happy to go a play footie with them. I get that it's not the footballer's fault and it's wrong to punish footballers, mix politics and sport and so on, but murder and attempted murder. Plus the airline shot down. It not that they are a dictatorship and will do whatever they can to damage our country but murder with no extradition no trial, at what point is a line crossed and footballer's own morality over money kicks in. A lot of them are raising money for nurses, fair play to them for that, maybe after all this covid-19 they will continue to consider that there are more important things than football. British have murdered thousands upon thousands in other countries if we want to go down that route. Is sport at the end of the day not about politics present or past
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 14, 2020 5:47:51 GMT
So instead we give tacit approval, rewarding those that used slave labour and bought the finals. Not a superiority complex just morals. What the rest of the world does is up to theem and their consciences. No we should raise the issues very publicly as often as we can. Perhaps we should boycott even purely out of principal However the FA/England's standing/influence is incredibly low. Hardly anyone would follow our lead, that's the point I was making. The arrogance of not even participating in a World Cup until 1950 still rankles.
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 26, 2021 11:02:54 GMT
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Post by J-Roar on Feb 26, 2021 17:56:30 GMT
'Qatar World Cup 2022: Fifa is naive or lying if it thinks hosting the tournament will drive change' Hmm. Tricky one.
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 26, 2021 21:51:50 GMT
'Qatar World Cup 2022: Fifa is naive or lying if it thinks hosting the tournament will drive change' Hmm. Tricky one. It won't. Why would they? Perhaps for a month their approach to visiting homosexuals may be less barbaric but what's after?
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Post by J-Roar on Feb 26, 2021 22:00:09 GMT
'Qatar World Cup 2022: Fifa is naive or lying if it thinks hosting the tournament will drive change' Hmm. Tricky one. It won't. Why would they? Perhaps for a month their approach to visiting homosexuals may be less barbaric but what's after? Sod em
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 26, 2021 22:07:45 GMT
It won't. Why would they? Perhaps for a month their approach to visiting homosexuals may be less barbaric but what's after? Sod em Sod who?
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 17, 2021 14:31:49 GMT
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 17, 2021 14:37:51 GMT
Classic Daily Mail, more interested in using the article to have a pop at ‘virtue signalling’ than the actual human rights abuses going on.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Oct 17, 2021 14:56:49 GMT
This only thing that surprises me about this Daily Mail report is why it’s taken so long for the penny to drop with main stream media. I’ve been harping on almost ad nauseam for months about the hypocrisy of players taking the knee but happy to go to compete in Qatar WC qualifiers and finals. I have yet to watch a World Cup qualifier and really couldn’t give a shit whether England qualify because I will not watch any of it. It’s about time a high profile player stood up to be counted but just know it won’t be anytime soon.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 17, 2021 15:04:00 GMT
This only thing that surprises me about this Daily Mail report is why it’s taken so long for the penny to drop with main stream media. I’ve been harping on almost ad nauseam for months about the hypocrisy of players taking the knee but happy to go to compete in Qatar WC qualifiers and finals. I have yet to watch a World Cup qualifier and really couldn’t give a shit whether England qualify because I will not watch any of it. It’s about time a high profile player stood up to be counted but just know it won’t be anytime soon. I guess unlike taking the knee where it’s a mass agreement and very easy to do one sole player taking the lead takes a hell of a lot more bottle because it’s far more of a sacrifice because the likelihood is no one else would follow, a bit like players coming out as gay.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Oct 17, 2021 16:32:23 GMT
This only thing that surprises me about this Daily Mail report is why it’s taken so long for the penny to drop with main stream media. I’ve been harping on almost ad nauseam for months about the hypocrisy of players taking the knee but happy to go to compete in Qatar WC qualifiers and finals. I have yet to watch a World Cup qualifier and really couldn’t give a shit whether England qualify because I will not watch any of it. It’s about time a high profile player stood up to be counted but just know it won’t be anytime soon. I guess unlike taking the knee where it’s a mass agreement and very easy to do one sole player taking the lead takes a hell of a lot more bottle because it’s far more of a sacrifice because the likelihood is no one else would follow, a bit like players coming out as gay. Fair point Cobsy but then the England team should stop taking the knee then. Because of the WC fiasco it’s becoming pointless and meaningless imo.
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Post by spitthedog on Oct 17, 2021 16:55:03 GMT
I guess unlike taking the knee where it’s a mass agreement and very easy to do one sole player taking the lead takes a hell of a lot more bottle because it’s far more of a sacrifice because the likelihood is no one else would follow, a bit like players coming out as gay. Fair point Cobsy but then the England team should stop taking the knee then. Because of the WC fiasco it’s becoming pointless and meaningless imo. Do you think players will refuse to play for Newcastle, now they are team funded by a Government who sponsor international terrorism?
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