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Post by Titan Uranus on Oct 8, 2015 8:24:51 GMT
The most written off team in PL history by who? Polis would love you to believe that and kept telling us so that it made him look good. A publicity stunt by a betting co after 1 game does not give any credence to the claim either. If you want teams who are the most written off in PL history there are plenty stronger contenders than we were. Swansea for one and they've done better than us. This season Watford and Bournemouth have been written off more than we ever were by the pundits it's just that they don't talk themselves down like our manager and many of our fans. We have some serious inferiority complexes on here and your post is right up there. There is no reason and was no reason that we shouldn't have been competitive as soon as we landed here. It wasn't a fucking miracle performed by some messiah that we were! BM I kind of feel sorry for you. Your blind hatred caused you to resent everything that was good about the ride. You can't go from 4th bottom in the championship to 11th in the top flight, a cup final and Europe without having some good times. Or is that being brainwashed as well? Waddo holds the record for 1-0 wins in our history. What a terrible time the late 60s and 70s were Makes you wonder if there is any other Football Club that can so disrespect their second bestest ever Manager. Promotion FA Cup Final (first time ever) Safety in the Prem New Identity to the Club Sack Completely disrespect and disregard his achievments. Amazing
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Post by Titan Uranus on Oct 7, 2015 21:53:00 GMT
The voice of reason speaks... We were the most written off team in PL history. Pulis' achievements were outstanding with our football club TD I thought you had more sense than this, evidently not. The most written off team in PL history by who? Polis would love you to believe that and kept telling us so that it made him look good. A publicity stunt by a betting co after 1 game does not give any credence to the claim either. If you want teams who are the most written off in PL history there are plenty stronger contenders than we were. Swansea for one and they've done better than us. This season Watford and Bournemouth have been written off more than we ever were by the pundits it's just that they don't talk themselves down like our manager and many of our fans. We have some serious inferiority complexes on here and your post is right up there. There is no reason and was no reason that we shouldn't have been competitive as soon as we landed here. It wasn't a fucking miracle performed by some messiah that we were! BM Wow This is bit like a Monty Python sketch.. You know ... What did Tony Pulis ever do for us? ..
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Post by Titan Uranus on Oct 7, 2015 21:31:45 GMT
I just think a lot of people are frustrated that it wasn't done with the finesse of Swansea, who spent less, won a trophy, swapped managers willy nilly and played better football with a more solid infastructure, which blew apart the theory that you had to spend over the odds on british based players and strangle the life out of games in order to survive. I don't understand why certain people get over defensive when our ex manager is questioned or criticised on it. I remember Rodgers and Martinez but I can't recall Willy Nilly....was he Dutch?? No...that was Willy Van Nilly
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Post by Titan Uranus on Oct 7, 2015 20:15:36 GMT
I just think a lot of people are frustrated that it wasn't done with the finesse of Swansea, who spent less, won a trophy, swapped managers willy nilly and played better football with a more solid infastructure, which blew apart the theory that you had to spend over the odds on british based players and strangle the life out of games in order to survive. I don't understand why certain people get over defensive when our ex manager is questioned or criticised on it. Because it's now been proved beyond all reasonable doubt that they were talking out of their arses? What has been proved beyond reasonable doubt?
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Post by Titan Uranus on Oct 7, 2015 18:49:24 GMT
Mate of mine, who follows the baggies, says we are a bunch of ungrateful twats and calls us Stokylona.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Oct 6, 2015 20:17:12 GMT
Return for the Jedi
in January
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Post by Titan Uranus on Oct 6, 2015 18:38:10 GMT
For me the 1st season in the prem takes some beating for the all round match day experience having gone to every game that season. Yep. Hairs on the back of your neck moments. I've seen the previous Tony's time... Hillsborough 1971 will always be a stand out. Wembley with Pulis smashing Bolton though and that first year in the Prem will always be a close second. FFS can't we leave the guy alone and give him a tiny bit of reverance.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Oct 6, 2015 17:50:09 GMT
The words "jump" and "conclusions" immediately spring to mind. As a matter of interest, what's your definition of drunk? People don't normally act in this manner if not intoxicated, and it has been stated that they had already been turfed out of several other pubs. I doubt they were drinking spring water in all these places. If these guys and gals were "drunk" and overstepping the mark they should have been dealt with by the police and not some crazy barmaid/landlady who could have seriously damaged someone.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Oct 6, 2015 14:01:59 GMT
We've already established that police aren't that interested in this, but if I'd been there, there's at least a couple of other options there. For starters, a complaint to the Health & Safety Executive seems to be in order. Those guys do NOT mess around, and they have the power to withdraw licenses or start a prosecution themselves if there's a breach of the regulations. Like this one, for example: Or this one: Given that the chemicals in foam fire extinguishers can be carcinogenic, it'd be hard to say that exposing customers to it isn't a risk to their health. And for everyone else, the pub has decided as part of its fire risk assessment that a fire extinguisher should be in the location she took it from - that means they have a duty to maintain it in working order. By setting it off for fun, she's compromised the safety of every customer in the pub. I'd also be writing a letter to the management of the pub, enclosing a list of any of my property which was damaged as a result of the actions of their staff. That foam is designed to put out fires, not to come off easily - there's a strong chance that anything they're wearing that's come into contact with it is going to be ruined. Certainly any phones are likely to have had the water detector activated, so they'll no longer have any warranty even if they still actually work. I would imagine a couple of claims for replacement iPhones would focus the landlords mind wonderfully about the attitudes of his staff. Spot-on. She was bang out of order. I would hope that someone who was there and involved in this incident has made an official complaint. Either to the Brewery, Police or HSE. *Unless there is something that we don't know about
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Post by Titan Uranus on Oct 6, 2015 12:15:00 GMT
Leaving TP to one side for a moment Malcolm, and looking solely at the point you make about the results/entertainment debate, I have to disagree. Of course there has to be a balance. You can't go all out to score goals whilst completely neglecting the defensively side of the game, as Wigan seemed to do when they eventually went down. But surely entertainment has to be top of the priority list for supporters? We're not Chairmen, stakeholders, or managers of a business, we're passionate supporters. The lifeblood of the game. For many of us it was our fathers favourite past time and if we're lucky enough, we'll get to share it with our kids when the time arrives. I will enever accept that results are king over the performance and entrainment served up. Of course, throughout the course of a season a team will win ugly and scrape out results. In fact, that's normally the sign of a good side. I still expect a team to go out and play a bit over the course of 38 games or whatever a season may hold. We did fantastic to get promotion and even better to fight and battle to secure our place in the top flight but we were always going to reach a point where expectations were heightened. The squad has been invested in heavily and that should be reflected on the pitch. This isn't a dig at Pulis either. He gave me some of my best ever moments as a Stoke fan and will rightly go down as a legend. It was absolutely the right decision to get rid of him though. The results had deteriorated over a long period of time and the performances were absolutely dire. He probably would have kept us up again had he stayed but all the enjoyment of match day had sapped away and we should expect more than that. He got backed heavily and, truth be told, completely lost his way in the end. Hughes came in and was a breath of fresh air. He gave us much needed impetus, positivity and bought back the feelgood factor. The parting of the ways probably helped TP too as he went to Palace and inherited a team full of pace and trickery and utilised it in a way which he failed to do in his last 18 months at Stoke. Results are obviously massively important but it will never take precedence over enjoyment for me. I want to be entertained. I want to be on the edge of my seat. I want the Arnie's, Bojan's and Shaqiri's and I want to see them tearing the opposition apart. It costs too much money and takes up too much of our time for it simply to be about the result. When my lads old enough to come with me in a few years time it won't matter to me what league we're in. I had to put the hard yards in during some of the turgid stuff served up in League One so I don't see why he should have it easy! It's a massice cliche but being a Stoke fan is something that's in the blood. When you invest in something with such emotion it can never be just about the result. I'd rate some of the Championship moments with the magic of Ric over some of the utterly miserable periods in the Premier League when we offered next to nothing in terms of entertainment. That's a pretty good piece of writing whyd . On reflection, I sort of half agree with you. I take a very different view when I'm watching Stoke to when I'm watching a game as a neutral, either live or on TV. For me, when it's Stoke, the result is the only thing which really matters. If you can get it by a 6-1 rather than a 1-0 then, of course, so much the better, but better the scrappy 1-0 than say a 3-3. But I also think, as is often the case on this board, there is a tendency to see things as black and white when the reality is multiple shades of grey. What gives fans "entertainment" ? ( although for me Stoke winning is 'entertainment' by definition and I feel good when it happens, whatever happened in the game). It is presumably goal scoring opportunities and penalty box action. But that can happen in different ways. Rory hurling a throw into the box or a long punt from Ryan or Huth aimed at Kenwyn or Mama Sidibe to flick it on for Fuller or whoever, to run onto, can be more exciting that our back 4 repeatedly passing it around between them in our own half which we often do at the moment (which sometimes both bores me and worries me silly - it has been interesting this season that there have been quite a few PL goals conceeded, not by us, by defenders messing around rather than getting rid) . I rather agree with Peter Coates when he said what matters is not whether it's a long ball or a short ball but whether it's a good ball. But like you I also look forward to the prospect of players like Arnie, Bojan and hopefully Shaq ( if and when he produces the form we know he's capable of) creating those chances. But no-one could say that, for example, Fuller or Etherington, two of TP's stalwarts, were not also exciting players. Football matches are won by scoring more goals than the opposition and drawn by not conceeding more goals than the opposition. We are not, thankfully, like rugby where you get bonus points for extra tries. Therefore the only "good football" in my view is football which increases the probability of doing those things. That's why I think all these "possession" stats are often irrelevant, and the expression "a footballing side" is near meaningless. It's where you have the possession and what you do with it that matters. Last season we got our highest points total in the PL , so in that sense by my definition it was the best football we have played in the PL - long may it continue. Just as a matter of interest... Did you agree with the sacking of TP?
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Post by Titan Uranus on Oct 3, 2015 19:25:57 GMT
I hate the twat even more than Arsehole Wingher at the moment. That's saying something.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Oct 3, 2015 16:39:28 GMT
Nice bloke isn't he?
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Post by Titan Uranus on Sept 29, 2015 22:18:24 GMT
Don't talk daft. He's a professional football manager. What did you expect him to do ....to the Club that sacked him without a shred of remorse. After a period of unparalled success. .....act with a but more decorum or class perhaps? - ah no you are right we are talking about Pulis here...........and was he really sacked?? Thought he was on a rolling 12 month contract that could be paid up at any time - you'll have me filling up for him next!!, Ok mate No worries He was on a wedge we can only dream about He took us up He kept us there He made Stoke City FC. a famous name again, Yeh...right wanker
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Post by Titan Uranus on Sept 29, 2015 22:14:10 GMT
That's his job, WE SACKED HIM And rightly so, he was found out and turfed out. Fook me The wonder of peoples sensibilities
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Post by Titan Uranus on Sept 29, 2015 22:11:46 GMT
As I said earlier If you are a Stoke fan how can you disrespect one of our former greatest managers? As easily as he disrespected us, he shocked quite a few who previously held him in high esteem, in fact he made himself look a right c**t. See above
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Post by Titan Uranus on Sept 29, 2015 22:09:19 GMT
As I said earlier If you are a Stoke fan how can you disrespect one of our former greatest managers? The same way he disrespected us the other week. That's his job, WE SACKED HIM
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Post by Titan Uranus on Sept 29, 2015 22:03:45 GMT
Don't talk daft. He's a professional football manager. What did you expect him to do ....to the Club that sacked him without a shred of remorse. After a period of unparalled success. Ha ha, good old TP. Â He did a right number on a good few Stokies holding him up as the paradigm of virtue the other week. Â Proper mugged you all off he did. I bet my balls to a barn dance he's still pissing himself over it. As I said earlier If you are a Stoke fan how can you disrespect one of our former greatest managers?
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Post by Titan Uranus on Sept 29, 2015 21:21:25 GMT
Don't know what agenda you on mate But pretty clear to me.... I didn't like some of Tone's football philosophy... But now ..after a lot of retrospect , I believe that he deserves to be put on a "Greatest Stoke City Heroes" mantle. And I'm not taking the piss. Yeah ok then. I truely believe you. Whatever If you are a SCFC fan then you cannot think any different. If you do ...then you have a serious agenda that needs sorting,
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Post by Titan Uranus on Sept 29, 2015 21:17:56 GMT
Jesus Christ, go follow the Baggies will you? At least till we erect a gold plated statue of TP outside the Boothen. I suppose you will come back then. Check Titans post history then just ignore is probably the best idea. Don't know what agenda you on mate But pretty clear to me.... I didn't like some of Tone's football philosophy... But now ..after a lot of retrospect , I believe that he deserves to be put on a "Greatest Stoke City Heroes" mantle. And I'm not taking the piss.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Sept 29, 2015 21:07:28 GMT
Hahaha "Oatcake Inner Circle" You on the wrong map matey haha That doesn't make sense, matey. That's what I said.. You're on the wrong map.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Sept 29, 2015 21:04:07 GMT
Sorry but (for me sitting pretty close to the dugout) he showed his true colours and lack of respect for the club and fans that gave him the opportunity to become a success (and a multi-millionaire) when he was screaming at the ref, liner and 4th official the other week trying to get even more of our side booked / sent off - he can fuck off and die for me now............he'll take the Baggies down for sure now he's been found out........... Don't talk daft. He's a professional football manager. What did you expect him to do ....to the Club that sacked him without a shred of remorse. After a period of unparalled success.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Sept 29, 2015 20:50:24 GMT
You used to take the piss out of the baggies cuz they wanted to play "football" You wanted to play "football" Why were you laughing at them? What happened to archiesdad?......the u turn is akin to David Cameron turning into Arthur Scargill Don't be daft mate I'm a Social Democrat. Whatever your personal views on Tony Pulis... I just don't like this undeserved bile and crap that is being directed to OUR former and distinguished manager. He doesn't deserve it ...seriously,
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Post by Titan Uranus on Sept 29, 2015 20:36:04 GMT
For 20 years wba have been held up for everything we laugh at and take the piss out of but now the Pulis taliban have them as their 2nd team and not to be laughed at anymore because he is their manager Its beyond pathetic You used to take the piss out of the baggies cuz they wanted to play "football" You wanted to play "football" Why were you laughing at them?
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Post by Titan Uranus on Sept 29, 2015 20:27:35 GMT
HE IS AN OPPOSITION MANAGER WE CAN TAKE THE PISS OUT OF HIM ALL WE LIKE. For fucks sake, the Tony Pulis Barmy Army really are a dangerous bunch of characters. Anybody who takes the piss out of Tony Pulis is hereby guilty of Treason against Stoke City Football Club and shall face trial in front of the Supreme Court of Supporters, headed by Councillor Anthony Pulis Jnr. and accompanied by members of the Oatcake Fanzine elite posters. Your punishment will most likely be the cancellation of Season Tickets and the banishment from all future SCFC matches. Irrespective of the fact he is an opposition manager, even if people overstep the line in the piss taking, this is an opinion board and everyone is entitled to voice it without being made out they are the worst Stoke fan in history by the Oatcake Inner Circle. Hahaha "Oatcake Inner Circle" You on the wrong map matey haha
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Post by Titan Uranus on Sept 29, 2015 20:21:02 GMT
Wonder when we will stop talking about Sir Tony? He's a top class manager who deserves our respect. Who did a magnificent job at our Club. Let it go. You could always practice what you preach. This thread disintegrated into a Pulis bashing hate fest. What's that got to do with me?
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Post by Titan Uranus on Sept 29, 2015 20:09:00 GMT
"The rehabilitated Berahino, making his first appearance at The Hawthorns since the opening-game defeat by Manchester City, occupies the same talismanic territory for West Brom as Barkley for Everton. The difference is the constraint imposed upon him by the organisation favoured by Pulis. He was like a Porsche stuck in traffic for much of the first half, throatily waiting for a gap through which to rip. He had one chance to put his foot down and left the Everton defence for dead." (Telegraph match report) As opposed to a Porsche dumped at a Spanish railway station... ;-) Jesus Why this putrid, hatred towards one of our greatest managers? Some sad individuals on this messageboard.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Sept 29, 2015 19:56:56 GMT
Wonder when we will stop talking about Sir Tony?
He's a top class manager who deserves our respect. Who did a magnificent job at our Club.
Let it go.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Sept 29, 2015 19:21:00 GMT
I think SJW is looking at three or four players on three or four times his wages and getting a tad frustrated. Given his commitment and performances over the last few years who can blame him.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Sept 29, 2015 19:08:55 GMT
Most of these ex-players and managers are full of shit ..... With the exception of .... Mike Pejic Lou Macari Danny Higg Dennis Smith Alan Hudson Foghorn Big Chris Sir Jimmy And Andy Griffin
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Post by Titan Uranus on Sept 29, 2015 17:37:22 GMT
He actually said that Arnie did well but let himself down by bringing up his inconsistency. Well, no shit Sherlock. Arnie's a winger and as a former professional Griff should know full well that wingers are notoriously inconsistent, even the great Ginola. Name one winger we've had who hasn't had you tearing your hair out at times. Stanley Matthews
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