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Post by SamB_SCFC on Jun 26, 2017 22:26:11 GMT
Qatar bid corrupt? Really? BBCIn other news. The world is round, the wheel is invented and God doesn't exist.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 27, 2017 7:24:19 GMT
Infantino could have gotten the world onside by opening a fresh bid for 2022. Instead he has carried on the bollox of his predecessor albeit without the fevered ego.
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Post by boothenesque on Jun 27, 2017 9:53:16 GMT
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Post by medwaypotter on Jun 27, 2017 9:57:42 GMT
Absolutely no surprises there.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Jun 27, 2017 10:32:41 GMT
I wonder if the timing of this leak has anything to do with the falling out that Qatar has just had with Saudi and it's neighbours. If I'm correct, then Saudi/US pressure will be applied forcefully against FIFA to get the tournament in Qatar cancelled alternatively Qatar might be forced to relinquish the right to hold the tournament. Qatar being humiliated would be something the Saudis would love to see.
An issue here would be where this fits in with Russia, as they will not be bullied out their hosting of the World Cup. Perhaps Qatar may give it up, shortly after the Russian tournament.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 27, 2017 10:52:25 GMT
I wonder if the timing of this leak has anything to do with the falling out that Qatar has just had with Saudi and it's neighbours. If I'm correct, then Saudi/US pressure will be applied forcefully against FIFA to get the tournament in Qatar cancelled alternatively Qatar might be forced to relinquish the right to hold the tournament. Qatar being humiliated would be something the Saudis would love to see. An issue here would be where this fits in with Russia, as they will not be bullied out their hosting of the World Cup. Perhaps Qatar may give it up, shortly after the Russian tournament. It is too late to take it off Russia now. Also it would be difficult to imagine other European nation supporting the decision for obvious reasons.
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Post by bringmesunshine on Jun 27, 2017 11:20:57 GMT
Just wild speculation I know but if it did get taken off Qatar then either us or the US would be in with a shout as we already have infrastructure, stadiums and accommodation built, even if it doesn't the Americans want it there and would probably get it before us, there is talk of it going to Australia in 2026 and rightly so and if it was to go to America in 2030 that would put Europe back in the bidding process for 2034. Spain have already expressed interest in having it and should we lose out to them in 2034 then it would almost certainly go to another 2 different continents before it came back to Europe so we could be looking at 2046, that's 80 years after we first hosted it.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 27, 2017 11:28:41 GMT
Just wild speculation I know but if it did get taken off Qatar then either us or the US would be in with a shout as we already have infrastructure, stadiums and accommodation built, even if it doesn't the Americans want it there and would probably get it before us, there is talk of it going to Australia in 2026 and rightly so and if it was to go to America in 2030 that would put Europe back in the bidding process for 2034. Spain have already expressed interest in having it and should we lose out to them in 2034 then it would almost certainly go to another 2 different continents before it came back to Europe so we could be looking at 2046, that's 80 years after we first hosted it. The best bid for 2022 by far was the USA. If Qatar lost the rights it should be them.
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Post by lordb on Jun 27, 2017 12:40:56 GMT
What are peoples expectations? For me I expect more revelations,more scandal, more blindingly obvious reasons as to why the World Cup should not take place in Qatar.... ....& for FIFA to ignore them all with the tournament to go ahead in Qatar.
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 27, 2017 12:45:29 GMT
What are peoples expectations? For me I expect more revelations,more scandal, more blindingly obvious reasons as to why the World Cup should not take place in Qatar.... ....& for FIFA to ignore them all with the tournament to go ahead in Qatar. I agree. 😣
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Post by bringmesunshine on Jun 27, 2017 12:56:29 GMT
What are peoples expectations? For me I expect more revelations,more scandal, more blindingly obvious reasons as to why the World Cup should not take place in Qatar.... ....& for FIFA to ignore them all with the tournament to go ahead in Qatar. I think we not only expect it to go ahead but also for people to continue to be exploited and die as they rush to finish the stadia and cities which haven't even been built yet, whilst FIFA tell us all what an outstanding achievement and success it has and will be. "As well as being built from scratch, Lusail Stadium is itself part of a completely new $45 billion city taking shape in the desert outside Doha." www.goal.com/en/news/14552/world-cup-2018/2017/04/13/34569662/work-begins-on-qatar-2022-world-cup-final-stadiumWhat's also funny is if you read the wiki entry for the 2022 World Cup Final Stadium Attachment Deleted
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Post by bringmesunshine on Jun 27, 2017 15:43:32 GMT
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Post by Northy on Jun 27, 2017 16:32:21 GMT
What are peoples expectations? For me I expect more revelations,more scandal, more blindingly obvious reasons as to why the World Cup should not take place in Qatar.... ....& for FIFA to ignore them all with the tournament to go ahead in Qatar. What's also funny is if you read the wiki entry for the 2022 World Cup Final Stadium View AttachmentIt's a done deal already then
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Post by essexstokey on Jun 27, 2017 16:45:29 GMT
seems a bit of a white wash criticising England and Australia but clearing Russia and Qatar for lack of evidence as the Russians had destroyed the computers same old fifa as corrupt as ever
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Post by JoeinOz on Jun 28, 2017 3:02:36 GMT
seems a bit of a white wash criticising England and Australia but clearing Russia and Qatar for lack of evidence as the Russians had destroyed the computers same old fifa as corrupt as ever Of 22 committee members only 5 fully co-operated. However, England and Australia's posturing on the issue in recent years has verged on pomposity. It all proves England are shit at skullduggery. If you are going to do it do it well ferfuxache!😀
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Post by djduncanjames on Jul 2, 2017 13:30:17 GMT
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 2, 2017 14:10:29 GMT
How that Blatter ain't behind bars sucking some big Cons Cock,I have no idea.
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Post by essexstokey on Oct 3, 2017 17:49:13 GMT
World Cup 2022: Qatar's workers are not workers, they are slaves, and they are building mausoleums, not stadiums link
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Post by waffles on Oct 3, 2017 19:37:05 GMT
I have taken the time to read that, it's slavery, plain and simple, no autopsies on people who die? I'm assuming they have a large ditch to bury them like the Nazis did. Let them die, they deserve it for being slackers, unbelievable.
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Post by essexstokey on Oct 3, 2017 20:04:09 GMT
I have taken the time to read that, it's slavery, plain and simple, no autopsies on people who die? I'm assuming they have a large ditch to bury them like the Nazis did. Let them die, they deserve it for being slackers, unbelievable. If you look when I started this thread in 2013 nothing has changed only probably got worse and fifa are still backing this, Fifa have a lot of blood on there hands on this one.!!!
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Post by toppercorner on Oct 6, 2017 9:42:44 GMT
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Post by Clayton Wood on Oct 6, 2017 10:10:55 GMT
What to know about the Qatar crisisQatar is a nation about the size of the U.S. state of Connecticut, which juts out like a thumb on the Arabian Peninsula into the Persian Gulf. It has the highest per-capita income in the world due to its natural gas reserves, the third-largest on the planet after Russia and Iran. Just over 10 percent of its 2.2 million people are Qataris, with the rest foreign workers. Its people follow an ultraconservative form of Islam known as Wahhabism, though unlike neighboring Saudi Arabia, women can drive and foreigners can drink alcohol. Qatar will host the 2022 FIFA World Cup.The Associated Press obtained a list of the Arab countries’ demands of Qatar on June 22. They include limiting diplomatic ties to Iran, shutting down the state-funded Al-Jazeera satellite news network and other media outlets, and severing ties to all “terrorist organizations,” including the Muslim Brotherhood and Lebanon’s Hezbollah. It also demanded Qatar expel the Turkish troops now stationed in the country, as well as pay reparations and submit to auditing. Qatar rejected the demands as violations of its sovereignty, letting the deadline and an extension pass.So Mr Blatter, what exactly was it that attracted you to the Qatar bid?
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 6, 2017 13:48:51 GMT
What to know about the Qatar crisisQatar is a nation about the size of the U.S. state of Connecticut, which juts out like a thumb on the Arabian Peninsula into the Persian Gulf. It has the highest per-capita income in the world due to its natural gas reserves, the third-largest on the planet after Russia and Iran. Just over 10 percent of its 2.2 million people are Qataris, with the rest foreign workers. Its people follow an ultraconservative form of Islam known as Wahhabism, though unlike neighboring Saudi Arabia, women can drive and foreigners can drink alcohol. Qatar will host the 2022 FIFA World Cup.The Associated Press obtained a list of the Arab countries’ demands of Qatar on June 22. They include limiting diplomatic ties to Iran, shutting down the state-funded Al-Jazeera satellite news network and other media outlets, and severing ties to all “terrorist organizations,” including the Muslim Brotherhood and Lebanon’s Hezbollah. It also demanded Qatar expel the Turkish troops now stationed in the country, as well as pay reparations and submit to auditing. Qatar rejected the demands as violations of its sovereignty, letting the deadline and an extension pass.So Mr Blatter, what exactly was it that attracted you to the Qatar bid? Remember though Blatter voted against Qatar and in favour of the USA.
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 6, 2017 14:00:27 GMT
I do too but it's highly unlikely .
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Post by Clayton Wood on Oct 6, 2017 15:47:28 GMT
What to know about the Qatar crisisQatar is a nation about the size of the U.S. state of Connecticut, which juts out like a thumb on the Arabian Peninsula into the Persian Gulf. It has the highest per-capita income in the world due to its natural gas reserves, the third-largest on the planet after Russia and Iran. Just over 10 percent of its 2.2 million people are Qataris, with the rest foreign workers. Its people follow an ultraconservative form of Islam known as Wahhabism, though unlike neighboring Saudi Arabia, women can drive and foreigners can drink alcohol. Qatar will host the 2022 FIFA World Cup.The Associated Press obtained a list of the Arab countries’ demands of Qatar on June 22. They include limiting diplomatic ties to Iran, shutting down the state-funded Al-Jazeera satellite news network and other media outlets, and severing ties to all “terrorist organizations,” including the Muslim Brotherhood and Lebanon’s Hezbollah. It also demanded Qatar expel the Turkish troops now stationed in the country, as well as pay reparations and submit to auditing. Qatar rejected the demands as violations of its sovereignty, letting the deadline and an extension pass.So Mr Blatter, what exactly was it that attracted you to the Qatar bid? Remember though Blatter voted against Qatar and in favour of the USA. Will you stop putting facts in he way of a good rant! OK maybe it should have said FIFA. The point still stands though Joe; money, cheap (sadly expendable labour as it's turned out) and little or no accountability. Use the excuse of taking football to a new area to try to make it palatable for the masses.
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Post by essexstokey on Nov 9, 2017 17:53:54 GMT
World Cup: Fifa urged to strengthen workers’ rights in Russia & Qatar link
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Post by raythesailor on Nov 9, 2017 18:38:27 GMT
A total scandal. I and I am sure many others have totally lost respect for footballing authorities both internationally and unfortunately closer to home.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Nov 11, 2017 8:32:25 GMT
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Post by toppercorner on Nov 11, 2017 11:39:45 GMT
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 17, 2017 21:33:47 GMT
Guardian today
This week the US justice department court case sparked into life in New York. On Tuesday a prosecution witness alleged that Julio Grondona, a former senior vice-president at Fifa, had taken $1m in bribes to vote for Qatar to host the World Cup. The witness, Alejandro Burzaco, named a broadcast executive called Jorge Delhon as an intermediary. A few hours later Delhon was found dead by a railway siding in Buenos Aires. Police say all the signs suggest it was suicide.
On Wednesday prosecution lawyers complained that one of the accused, the Peruvian FA head Manuel Burga, was making a repeated “slicing motion across his throat” in Burzaco’s direction as he gave evidence. Burga’s lawyer said his client had simply been scratching his throat as he suffers from dry skin. He called Burga a “gentle, meek, timid man”. Burga is accused of racketeering, wire fraud and money laundering.
On Thursday, and promising at least a little laughter in the dark, a court in Peru finally ordered the extradition to New York of 85-year-old Nicolás Leoz. The same Leoz who allegedly suggested the FA Cup should be renamed the Nicolás Leoz Cup in return for his World Cup vote and wandered across to the FA delegation at a drinks party and demanded a knighthood. All of which he denies, naturally.And this is the startling, inescapable fact about all this. The next three world and European tournaments were set in place by people who have since turned out to be corrupt. The men responsible may be gone, but their citadels still stand, just as Fifa’s 2010 double-bid ceremony remains football’s own calamitous meltdown, its waste still burning in the soil.
Time for another score update: as we stand, of the 25 Fifa executives involved in the voting for Qatar and Russia 13 have either been banned from football or deemed demonstrably corrupt. Only three have escaped any stain at all. We counted them out. And we counted them back in again – at least the ones who weren’t in prison, banned, dead or hiding.
In between those two World Cups is Euro 2020, which was called as a divvy-up between various host cities at a meeting in Lausanne in 2012. Since then Michel Platini, whose gig this was all along, has been banned from football. His deputy, Ángel María Villar, has been arrested on corruption charges, which he denies.
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