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Post by Kjones9 on May 29, 2013 22:52:50 GMT
What the hell. You can't rid of half your current team and bring a whole load of replacements in. It's QPR all over again. Don't say you weren't warned. No you can't. TP got the present lot into mid-table 5 years running and someone of Hughes' ability should have no problem repeating that. He didnt get the group that we'll have on July 1st (assuming that's when contracts run out) into mid table 5 years running though did he march.
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Post by cartman123 on May 29, 2013 22:53:49 GMT
What the hell. You can't rid of half your current team and bring a whole load of replacements in. It's QPR all over again. Don't say you weren't warned. What the hell are you talking about? That's what TP would've had to do. We're trying to move Palacios out, KJ was clearly out of his long term plans, Owen has retired, Whitehead is a free agent, Nzonzi is unsettled and wants a move, Begovic may well be off to a bigger club. Are you living on another planet? So we are we getting rid of Charlie Adam? Who are we replacing him with? Gareth fucking Barry? Like I say, you can't bring in 7 or 8 new players without there being a knock on effect to the rest of the lads. Just look what happened at QPR. They bought too many players in a too short amount of time. It can't work.
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Post by johnsmithsupper on May 29, 2013 22:54:23 GMT
A crap appointment but I get the feeling that Hughes' tenure at Stoke will be a short one. He will either be a success and fuck off at the first sniff of a better offer, or be a disaster and leave next summer. Either way, can't see this one lasting folks. Lets just hope it is the 1st option. Stafford as someone whom i have had sensible discussions on this board I really can't believe the vitriol going on here. Can I just say to you that when tony pulis was appointed on both occasions even more so the second time the fan reaction was disbelief. Even PHW's would have to accept he did a good job in the end even though it had to end but to compare the playing and managerial record of the two is just chalk and cheese. Give him a chance and I think the first thing is to listen to his PC tomorrow and see how differently he speaks about the club than his predecessor and the lift that alone will give everyone.
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 29, 2013 22:55:19 GMT
Hughes deals for QPR
Diakite undisclosed Green free Nelson free Johnson free Hoillett tribunal Jill Sung 2m Silve loan MBia Undisclosed Granero undisclosed Cesar undisclosed Bossingwa free
Redknapps deals
Samba 12.5m Remy 8m Townsend loAn Jenas undisclosed Young undisclosed Ben Haim free
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Post by Davef on May 29, 2013 22:57:44 GMT
What the hell are you talking about? That's what TP would've had to do. We're trying to move Palacios out, KJ was clearly out of his long term plans, Owen has retired, Whitehead is a free agent, Nzonzi is unsettled and wants a move, Begovic may well be off to a bigger club. Are you living on another planet? So we are we getting rid of Charlie Adam? Who are we replacing him with? Gareth fucking Barry? Like I say, you can't bring in 7 or 8 new players without there being a knock on effect to the rest of the lads. Just look what happened at QPR. They bought too many players in a too short amount of time. It can't work. I didn't mention Charlie Adam and what's Gareth Barry got to do with anything? Just because it's mentioned on some website doesn't make it true. The fact of the matter is that TP would have had a major rebuilding job to do anyway. I don't see what your point is?
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Post by mikeyc on May 29, 2013 23:02:07 GMT
It's all rather depressing!
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Post by cartman123 on May 29, 2013 23:03:20 GMT
So we are we getting rid of Charlie Adam? Who are we replacing him with? Gareth fucking Barry? Like I say, you can't bring in 7 or 8 new players without there being a knock on effect to the rest of the lads. Just look what happened at QPR. They bought too many players in a too short amount of time. It can't work. I didn't mention Charlie Adam and what's Gareth Barry got to do with anything. Just because it's mentioned on some website doesn't make it true. The fact of the matter is that TP would have had a major rebuilding job to do anyway. I don't see what your point is?
Not all in one fucking season. Two fullbacks, 1 or two wingers, and a striker who can score (hooper) and we'd be fine.
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Post by ruts66 on May 29, 2013 23:04:16 GMT
Fucking hell, there's some embarrassingly hysterical fannies amongst our number...
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 23:05:15 GMT
No, you have fucked up big time Stafford. Let's see what you have to say at the end of next season. I have made a note in my diary to remind you. I expect that we still be a Prem team. With Pulis we would have gone down. I don't give a fuck what is in your diary. I don't care a fuck if we win the league. Mark Hughes will still be a cunt! Where is your proof that Pulis would have taken us down? I am not saying he wouldn't but you can't just make shit up to suit your argument. As I said before, you are mentally ill - you need help Stafford.
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Post by armitagestokie on May 29, 2013 23:05:23 GMT
I'll vote at seasons end , in the meantime FFS give the guy a chance, I wish him every success
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 23:10:35 GMT
He may be a cunt but he's now our cunt. I think this sums it up nicely.
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Post by Davef on May 29, 2013 23:18:38 GMT
I didn't mention Charlie Adam and what's Gareth Barry got to do with anything. Just because it's mentioned on some website doesn't make it true. The fact of the matter is that TP would have had a major rebuilding job to do anyway. I don't see what your point is?
Not all in one fucking season. Two fullbacks, 1 or two wingers, and a striker who can score (hooper) and we'd be fine. And what about the possibility of needing a new goalkeeper if we lose Begovic and Sorenson? How about the centre of defence where we have just Huth and Shawcross? The midfield is in desperate need of strengthening with Whitehead and Delap released, Whelan and Etherington not getting any younger, Palacios and Pennant apparently hopeless cases and Nzonzi unsettled. We may need more than one striker with Owen retiring and Jones or Crouch possibly moving.
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Post by Gods on May 29, 2013 23:23:20 GMT
Not all in one fucking season. Two fullbacks, 1 or two wingers, and a striker who can score (hooper) and we'd be fine. And what about the possibility of needing a new goalkeeper if we lose Begovic and Sorenson? How about the centre of defence where we have just Huth and Shawcross? The midfield is in desperate need of strengthening with Whitehead and Delap released, Whelan and Etherington not getting any younger, Palacios and Pennant apparently hopeless cases and Nzonzi unsettled. We may need more than one striker with Owen retiring and Jones or Crouch possibly moving. Otherwise ok though Dave
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Post by caniche on May 29, 2013 23:23:59 GMT
Mark Hughes to be confirmed in the morning. Well Coates you have fucked up big time. Sorry, but I don't get the anti-Hughes mania. Outside of the QPR stint, he is a proven winner in the Prem. He always won more than he lost. Is that not good enough for Stoke? Exactly when have we seen that in the Prem? We want Martinez who has proven f-all? And, please, don't anyone give me that, "He's had his best players stripped away," crap. It's a myth. I've posted his recent line-ups before. Won't bore you again. The myth doesn't wash. Hughes doesn't exactly get me excited. "Uninspired" has been used and is spot on. But the guy wins. What is it we want? I don't have to like my manager, only appreciate his results. I'm fine with giving Hughes a shot.
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Post by march4 on May 29, 2013 23:25:21 GMT
Mark Hughes to be confirmed in the morning. Well Coates you have fucked up big time. Sorry, but I don't get the anti-Hughes mania. Outside of the QPR stint, he is a proven winner in the Prem. He always won more than he lost. Is that not good enough for Stoke? Exactly when have we seen that in the Prem? We want Martinez who has proven f-all? And, please, don't anyone give me that, "He's had his best players stripped away," crap. It's a myth. I've posted his recent line-ups before. Won't bore you again. The myth doesn't wash. Hughes doesn't exactly get me excited. "Uninspired" has been used and is spot on. But the guy wins. What is it we want? I don't have to like my manager, only appreciate his results. I'm fine with giving Hughes a shot. I have no problem with Hughes. I prefer him to O'Neill or Megson or the Trinity of Tripe.
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 29, 2013 23:27:17 GMT
One thing that is a certainty is we won't need the new corner stand now. Money saved by PC. We wouldn't have needed one whoever was in charge.
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Post by devsad on May 29, 2013 23:27:28 GMT
I see a lot of posters saying words to the effect that Hughes has got a good record if we ignore his time at QPR. But that was his last job and football is the ultimate business where you are only as good as your last job. Not many football managers that I can think of have been such abject failures at a club and then come back to be successful; can anyone think of one? (maybe Brian Clough is an example but Hughes is not Brian Clough!). I think we are getting a yesterday's man on a downward path and and it could be a terrible mistake .
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 29, 2013 23:28:59 GMT
What the hell are you talking about? That's what TP would've had to do. We're trying to move Palacios out, KJ was clearly out of his long term plans, Owen has retired, Whitehead is a free agent, Nzonzi is unsettled and wants a move, Begovic may well be off to a bigger club. Are you living on another planet? So we are we getting rid of Charlie Adam? Who are we replacing him with? Gareth fucking Barry? Like I say, you can't bring in 7 or 8 new players without there being a knock on effect to the rest of the lads. Just look what happened at QPR. They bought too many players in a too short amount of time. It can't work. Someone thats actually fit enough to last a game would be a huge improvement on Adam.
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Post by fortressbritannia on May 29, 2013 23:30:46 GMT
So we are we getting rid of Charlie Adam? Who are we replacing him with? Gareth fucking Barry? Like I say, you can't bring in 7 or 8 new players without there being a knock on effect to the rest of the lads. Just look what happened at QPR. They bought too many players in a too short amount of time. It can't work. Someone thats actually fit enough to last a game would be a huge improvement on Adam. Whitehead.
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Post by march4 on May 29, 2013 23:32:57 GMT
Someone thats actually fit enough to last a game would be a huge improvement on Adam. Whitehead. ;)Now you are talking
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Post by stokies on May 29, 2013 23:32:59 GMT
Where is your proof that Pulis would have taken us down? I am not saying he wouldn't but you can't just make shit up to suit your argument. The last 18 months results?
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 29, 2013 23:33:18 GMT
Someone thats actually fit enough to last a game would be a huge improvement on Adam. Whitehead. definitely
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Post by salopstick on May 29, 2013 23:35:59 GMT
I didn't mention Charlie Adam and what's Gareth Barry got to do with anything. Just because it's mentioned on some website doesn't make it true. The fact of the matter is that TP would have had a major rebuilding job to do anyway. I don't see what your point is?
Not all in one fucking season. Two fullbacks, 1 or two wingers, and a striker who can score (hooper) and we'd be fine. That's a fucking joke How many fullbacks has pulis bought in the last 10 transfer windows
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Post by salopstick on May 29, 2013 23:36:35 GMT
I see a lot of posters saying words to the effect that Hughes has got a good record if we ignore his time at QPR. But that was his last job and football is the ultimate business where you are only as good as your last job. Not many football managers that I can think of have been such abject failures at a club and then come back to be successful; can anyone think of one? (maybe Brian Clough is an example but Hughes is not Brian Clough!). I think we are getting a yesterday's man on a downward path and and it could be a terrible mistake . Then I raise you with roberto martinez's last days at Wigan
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Post by Eggybread on May 29, 2013 23:44:07 GMT
I cannot for the life of me understand why we have given Hughes the job.Completely shattered by the appointment. Brainless.
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Post by caniche on May 29, 2013 23:44:39 GMT
I see a lot of posters saying words to the effect that Hughes has got a good record if we ignore his time at QPR. But that was his last job and football is the ultimate business where you are only as good as your last job. Not many football managers that I can think of have been such abject failures at a club and then come back to be successful; can anyone think of one? (maybe Brian Clough is an example but Hughes is not Brian Clough!). I think we are getting a yesterday's man on a downward path and and it could be a terrible mistake . Life isn't linear....and neither is managing. If they were we'd all be in a heap of trouble. Not saying Hughes was a genius at QPR, but how did Harry do? People were sure he'd keep them up. I'm looking at Hughes's track record and it looks a whole lot better than Martinez's who so many seem to be wetting their pants over. If "you are only as good as your last job" how can anyone be looking at him? (Please, no laundry list of excuses.) Hughes was not my first choice, but as a transition manager I think he might just fit the bill.
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Post by lastoftheldk on May 29, 2013 23:45:04 GMT
is it offical ?
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 23:53:21 GMT
Not all in one fucking season. Two fullbacks, 1 or two wingers, and a striker who can score (hooper) and we'd be fine. That's a fucking joke How many fullbacks has pulis bought in the last 10 transfer windows Upson and Woodgate - I'm making the most of the fullback jokes while I can.
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Post by devsad on May 29, 2013 23:54:30 GMT
I think football management is pretty linear actually!
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Post by giboscfc on May 29, 2013 23:55:54 GMT
Hughes was in-charge for 34 games at QPR! His team generated 30 points in the process.How many points did we manage over this period?
I'm sure he will prove a good appointment,and I'm actually looking forward to seeing my team play again.
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