|
Post by GoBoks on Mar 19, 2022 18:05:01 GMT
"Most people" being you and your 3 friends? I didn’t know I had that many friends to be fair but great I’ll see if they fancy a drink sometime. But you will have to tell me who they are Rofl.... could be a cheap round if you don't mention it to too many!
|
|
|
Post by GoBoks on Mar 19, 2022 18:02:33 GMT
Because we are Stoke. Those are the fans who when we were 7-0 down against Liverpool were singing we're going to score 8. Never give up. If everyone did, Stoke City would have died a long long time ago. Yeah, because we are really striving at the moment aren't we 🙄 When does a team need their fans cheering them on? When they're coasting to another 5-0 victory, or when the chips are down?
|
|
|
Post by GoBoks on Mar 19, 2022 18:01:04 GMT
Because you sound incredibly angry over what is a game. Apologies if I offended you👍🏻 I'm not angry mate, the "where are all of the people who..." threads piss me off. Its laughable that we have won 1 game and people are starting threads like this I understand. For me it's all the "Everything Stoke is Crap" threads that proliferate the board that piss me off.
|
|
|
Post by GoBoks on Mar 19, 2022 17:58:46 GMT
I was busy being unhappy that Stoke lost. Today I'm celebrating and thought I'd come on here to celebrate with the only people I know who even know what Stoke City is ..... Looks like I stumbled on the Fart Pail Board instead. C'mon you Mighty Potters! No, you thought you'd play the "smarmy arsehole" card because we've won our FIRST game in NINE... Nothing about wanting to celebrate and all about trying to trigger people to a reaction because you think that you're point is proven because of a win that has kept us in 15tg position I'm sorry you're unhappy. I'm happy! Stoke won. MON In. Life is good! I've found that after a bad result, it helps to step away from all things Stoke for a few hours and focus on the important things in life. You should give it a try .... oh wait ... it wasn't a bad result.
|
|
|
Post by GoBoks on Mar 19, 2022 17:56:34 GMT
It just adds to the frustration with me. A manager more bold in selection and tactics can get far more out of this squad and that's fundamentally a problem with MON. He showed he could do it when he first came when we simply had to win games then he reverted back to his comfort blanket. Today was good but not sure it changes the bigger picture one jot. Interesting! Perhaps you've stumbled on the solution? Give him a short term, "back's against the wall" goal to achieve at regular intervals. "Save us from dead cert relegation" - He did it! "Win this game or you're fired" - He did it. "Get us promoted within 3 years" - Hmmm jury is still out - we'll know next season.
|
|
|
Post by GoBoks on Mar 19, 2022 17:48:27 GMT
C'Mon you mighty Potters! Where were your stupid threads created after each of our last 8 games that we failed to win? I was busy being unhappy that Stoke lost. Today I'm celebrating and thought I'd come on here to celebrate with the only people I know who even know what Stoke City is ..... Looks like I stumbled on the Fart Pail Board instead. C'mon you Mighty Potters!
|
|
|
Post by GoBoks on Mar 19, 2022 17:46:17 GMT
First step and all that, hope he stays and goes from strength to strength. We have all wanted that at some point but he hasn’t got it in him sadly. He’s made that many mistakes you couldn’t list them all. If today’s result keeps him in a job it’s a bad day for Stoke city. Most people can see he’s not upto it "Most people" being you and your 3 friends?
|
|
|
Post by GoBoks on Mar 19, 2022 17:43:45 GMT
First step and all that, hope he stays and goes from strength to strength. Think he’s been trying your way for two seasons and it’s not worked , if you’re happy with mid table , poor football , 3 wins in 20 then ONearlys your man In actual fact, it's 13 wins out of 38. The first 6 months were a rescue job. The first full season (massively disrupted by Covid) was a clearing the decks job. This season has begun the building job and frankly, the fact that in 18 months MON has taken us from dead cert relegation fodder to everyone being angry we're not in the playoffs is a testament to the good work he has done.
|
|
|
Post by GoBoks on Mar 19, 2022 17:39:25 GMT
It could have been Real Madrid, but a certain crowd would still find reasons why it shouldn't count. On the flip side, we could lose 6-0 to Accrington Stanley and a certain crowd would still find reasons that it wasn't certain people's fault and would continue to clap like seals Because we are Stoke. Those are the fans who when we were 7-0 down against Liverpool were singing we're going to score 8. Never give up. If everyone did, Stoke City would have died a long long time ago.
|
|
|
Post by GoBoks on Mar 19, 2022 17:37:25 GMT
I'm really not Jacobs biggest fan, I think his touch and decision making are average at best, but currently he is the best striker at the club by a mile With no time to think he has a good shot and instinct to finish, unlike when he skied a simpler chance from a cross on Sat - his actual goal was brilliant However many times he received the ball with back to goal, had a simple lay off to give and go but tries to turn and dribble 3 defenders and usually loses it - if he can develop that part of his game/decision making he will be a better player for it. His effort/fitness isn't in question The alternatives are a really unfit Campbell who needs a good pre season running up hills Fletcher has deteriorated as a footballer quite badly over the past 18 months - offers little to nothing! Maja I've seen enough of to know he isn't what we need at all - he has a good touch but is painfully slow and despite that early goal isn't clinical at all Sima I don't think we will see at all in the first team, and I've only seen about 60 mins of him! Now that the season is fizzling out, do we have a look at Tegzel and what he can offer? Do we get DWP on the pitch more? Has MoN seen enough of Jayden that its not a long term solution? Our u23s seem to hold their own, is there not a young energetic striker in there we can look at? Yes please, give Tezgel a run of games to see how he shapes up. The experiance of playing consistently at this level without the pressure of every game being a must win will do him a lot of good.
|
|
|
Post by GoBoks on Mar 19, 2022 17:30:18 GMT
One swallow and all that , hope he does the decent thing and resigns First step and all that, hope he stays and goes from strength to strength.
|
|
|
Post by GoBoks on Mar 19, 2022 17:28:21 GMT
About the same as 13 wins. And that’s good enough is it?? No, but it's not the end of the world either, just like 15 losses is not the end of the world. Tell me again how many seasons in the more than 134 years since our first season that Stoke have recorded more league wins than losses?
|
|
|
Post by GoBoks on Mar 19, 2022 17:24:44 GMT
now what am I going to moan about. Biden?
|
|
|
Post by GoBoks on Mar 19, 2022 17:23:59 GMT
I hope this isn't a "Watford moment" a win where we never looked in trouble but Millwall are the worst team we've played this season and it was turgid to watch for 80%. 2 poor teams slogging it out. That was Millwall's first loss in 9, 6 of which they've won... It could have been Real Madrid, but a certain crowd would still find reasons why it shouldn't count.
|
|
|
Post by GoBoks on Mar 19, 2022 17:22:34 GMT
For the fellow who was on here wishing Stoke lose and complaining that with his luck we'll probably scrape a flukey 1-0 win and be stuck with MON ....... You've got really shit luck. An easy 2-0 win...... C'mon You Mighty Potters! Yeh - that was MoN ........ I'm sure he knows who he is.
|
|
|
Post by GoBoks on Mar 19, 2022 17:21:36 GMT
O’Neill in until the end of the season. Judge him then. He could win every game from here till the end of the season and the same crowd would still be wanting him out. All you have to do is remember the "Hughes out" before he even arrived. There are some absolute tosspots in the world!
|
|
|
Post by GoBoks on Mar 19, 2022 17:18:06 GMT
About the same as 13 wins.
|
|
|
Post by GoBoks on Mar 19, 2022 17:17:01 GMT
For the fellow who was on here wishing Stoke lose and complaining that with his luck we'll probably scrape a flukey 1-0 win and be stuck with MON ....... You've got really shit luck. An easy 2-0 win...... C'mon You Mighty Potters!
|
|
|
Post by GoBoks on Mar 19, 2022 17:13:08 GMT
He’s going nowhere😀 Job saver One win does not a season make as Aristotle would say Nor does one loss.
|
|
|
Post by GoBoks on Mar 19, 2022 17:11:50 GMT
Pulis. Fans wanted him gone. Next season he wins manager of the year. Hughes. Fans wanted him gone. In hindsight he probably would have picked up enough points to keep us up. Lambert. Placeholder. Rowett. Fans wanted him gone. He’d done great with Derby and is doing great with Millwall. Jones. Fans wanted him gone. He worked miracles with Luton prior to Stoke and has got them with a sniff of auto promotion now. O’Neill. Fans want him gone. He improved NI’s ranking 100 places. He’s taken us from relegation fodder to having promise for the future. Fickle, yes, but that’s the nature of most people when things aren’t going the way they want them to go. All I’m asking for is a little patience. MON has not yet had 2 full seasons. I’m tired of saying “Wow, look at what x manager did after he left us”. As for your comment on Jones, he had passion and enthusiasm in spades. Now we complain that MON doesn’t show enough passion. I think the more pressure you put on someone, the more anxious and prone to making mistakes they are. Something like the excellent secretary who makes typo after typo when the boss is standing over their shoulder commenting on their work. I do agree with you that many fans are too quick to turn, but are you saying it was the wrong decision to sack every one of those? I was disappointed when Pulis was sacked, but with hindsight, it was the right decision. Hughes wouldn't have kept us up. He had the same PPG as Lambert but over more games and a massively worse goal difference. Hughes should've been sacked sooner. I didn't think Lambert was all that bad and probably would've done better than Rowett. Rowett's job became untenable. As did Jones', but for different reasons. O'Neill, I've wanted to be given until next season, but things got so bad (until today), I've been on the fence for the past couple of weeks but hoping he can turn things around and be given next season. No, not for a moment. I'm saying that the pressure created by a hostile atmosphere doesn't help the manager one little bit. I liken it to a normally excellent typist who suddenly has 2 left hands when the boss is standing over them telling them to hurry and commenting on every comma out of place.
|
|
|
Post by GoBoks on Mar 19, 2022 17:08:51 GMT
C'Mon you mighty Potters!
|
|
|
Post by GoBoks on Mar 19, 2022 12:46:22 GMT
Knowing our luck tomorrow will be another 'Hughes at Watford' Sliding Doors moment where we'll scrape a spawny 1-0 win, Midtable Mike will remain in situ and the slightest hope of meaningful change will have disappeared over the horizon Tomorrow, I'd take that like a shot and leave the other shit until later. OS. I’m with you OS. No matter what the circumstances, I can’t believe that any Stokie would want us to lose!
|
|
|
Post by GoBoks on Mar 19, 2022 12:30:05 GMT
Pulis. Fans wanted him gone. Next season he wins manager of the year. Hughes. Fans wanted him gone. In hindsight he probably would have picked up enough points to keep us up. Lambert. Placeholder. Rowett. Fans wanted him gone. He’d done great with Derby and is doing great with Millwall. Jones. Fans wanted him gone. He worked miracles with Luton prior to Stoke and has got them with a sniff of auto promotion now. O’Neill. Fans want him gone. He improved NI’s ranking 100 places. He’s taken us from relegation fodder to having promise for the future. Fickle, yes, but that’s the nature of most people when things aren’t going the way they want them to go. All I’m asking for is a little patience. MON has not yet had 2 full seasons. I’m tired of saying “Wow, look at what x manager did after he left us”. As for your comment on Jones, he had passion and enthusiasm in spades. Now we complain that MON doesn’t show enough passion. I think the more pressure you put on someone, the more anxious and prone to making mistakes they are. Something like the excellent secretary who makes typo after typo when the boss is standing over their shoulder commenting on their work. Just to be clear, you're blaming the fans for both our decline and every one of those managers being sacked? Why do you think the fans wanted them gone, out of interest? No, I am not blaming the fans solely. There are so many factors that play into it. All I’m saying is we’re very quick to demand “whoever out”, but that hasn’t proven to always be the right decision. The added pressure certainly doesn’t help the manager.
|
|
|
Post by GoBoks on Mar 18, 2022 12:01:50 GMT
Man in million pound job turns on innocent crowd for no apparent reason. I couldn't be bothered to drag them up, but you know as well as I do that the atmosphere was absolutely toxic on here and in the stands. Ahhhh poor Gary, he was such a nice man. * I guess Jones doesn't fit your nasty fickle crowd profile, on reflection? Pulis. Fans wanted him gone. Next season he wins manager of the year. Hughes. Fans wanted him gone. In hindsight he probably would have picked up enough points to keep us up. Lambert. Placeholder. Rowett. Fans wanted him gone. He’d done great with Derby and is doing great with Millwall. Jones. Fans wanted him gone. He worked miracles with Luton prior to Stoke and has got them with a sniff of auto promotion now. O’Neill. Fans want him gone. He improved NI’s ranking 100 places. He’s taken us from relegation fodder to having promise for the future. Fickle, yes, but that’s the nature of most people when things aren’t going the way they want them to go. All I’m asking for is a little patience. MON has not yet had 2 full seasons. I’m tired of saying “Wow, look at what x manager did after he left us”. As for your comment on Jones, he had passion and enthusiasm in spades. Now we complain that MON doesn’t show enough passion. I think the more pressure you put on someone, the more anxious and prone to making mistakes they are. Something like the excellent secretary who makes typo after typo when the boss is standing over their shoulder commenting on their work.
|
|
|
Post by GoBoks on Mar 18, 2022 0:41:19 GMT
Of course they were hounded out of the club! Do you think they had the fans undying commitment and support? Rubbish and I would hazard a guess you know it! They were justifiably sacked for turning on the crowd, in Rowetts case, and overseeing the worst tenure in Stoke history in Jones' case. The Coates's removed them for those reasons and it was their decision and theirs alone. Man in million pound job turns on innocent crowd for no apparent reason. I couldn't be bothered to drag them up, but you know as well as I do that the atmosphere was absolutely toxic on here and in the stands.
|
|
|
Post by GoBoks on Mar 17, 2022 22:43:08 GMT
I'll bookmark this, and revisit in 3 years & we'll have progressed yet further, to cement 11th place. Hold tight, this'll be one hell of a ride!! I'll settle for 11th in the Prem in 3 years!
|
|
|
Post by GoBoks on Mar 17, 2022 22:40:37 GMT
Thank you for support, friends. Here in Ukraine we do feel it. Sorry for not posting too often. Hard to find words. Disaster. russian fascists must be stopped. I don't know how people can do such things. they kill civilians. Women, children. Mariupol, Kharkiv, Chernihiv... Having very big losses in fights with Ukrainian army, they started using their dirty Syrian tacktics: bombing and shelling from distance. And they bomb peaceful cities and villages. I am sure you follow the news. It is impossible, just impossible to describe or explain what is going on here. Please, help Ukraine and help World to stop russian hitler now. Let us stay really united. Glory to Ukraine🇺🇦 Great to hear from you Den. We are praying for you. Wish our leaders would do more. Keep up the good fight and stay safe!
|
|
|
Post by GoBoks on Mar 17, 2022 22:26:39 GMT
Interesting that managers of two of those clubs were hounded out of Stoke but are now used as examples to compare MON against. So you're saying Jones and Rowett were 'hounded' out of the club, yes? Of course they were hounded out of the club! Do you think they had the fans undying commitment and support?
|
|
|
Post by GoBoks on Mar 17, 2022 22:25:22 GMT
Thats a formation for games, What i mean by plan B is a reaction to events on the field when we get sussed He did last night not that it made any difference. As I say Tymon and also Brown and Wilmot were moved. We make too many changes instead of making thins work. The changes never result in an improvement just confusion. Call me a one eyed red tinted glasses guy, but I think it's a matter of inches. Small mistakes and lackadaisically placed balls, etc. I hope he can get them to click and then I think we will see a totally different result.
|
|
|
Post by GoBoks on Mar 17, 2022 22:17:33 GMT
Definitely needed another thread. You’ll keep on piping up though mate😉 Sometimes several threads are needed on something as important to fans as this subject as the crux of the OP would get lost in the “O’Neill Out Now” thread. I for one would prefer to get my point across on a thread which is a little more specific. For once..... we are 100% in agreement! I can't stand threads that started 2 years ago and just because it's about the same player, they get lumped together. Makes reading this board hard work.
|
|