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Post by Jamo on the wing on Feb 3, 2011 1:08:29 GMT
Still fully behind the manager but I must admit going away is getting to be a bit of a drag if you don't get pissed and make a proper day of it.
I can't see any sense in getting rid of TP and if even his staunchest critics are honest, the guy deserves the opportunity to prove them wrong.
This isn't to say he doesn't make me want to head butt the wall when I've spent vast sums of cash going away from home and it isn't to say that I don't criticise some of the daft shit that he does either.
However we are a million miles off thinking about getting rid in my opinion.
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Post by longtonstokie on Feb 3, 2011 1:16:30 GMT
If Pulis went I'd be preparing myself for Championship football in 2 years, not many managers can get the results on such a low budget. Sorry Nick but I dont agree with you there. Coates has backed Pulis to the hilt. The money is there for the right players. The trouble with Pulis is he wouldnt know what to do with them! Longton.
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Post by french toast on Feb 3, 2011 1:33:47 GMT
;d ;d ;D
what a shite thread, pulis is going nowhere THANK FUCK!!!!
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Post by herkbloke on Feb 3, 2011 3:41:54 GMT
To get rid now would be suicide. We play a rigid system and for another manager to come in and try something different with the playing staff we have quite simply would be a faliure. Hate to come over happy clappy but we simply have to get behind the team and somehow scrape the 12 points or so we need. It ain't going to be easy but it's manageable. TP is best with backs aginst wall doing exactly this. With regards to reversion to "binary hoof" I suspect he knows how difficult the task is or more likely he knows the limitations of his team, but tbh that's the team he's got and spent a shed load of money on and will stand or fall on. Lets try get thru the season chaps, but it will be sqeeky arse along the way, and don't expect anything at home against Sunderland, their squad is in a different league to ours and they're evolving very nicely. If/ when we survive, the club needs a long hard look at it'self, coz plainley we have problems that are hindering going forward. I'll take a slating for this but I think the 2 main issues are: - DK. I know he's part of a partnership but I don't like him or his what I supect to be, his downright negative influence on TP - Lyndsey P and the scouting staff are clearly not fit for purpose. Rooking up at Sunderlands reserve matches or watching Sky ain't a prem scouting system. We end up paying top doller for some very average players because of our mistrust of anything from foreign climes. Arismendi hasn't worked but I'm sure there's plenty out there who would. Will be a very intresting summer and alot of talking needs to be done. Just don't expect anything on Sat fellas.
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Post by devonstokie on Feb 3, 2011 3:47:22 GMT
Don't get Pulis one bit, still scratching my head at his bizarre antics and team selection, big Sam or O'Niel for me.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Feb 3, 2011 5:41:48 GMT
For the first time in a long long while i do sense that the fans are turning against TP, and after last night with possible justification. I really felt that Stoke has their best chance in many a year to go to Anfield, put up some fight & come away with at least a point
The Premier League Table this season is very very tight indeed, and while i do think that we should be safe its going to be a rocky journey indeed. More away days like last night with head scratching team selections will only go against TP & the squad. A Cup run i fear at the moment would only be masking what looks like some serious short comings all over.
The Summer's biggest transfer may yet be the manager.
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Post by stokie25 on Feb 3, 2011 6:48:19 GMT
I'm fed up of watching us take baby steps (quite rightly) in the direction of an evolved style of play, then Tony pulling the rug from under us and reverting to type.
Of course I'll be there on Saturday but no doubt with at least one mystifying player amongst the 11 and the usual head scratching when the team news is announced.
We've spent a lot of money to stand still, and where 11th is a noble achievement, it is often painful viewing to pray we stay there.
I almost wish we'd have been knocked out of the Cup as this situation needs serious focus IMO
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Post by Gunslinger on Feb 3, 2011 6:56:14 GMT
I just want him to grow a pair and play our best 11. Not to much to ask is it? That + having a real Plan B (insted of just hoof it to a different player)
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Post by Eggybread on Feb 3, 2011 7:08:45 GMT
Pulis has had his day and we all appreciate it.But if we want to progress or even stabilise our position we must imo have a deep think about the way the club is going.We are becoming an embarrassment with our style of play and attitude towards football.With respectable players such as Tunny and Eider publicly criticising our style of play and lack of ability to evolve it doesn't promote our club in attracting footballers does it?I have had enough, Stoke forever not Pulis.
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Post by lylaeve on Feb 3, 2011 7:17:22 GMT
shit tactics and i hate how his personal fallouts cost us playing the best 11
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Post by swampySCFC on Feb 3, 2011 7:23:32 GMT
We,re playing in the best league in the world. We are going to lose more than we win possibly in our 3rd season.
Stability has counted for a lot and some act as though we should be playing like Brazil.
How many points are we behind long established Prem teams like Bolton and Blackburn, Everton etc.
Thats the answer for me
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Post by frasier45 on Feb 3, 2011 7:25:39 GMT
His tactics should be rarely used not all the time.
It's hard enough to encourage quality to come to Stoke
Professional footballers what to show their skills not be held back.
Pulis has always done what is best in his mind
It's really getting stale now
I'll be glad of a change only if it's the right manager
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Post by herkbloke on Feb 3, 2011 7:27:46 GMT
We'll survive, just, but a leaky defence and an impotent strike force is a recipie for disaster. Brighton will have more possesion than us but we'll win. W'Sham will finish higher than us as they've actually taken the trouble to find players like Piquenne and Obina that fit them well. Piquenne and Obina would have worked well for us but we don't need that tip tap foriegn rubbish here and I'm sure they haven't played for Sunderland before! Dingles, Brazil and Blackpool will be relagated. Summer will be an interesting time. Hard and honest appraisals are needed at board and management level. Sir Pete and TP may enjoy a special realationship, but business is business and imo, he won't hesitate to remove any of the management, coaching or playing staff if he feels our prem status is under threat. Be that this month, summer or next year or never. I said earlier, we're gonna have to back the lads to the hilt but don't expect a win on satdee!
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Post by Northy on Feb 3, 2011 7:27:37 GMT
Pulis has had his day and we all appreciate it.But if we want to progress or even stabilise our position we must imo have a deep think about the way the club is going.We are becoming an embarrassment with our style of play and attitude towards football.With respectable players such as Tunny and Eider publicly criticising our style of play and lack of ability to evolve it doesn't promote our club in attracting footballers does it?I have had enough, Stoke forever not Pulis. Agree with this, he's got the tools at his disposal but doesn't seem to want to or cannot use them. I've never warmed to him, his style and his hypocrisy and favourites etc. but he got us here with PC's and our money, and he was well paid for it. We, the fans are the paying customer and we are entitled to complain about dodgy goods ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/3zptH1h3SvRnVmRGLyMP.gif) All this bollocks about 3 games in 6 days, these are young, very fit professionals. I'm 49 and have run 55 miles in a week, I'm not going to worry Kip Kano but for £30k I'd play 3 games in 6 days ![>:(](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/MK1XRTh9jLIKdOoyx512.gif)
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Post by djh on Feb 3, 2011 7:41:44 GMT
Those who want Pulis to stay but change his ways are kidding themselves. The bloke wont change as long as he's got a hole in his arse.
The question you need to ask is are you prepared to watch this kind of crap every week knowing that we will probably hoof our way to enough points to stay up each year, or do you want a little more to look forward to on a matchday? We also need to forget this idea that if Pulis leaves we will suddenly just crash and burn. I think the players would actually respond to someone who gives them confidence and lets them play. It does'nt seem to have done Bolton any harm so why should it us?
We have built up a big fan base on the back of promotion but I can see it slipping away as the novelty wears off and the football continues to frustrate rather then excite.
Personally I'd sack Pulis for failing to sign a central midfielder worthy of the title after 3 years and £70m never mind anything else. The press are right, the man is anti-football.
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Post by Binndy on Feb 3, 2011 8:05:51 GMT
Pulis out never stop watching stoke city never Stoke city using the last day of the transfer month to try and buy players to strengthen the squad.The blood pressure is slowly lowering!!!
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Post by barndoorbanjo on Feb 3, 2011 8:18:28 GMT
Start with Pennant & Etherington away from home with two up front you never know we just might win a couple. Oh yes! West Brom & Blackburn.
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Post by Danstoke82 on Feb 3, 2011 8:19:34 GMT
I will always support the manager of my beloved Potters.
However, with his constant neglect of talent during the transfer window, utter stubborn-ness and negative tactical mind my support for Pulis is starting to wane a bit.
Im not saying he should be sacked but I'm hoping that Coates will start to get on his back a little more.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2011 8:37:39 GMT
Tony pulis has done a magnificent job at Stoke City, of that there is no doubt. I thank him for PC for restoring us to the top flight for the first time in a generation. He has definitely earned the right to do things his way.
I really like the guy hes very good company and on the few occasions I have spoke to him he really appreciates your support and respects your honesty. He is an incredibly stubborn individual which can be a massive quality but also a massive negative character trait.
he is definitely in the middle of one of his brainstorm periods whereby his decisions and tactics have the vast majority of Stokies scratching their heads. The reaction to the team on the concourse last night was one of total disbelief. Now Tone may have forgotten more than me about footie but their can be no justification for last nights debacle. Salif Diao should be no where near a team at this level, hes a liability, hes not fit enough, is a prime candidate for an early bath and his lunge led to the free kick that cost us the first goal. Carew could have been playing at Goodison and the midfield would have been closer to him. The rest of the season is going to be difficult to watch as we grind and scrap our way to safety, despite spending a shit load of money. Unfortunately for us i think this will lead to an increasing inability to attract players with any guile or ability. For me we've in football terms gone back and to be honest if you want to watch anything resembling football theres just no point in going away from home.
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Post by Smudge_SCFC on Feb 3, 2011 8:41:10 GMT
Still fully behind the manager but I must admit going away is getting to be a bit of a drag if you don't get pissed and make a proper day of it. I can't see any sense in getting rid of TP and if even his staunchest critics are honest, the guy deserves the opportunity to prove them wrong. This isn't to say he doesn't make me want to head butt the wall when I've spent vast sums of cash going away from home and it isn't to say that I don't criticise some of the daft shit that he does either. However we are a million miles off thinking about getting rid in my opinion. I agree with a lot of this. We would be mad to introduce instability into the equation at Stoke and wanting the manager to go takes us down a very dangerous road. That said though, I am now seriously looking at future away attendance and will now be very much picking and choosing. I can no longer justify the expense.
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Post by Alvechurch Assassin on Feb 3, 2011 8:42:38 GMT
I do wonder at times whether TP is too safe in his role. Coates is no mug and must be just a tad disappointed when we go to places like Anfield and dump all our attackers on the bench. His money has paid for those players and to see the likes of Ethers, Fuller, Jones etc twiddling their thumbs on the bench while SFD gets a game must annoy him.
I have a lot of respect for what Tony Pulis has done for this club, but even thougfh we are mid-table in the Premier League I have not been as pissed off with us as I was last night for a long time. Even in the dark days, when we were absolute shite, we would still play the best team we could.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Feb 3, 2011 8:52:53 GMT
Still fully behind the manager but I must admit going away is getting to be a bit of a drag if you don't get pissed and make a proper day of it. I can't see any sense in getting rid of TP and if even his staunchest critics are honest, the guy deserves the opportunity to prove them wrong. This isn't to say he doesn't make me want to head butt the wall when I've spent vast sums of cash going away from home and it isn't to say that I don't criticise some of the daft shit that he does either. However we are a million miles off thinking about getting rid in my opinion. I agree with a lot of this. We would be mad to introduce instability into the equation at Stoke and wanting the manager to go takes us down a very dangerous road. That said though, I am now seriously looking at future away attendance and will now be very much picking and choosing. I can no longer justify the expense. And in that lies the problem. I no longer want to go and see my beloved Stoke away from home with tactics like that - but no doubt I will. I mean come on SMudge, you are saying you will now pick and choose - that says to me that we are really on a slippy slope It is not about two games though (Fulham and Last night) we were equally dour against Cardiff and Wolves So most seem to be saying not going away again. The thing is, what happens when the spills over in to home games e.g. Fulham. How can we be just a home team ??? And then there is a deeper question - the lack of quality players coming to Stoke and supposedly players turning us down - it is not just all about money, it is about our tactics I dont know the answer, but at what point will it be right to say enough is enough? When we have 200 going away? When we have 3,000 empty seats at the Brit? When yet again in the summer we dont sign fullbacks or a decent midfielder?
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Post by DrGonzo on Feb 3, 2011 8:54:13 GMT
Undecided. Was happy for us to play long ball to get us where we are - its a great achievement. However it's now obvious we are not going to progress from that any time soon. I can't justify sitting through many more matches like the Fulham one just so we can finish mid table in the Premier League. I don't care where we were 20 years ago, or how much we spend on a player - I'm only arsed about what I see on the pitch - and some of the football I'm paying to watch is absolute dogshite. There will be a time when I stop paying money to watch it, but I don't know when that will be.
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Post by adri2008 on Feb 3, 2011 9:02:53 GMT
Pulis just rubs people up the wrong way for whatever reason. He has never got the respect or tolerance his achievements really deserve and he's only ever one loss away from the knives coming out.
I think we'd be absolutely crazy to get rid of him now when we are in danger of becoming established in the top division after so long. I could easily see a Charlton scenario happening.
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Post by heworksardtho on Feb 3, 2011 9:08:50 GMT
taxi for pulis please its time for him to go,CC manager but not a premier league one,the guy is way out of his depth,our 3 rd season in the prem and we are playing walters,wilson,collins,and mamma back,come on stoke fans is this what you want to see
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Post by Cupid Stunt on Feb 3, 2011 9:18:27 GMT
The bloke should stay, he has never let this football club down. We've had a month of bad performances and that is it. If we win on Saturday I suspect there won't be many calling for his head. I think it's sad that supporters feel they no longer want to go because we've had some shit performances. We've also had some very good ones (such as Liverpool at home, Birmingham at home and Man City at home). You can really tell who was there when we were in the Championship, because my god, some of the performances back then were awful, and we're much better now. I do recall in fact in the 2006/07 season after a run of awful, boring, uninspired performances, chants of "Pulis out". We finished 8th, then went on to get promotion the next season. You're all very fickle, in November after a run of inspiring performances, everyone was saying we'd be getting Europe, and I feel this is where everyone is cutting their wrists. The fact you had unrealistic expectations of us reaching Europe this season, now means that mid table isn't good enough. We could be like Sunderland in a couple of years but we have to be patient. Short term success doesn't end well in football. Look at the likes of Middlesbrough and Charlton. I say to you all, get a fucking grip. ![8-)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/ibnJJzaA6ZhfTOIekEAf.gif)
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Post by offthewall on Feb 3, 2011 9:18:41 GMT
Nope, I dont fancy doing a Charlton just yet
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Post by snapotter on Feb 3, 2011 9:19:52 GMT
I've had enough of away games - that was my 6th and last away trip this season.
It's all too predictable - square pegs in round holes, defending 1-0 deficits, one up front and absolutely nothing to cheer about. It was a very expensive night out and devoid of any enjoyment.
I don't want Pulis to go - he has too much credit in the bank for me, but I'm very frustrated after last night.
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Post by swampmongrel on Feb 3, 2011 9:29:37 GMT
Premature.
Take a look at the end of the season and see if we've gone backwards (results wise) and then have the discussion.
Just because we've had a couple of bad months (which have seen us get a far from disastrous points haul and progression to the 5th round of the cup) doesn't really warrant this type of reaction.
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Post by ashbournepotter on Feb 3, 2011 9:32:33 GMT
70 million spent on players since we came up and we still play salif diao. says it all about tony pulis.
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