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Post by independent on Sept 26, 2023 11:26:20 GMT
It is obvious that the manager is flailing around in a fog of Statistics,Tactics, Formations and Team Selection. Can anyone here help? Does he need a K.I.S.S. ? Keep It Simple Stupid.
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Post by cheadlepotter on Sept 26, 2023 11:31:11 GMT
It’s 4231/433 depending on who’s available and who we’re playing. That was seemingly what the summer window was built around.
Travers - Bonham
Gooch - Hoever Wilmot McNally - Rose Stevens - Tchamadeu
Pearson - Thompson Burger - Laurent - Sidibe
Vidigal - Campbell Junho - Johnson - Baker Haksabanovic - Leris
Wesley - Mmaee - Tezgel - Tealady - Gayle
Plenty of options on the wing for wingers or inside forwards, some full backs better defensively, some attacking, obvious differences between Wesley and Mmaee
EDIT - I may have been a bit too disrespectful to Gayle there, I didn’t think he was as bad as others last season and remember him playing a few wonderful passes from the left, but he looks so ‘done’ now.
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Post by wrexhamstokie90 on Sept 26, 2023 11:45:41 GMT
Majority of the fans know this but does Alex that’s what’s important
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Post by st3mark on Sept 26, 2023 11:48:12 GMT
Travers
Hoever Mcnally Wilmot Stevens/Gooch
Pearson Burger
Leris Bae Vidigal
Mmaee
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Post by lordb on Sept 26, 2023 11:53:10 GMT
who we playing? who is injured/suspended/off form/in the dog house due to all night piss ups? have we got another game in 3 days?
understand the sentiment of the op but just because he's tinkering far too much atm doesn't mean we should play the same 11 or formation every single game
something more towards a settled formation with a settled 8 or 9 players with others in & around would make sense to me with the ability to wheel out a different formation occasionally (& I mean occasionally not every other game)
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Post by ceejays on Sept 26, 2023 11:59:11 GMT
Travers. Gooch McNally Rose Junior Pearson burger hamsandwich Bae Vidigal mmeea subs. Bonham Wilmot Stevens Johnson Thompson Wesley Laurent sidiibe leris Gayle. Captain Pearson
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Post by itsmorethanagame on Sept 26, 2023 12:10:43 GMT
It’s hard to say for sure as we still haven’t seen much at all from the new players.
But a 4231 set up something like this looks good on paper:
Travers
Hoever, McNally, Wilmot, Stevens
Burger Pearson
Haksbanivic, Junho, Vidigal
Mmaee
With the most like for like replacements available coming in when there is injuries e.t.c
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Post by Simon Drainrod on Sept 26, 2023 12:15:21 GMT
It’s hard to say for sure as we still haven’t seen much at all from the new players. But a 4231 set up something like this looks good on paper: Travers Hoever, McNally, Wilmot, Stevens Burger Pearson Haksbanivic, Junho, Vidigal Mmaee With the most like for like replacements available coming in when there is injuries e.t.c This but at present Johnson instead of Juno and Gooch for Hoever until they bed in / regain form.
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Post by potters1 on Sept 26, 2023 12:20:13 GMT
Since we can’t stop letting in goals he simply needs to shore it up for a while, gain confidence as a group in not losing, and build a first 11 and familiarity. He’s chopped and changed with all the players he brought in but really needs to focus on a solid starting 11. He needs a defensive 6 and let 4 attack, keep it tight longer in games and let the front 4 find us a goal in a 4-2-3-1.
Travers
Gooch (more def than Hoever) Wilmot McNally (Rose is garbage and I can see why McNally replaced him at Coventry) Stephens
Pearson Burger (joins in when safe)
Vidigal Hak Leris
Big Wes (can play with feet and head in both boxes, and helps us play vs whatever the oppo does).
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Post by baconburger on Sept 26, 2023 12:53:19 GMT
Seems there’s nothing simple about it and there is very little unanimity on line ups because everyone has players they rate and those they don’t. Even with formation 4231 seems most popular but that’s probably because we don’t use it much, give it 2 or 3 games and folk would be in favour of something else.
Travers
Hoever McNally Wilmot Stevens
Pearson Burger
Campbell Haksabanovic Vidigal
Wesley or Mmaee(from evidence so far don’t think either are good enough)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2023 12:53:32 GMT
Let's be honest here, none of us have got the first clue what our best team is or could be.
Just like our manager.
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Post by cvillestokie on Sept 26, 2023 12:59:14 GMT
Travers
Gooch McNally Wilmot Stevens
Pearson Burger
Vidigal Bae Hakšabanović
Wesley
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Sept 26, 2023 13:04:00 GMT
It’s 4231/433 depending on who’s available and who we’re playing. That was seemingly what the summer window was built around. Travers - Bonham Gooch - Hoever Wilmot McNally - Rose Stevens - Tchamadeu Pearson - Thompson Burger - Laurent - Sidibe Vidigal - Campbell Junho - Johnson - Baker Haksabanovic - Leris Wesley - Mmaee - Tezgel - Tealady - Gayle Plenty of options on the wing for wingers or inside forwards, some full backs better defensively, some attacking, obvious differences between Wesley and Mmaee ^THIS^ Spot on. Although I've heard the tealady has a long term injury so perhaps the groundsman.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 26, 2023 13:04:04 GMT
A random 11 then chuck a few random subs on when behind and hope for the best when it's clearly not working, despite talking great tactics before and after the game.
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Post by willieeetmiout on Sept 26, 2023 13:11:48 GMT
You have Mmae, Vidigal, Juhno, Johnson, Haksabanovic, Campbell, Wesley, Pearson, Burger who will all expect to play.
They wouldn't have signed otherwise.
There is going to be disharmony soon if results don't improve
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2023 13:32:01 GMT
Travers
Junior McNally Wilmott Gooch
Pearson Burger
Haks DJ Vidigal
Wes
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Post by superpotter on Sept 26, 2023 21:16:54 GMT
Goalkeeper Any 9 defenders Wesley up top That should do it
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 26, 2023 21:19:20 GMT
When everyone is fit it’s this:
Travers
Gooch Wilmot McNally Stevens
Pearson Burger
Campbell* Bae Vidigal
Mmaee
*the Celtic man is an equally good answer.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 26, 2023 21:23:41 GMT
Travers
Gooch/Hoever Wilmot McNally Stevens
Burger Pearson
Haks Bae Vidigal
Mmaee/Wesley
We haven’t really seen Mmaee do a lot so it’s wishful thinking perhaps but the positive bits he did do make it seem like he’s a decent player
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Post by peterthornesboots on Sept 26, 2023 21:24:53 GMT
GK: Travers
RB: Hoever CB: Wilmot CB: Rose LB: Gooch
DMF: Pearson CMF: Johnson CMF: Jun-Ho
WNG: Vidigal WNG: Haksabanovic ST: Wesley
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Post by mrnovember on Sept 26, 2023 21:26:48 GMT
2 of our best attacking players are out injured for weeks, yet we still have shitloads of options. Don't be a fanny and use them.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 27, 2023 9:17:38 GMT
GK: Travers
RB: Hoever CB: Wilmot CB: McNally LB: Junior
DMF: Pearson DMF: Burger CMF: Johnson
WNG: Vidigal WNG: Haksabanovic ST: Wesley
Good side and far better than the one he’s been putting out recently.
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Post by clintonbaptiste on Sept 27, 2023 9:40:38 GMT
Travers
Gooch McNally Wilmott Stevens (when fit)
Leris or Haskabanovic Pearson Burger Vidigal
Junho
Mmaee
For four fucking two because we're not Man City and Neil is no Pep.
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Post by baconburger on Sept 27, 2023 12:25:49 GMT
Travers Gooch/Hoever Wilmot McNally Stevens Burger Pearson Haks Bae Vidigal Mmaee/Wesley We haven’t really seen Mmaee do a lot so it’s wishful thinking perhaps but the positive bits he did do make it seem like he’s a decent player I think he’s got a hell of a lot better in people’s minds since he hasn’t been playing (Mmaee).
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Post by baconburger on Sept 27, 2023 12:27:26 GMT
Travers Gooch McNally Wilmott Stevens (when fit) Leris or Haskabanovic Pearson Burger Vidigal Junho Mmaee For four fucking two because we're not Man City and Neil is no Pep. Despite the fact that very few teams play that formation, they must all be idiots.
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Post by Timmy on Sept 27, 2023 16:57:51 GMT
Travers
Hoever Wilmot McNally Gooch (OOP)
Laurent Pearson
Cheatcode (Hacker) Vidigal Campbell
Maaee
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Post by Timmy on Sept 27, 2023 16:58:54 GMT
Travers Gooch McNally Wilmott Stevens (when fit) Leris or Haskabanovic Pearson Burger Vidigal Junho Mmaee For four fucking two because we're not Man City and Neil is no Pep. Despite the fact that very few teams play that formation, they must all be idiots. Anyone playing the conventional 442 will get overloaded, there's a reason why it's dead in the water.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 27, 2023 17:45:35 GMT
You have Mmae, Vidigal, Juhno, Johnson, Haksabanovic, Campbell, Wesley, Pearson, Burger who will all expect to play. They wouldn't have signed otherwise. There is going to be disharmony soon if results don't improve Campbell hasn't signed has he?
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Post by willieeetmiout on Sept 27, 2023 20:24:56 GMT
You have Mmae, Vidigal, Juhno, Johnson, Haksabanovic, Campbell, Wesley, Pearson, Burger who will all expect to play. They wouldn't have signed otherwise. There is going to be disharmony soon if results don't improve Campbell hasn't signed has he? Is it hard work being a bell end all the time?
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Post by robstokie on Sept 28, 2023 6:19:21 GMT
Travers
Hoever Wilmot McNally Stevens
Pearson Burger
Haksabanovic DJ Vidigoal
Wesley
Fielding Rose Junior Thompson Sidibe Campbell Bae Tezgel Mmaee
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