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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 27, 2023 20:08:24 GMT
He's played what pretty much everyone wanted.... Makes no odds - he's a fuckin clown and a complete and utter charlerton- even if we spawned a win tonight it'd make zero difference (IMHO) A charlatan with two promotions But I get it, you don't like the bloke, whatever happens now you'll be on his back.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 27, 2023 20:06:02 GMT
Fuck me the moaning on here, he's put out a set up people were moaning for and we're playing a Prem team, did people really think we were going to walk it?!?!
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 27, 2023 20:02:23 GMT
He's played what pretty much everyone wanted....
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 27, 2023 19:55:49 GMT
Well that's that.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 27, 2023 19:55:24 GMT
Probably pissing himself that we’ve managed to find a more delusional and halfwit manager than him No one can be more delusional if he thinks that.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 27, 2023 18:41:04 GMT
Johnson would more likely be in the middle I would have thought but who knows. Johnson is left footed. Play him on left. Put Bae in his best position in centre I'm not saying don't but he has already payed Bae on the left so I can see it happening.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 27, 2023 17:52:37 GMT
Pretty much looks like. A 4231 that everyone has been asking for. Plus he’s benched Laurent. Nobody can have any complaints given the players available. Probably just resting him for the game at the weekend 😶
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 27, 2023 17:50:39 GMT
I'd say so Bonham Hoever. Wilmot. Rose. Gooch ......Thompson.. Pearson... Leris...Junho....Johnson... .........big wes.......... Johnson would more likely be in the middle I would have thought but who knows.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 27, 2023 17:48:45 GMT
Better line up than Sunday 433, which have thought No doubt we will lose then it's back to a 5 I hope not, can't stand 4-3-3.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 27, 2023 17:47:38 GMT
4-2-3-1?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 27, 2023 17:45:35 GMT
You have Mmae, Vidigal, Juhno, Johnson, Haksabanovic, Campbell, Wesley, Pearson, Burger who will all expect to play. They wouldn't have signed otherwise. There is going to be disharmony soon if results don't improve Campbell hasn't signed has he?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 27, 2023 8:40:55 GMT
He still could have dealt with it even with the bounce but if not, just head it maybe. I know I'm in the minority and most actually think he's a good player, I just don't see it. He's good on the ball and he can make an eye catching pass. His positioning is terrible at times and he has a tendency to make mistakes that lead to goals on a regular basis. He's both a good and a bad player - depends what you choose to ignore. I prefer consistency and reliability over flair in a CB so unless he improves in that regard he wouldn't make my starting 11 - I'd actually start Rose and McNally and be looking to get better at the first opportunity. I don't think he's all that good on the ball tbh, he can ping it though to be fair to him. I think I said this before, but he reminds me of Stones, needs taking out of the side for a little while so he can work on things then be brought back the issue is we don't have any others to cover, it really is a massive bollock dropped.
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Wilmot
Sept 27, 2023 8:21:49 GMT
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 27, 2023 8:21:49 GMT
You're not going to include his tackles and passing (general, not just long punts up field) then? They aren't good. It's great that he's got two assists though, I'm expecting him to keep it up for the rest of the season given that's now a way to judge a defenders defensive ability I don't have those. Read the first words of my post though. I did and for ballance they should be in there really.
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Wilmot
Sept 26, 2023 21:51:59 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 26, 2023 21:51:59 GMT
He’s awful and has been since he got here. Alls this proves is that stats aren’t worth shit. The first goal sums him up. I don't like Wilmot but for balance this is why I cant cope Ben Wilmot ratings this season: Stoke 4-1 Rotherham, 8.8 Stoke 2-1 West Brom, 7.5 Ipswich 2-0 Stoke, 7.5 Stoke 1-0 Watford, 7.6 Millwall 1-0 Stoke, 7.2 Stoke 6-1 Rotherham, 6.8 (58 MP) Stoke 0-2 Preston, 7.1 Norwich 1-0 Stoke, 7.4 Huddersfield 2-2 Stoke, 7.5 7.9.23 Championship Assists Leaders Morgan Whittaker (3) Charlie Patino (3) Ryan Manning (2) Ben Wilmot (2) Duane Holmes (2) Outfielders who have completed the most long passes in the Championship: 1️⃣ Ben Wilmot - 51 2️⃣ Dom Hyam - 40 3️⃣ Wesley Hoedt - 39 4️⃣ Callum Doyle - 26 5️⃣ Kyle McFadzean - 24 ➡️ Semi Ajayi - 24 7️⃣ Zak Vyner - 23 Sam Morsy (2) Samuel Silvera (2) Gabriel (2) Mark Sykes (2) Jean Seri (2) Aerial duels won 1. Ben Wilmot 30 2. Jordan Hugill 25 3. Jordan Storey 24 4. Darren Lenihan 24 5. Kevin Long 24 You're not going to include his tackles and passing (general, not just long punts up field) then? They aren't good. It's great that he's got two assists though, I'm expecting him to keep it up for the rest of the season given that's now a way to judge a defenders defensive ability
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 26, 2023 21:38:44 GMT
What does the club is Toxic actually mean though? He's a manager, paid a good salary, allowed to sign a new squad practically without interference it seems and can't do the job. The fault for me lies with one person. I know other managers failed before but we're not the first relegated club not to reach the expectations ...Villa chopped and changed regularly and managers failed there before promotion. Sheff Weds, Leeds , Sunderland have dropped further than us and took a long time to get it right ..well better, not right as still at our level . Is about us getting the right man and everything is in place for him but not happened. Last 6 managers in a row have failed. Some of them failed very badly. They can't all be shit. My opinion. So yes there is something else somewhere in the club thats causing the problem. Atmosphere the club create? I don't know. Maybe like pubs, some have a good vibe and some don't, Stoke appears to have a bad vibe. Who knows. They can all be shit though. MON, zero real experience of club management at a decent level, did well in keeping us up using needs must then got his own ideas involved and it fell apart. Rowett, he's a solid Champ manager if you don't have too much ambition of promotion and spent a shit ton of money on solid if unspectacular Champ players. Jones, Luton is starting to seem a one off where it all fell into place for him. Maybe there's nothing toxic or whatever laying underneath and they are just a bit crap, it wouldn't be the first time a club constantly hires poor managers.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 26, 2023 20:09:23 GMT
no TV coverage yet again, crazy in this day and age. Bet there is for the next round when its mainly Prem sides left in! Given the other games that are on, would bother going to the effort and cost of putting it on for about 5 people to watch it?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 26, 2023 20:05:52 GMT
He got a pissy on with Ange when she asked about a left footed CB. I love the "I'm not stupid" bit well your not doing well in proving you're not Alex. For someone who’s notoriously coy on providing certain details, openly giving the entire league the blueprint to having success against Wilmot until we sign a left sided CB is just bizarre. Anyone with eyes can see Wilmot is a massive weak link
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 26, 2023 20:05:03 GMT
He needed to sign a consistent left back that’s the reason he’s playing 5 at the back right now just signing enda is piss poor Could have kept Fox, wasn't the greatest, certainly not the poorest, better than Rose and McNally, can play LB and left side CB Poor decision that's proving Was it their decision?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 26, 2023 20:01:19 GMT
Once you turn it back onto the fans it only ends one way. Bye bye Mr Neil Well he hasn't done it yet so I wouldn't worry about it.
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Wilmot
Sept 26, 2023 19:59:13 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 26, 2023 19:59:13 GMT
His part in Hull’s first goal wasn’t even his worst mistake on Sunday. His blind pass across our penalty area straight to a Hull player just sums him up for me. He’s incapable of getting through a game without making at least one catastrophic error. But the stats man, won't you think of the stats!
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Wilmot
Sept 26, 2023 19:57:42 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 26, 2023 19:57:42 GMT
Nope, I'm shit, and that means jack shit, he's a pro footballer there's no excuse to not be able to kick a ball with his non-dominant foot (goes for all of them tbf). Huth was a right sided defender and he did pretty well for us, so was Cort and again relatively speaking he did well for us too. Wilmot isn't suddenly fucking up because of his current position in a three, he's been a liability since he got here. I don't like stats particularly because they mostly ignore things like his weakness for the goal in the last game but for a defender his tackling and blocking stats are pretty awful, but yeh, he can lump it but can't pass it because they're pretty bad too. He wouldn’t have let that bounce of it was on the right in my opinion. And tbh I respect your opinion to disagree He still could have dealt with it even with the bounce but if not, just head it maybe. I know I'm in the minority and most actually think he's a good player, I just don't see it.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 26, 2023 19:56:04 GMT
How is he playing out of position, he's a centre back playing, errrrrrrrr, centre back. Back 3 and back 4 are very different. His mistakes aren't down to playing a back three, its down to weakness and poor ability, I'm all for him being someone to develop but its a massive worry that we rely on him to be a main man, he's one of the reasons we've been so poor at the back for some time. As an aside, and this isn't 100% down to him, the defence as a hole is conceding on average 1.5 goals a game and 1.05 last season, if that wasn't enough to rip it up and start again I don't know what is.
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Wilmot
Sept 26, 2023 19:51:48 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 26, 2023 19:51:48 GMT
How is he playing out of position, he's a centre back playing, errrrrrrrr, centre back. He’s on the left of a back three. It’s the same as a left winger playing on the right but with more chance of an error leading to goals. Have you played much in the past? I was a left winger (ironically), when I was asked to play on the right it was very difficult to adjust. I know these are pros but I imagine similar applies. In any case, he’s a right sided defender so play him there? Nope, I'm shit, and that means jack shit, he's a pro footballer there's no excuse to not be able to kick a ball with his non-dominant foot (goes for all of them tbf). Huth was a right sided defender and he did pretty well for us, so was Cort and again relatively speaking he did well for us too. Wilmot isn't suddenly fucking up because of his current position in a three, he's been a liability since he got here. I don't like stats particularly because they mostly ignore things like his weakness for the goal in the last game but for a defender his tackling and blocking stats are pretty awful, but yeh, he can lump it but can't pass it because they're pretty bad too.
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Wilmot
Sept 26, 2023 19:42:57 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 26, 2023 19:42:57 GMT
Frustratingly we know there is a player in Wilmott. He played for England youth while at Stevenage, which is pretty unusual. Usually the players come from man city youth , villa youth etc. He has quality on the ball for a young(ish ) championship defender. On a good day, he is very good. That said on Sunday v hull he had a mare . I do like him and suspect he will come good. My guess is by 25 , 26 years old, he is going to be a really good player. Completely different player to Vidigal but like Vidigal someone with real promise . My guess is he will come good and we should stick with him. A lot of guessing there mate😉 He’s just another playing out of position and being made a scapegoat for poor defensive displays. Yes he made a serious error for the first at the weekend but he shouldn’t be playing there, my bet is on the right that goes in rowZ. Neil is to blame here pure and simple. Play him on the right of two and he’s pretty good actually. Does a job and that’s all we need How is he playing out of position, he's a centre back playing, errrrrrrrr, centre back.
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Wilmot
Sept 26, 2023 19:29:37 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 26, 2023 19:29:37 GMT
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 26, 2023 15:54:21 GMT
Nothing has happened - Rotherham was a fluke against a rank poor side with 10 men Was WBA a fluke too?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 26, 2023 15:52:23 GMT
I'm not sure I've seen his comments from Sunday either tbh, if it's similar as today I'd guess there's there's nothing to it. He commented on the fans reaction, effectively saying they are entitled to do what they want, then added when we win its promotion time, when we lose its doom & gloom. Some truth in it but its a dig either way, and especially patronising after 4 defeats and a draw in our last 5 league games! I don't think that's a dig either, as you say, he's right. Just seems to me just pointing out that fans can flip game to game.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 26, 2023 15:37:42 GMT
Oh okay, I wouldn't call it having a go at the fans but he is wrong, plenty had a moan about the set up, people don't seem to like three at the back regardless of personnel chosen to play it. His petty comments on sunday were similar - not a full frontal attack but clearly showing his arse. As we know from experience its the start of a slippery slope! I'm not sure I've seen his comments from Sunday either tbh, if it's similar as today I'd guess there's there's nothing to it.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 26, 2023 15:36:07 GMT
I'm not as against the back three as a lot of others are, but I agree he needs to at least stick to one or the other for the time being. If we’d kept Tymon and signed Davies or Humphrey’s I wouldn’t have been dead against it either but we didn’t. This squad is built for 433 or 4231, nothing else. Tymon going isn't ideal but it hasn't been that big an issue for me, Johnson and gooch have done well enough covering. I'm in full agreement with you regarding a CB mind and it seemed like we were trying to get one in and it didn't work out, hopefully it's sorted in Jan. I'm not a fan of 4-3-3 tbh, it too easily turns into 4-5-1 with an isolated striker as we've seen under MON and AN.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 26, 2023 14:56:46 GMT
That hasn't been why its gone the way it has, the CBs aren't performing, losing Stevens hasn't been the big problem and if the CBs had been playing close to well enough it wouldn't have made much of a difference. Chopping and changing and pissing about with a back 3 isn’t helping them. Just play one of the right backs at left back and try and get some consistency. He’s over complicating things when he really doesn’t have to. I'm not as against the back three as a lot of others are, but I agree he needs to at least stick to one or the other for the time being.
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