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Post by Trouserdog on Oct 4, 2015 8:57:40 GMT
westbrom.com/forum/index.php?topic=15324.4125 ??? Lots of the old classics seem to be present: players out of position, no ambition away from home, zero entertainment, fans vowing not to go again while TP remains in charge... As bad as The Baggies look though, I very much doubt they'll go down. There are always just enough 1-0 home wins in the Pulis locker to grind his way over the line, plus he is the luckiest manager in football- always managing to fluke an undeserved result every time the vultures start to circle.
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Post by whydelilah on Oct 4, 2015 8:59:06 GMT
westbrom.com/forum/index.php?topic=15324.4125 ??? Lots of the old classics seem to be present: players out of position, no ambition away from home, zero entertainment, fans vowing not to go again while TP remains in charge... As bad as The Baggies look though, I very much doubt they'll go down. There are always just enough 1-0 home wins in the Pulis locker to grind his way over the line, plus he is the luckiest manager in football- always managing to fluke an undeserved result every time the vultures start to circle. He won't change. And it's served him well so why should he? I'm glad we've moved on.
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Post by alansuddick on Oct 4, 2015 9:00:33 GMT
We are where we are thanks to tony pulis, I have nothing but love for the man!
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Post by Fenparkpotter on Oct 4, 2015 9:04:13 GMT
No chance of them going down under TP. Guaranteed finish 12th-15th. Unless he goes to Chelsea..
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Post by scfc75 on Oct 4, 2015 9:07:21 GMT
Karma.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 9:08:35 GMT
I shouldn't get involved but this made me hoot. " JP isnt going to sack Pulis, but hopefully Pulis sees we arent the right club for him.
If he left now, has a couple of months break, he could get a job at Xmas, save the club and go again, if he went to a certain club he could have a few years to build them. (Even Villa, with the attacking players they have he would have no choice but to try and win a game)
I am disappointed because i wanted to be won over by Pulis, i like him as a bloke, think he is the sort you would go for a beer with and he is no nonsense, however as a manager of our club i want him gone.
My dad has been going the Albion over 70 years, he is the most positive fan in the world, put a Barca, Real and Bayern dream team against us and he would fancy us to win, but i have noticed this season he has been losing enthusiasm and yesterday he just said 'enough is enough, whats the point in watching this and his enthusiasm for the Albion is going rapidly.' 70 years of going, things he has seen, good and bad, i never remember him being this way during the Gould, Smith, Buckley days, etc (thats only my lifetime) and that says it all that he has had enough.
On the flipside to that, i was going to buy a mate of mines 5 year old son a ticket for the Leicester game for his birthday, get a new fan along and i have decided now not to bother and give him the money instead because i genuinely feel he would be put off for life.
Lets not pretend things were great under Mel and Irvine, they wasnt but i would chop my right b*****k now for even a bit of the enthusiasm i had then, Pulis has sucked the life out of my enjoyment for the Albion, i realised yesterday its just going to be the same, he has a default which is setup for a 0-0. I expect we grind out a 1-0 against Sunderland or another game round then and keeps us afloat but there has to be more to life than suffering this s**t every week.
I said it before, its all relative, back in the 80's and 90's we had crap players, so we expected crap, under Megson we had a limited group of players who he made a unit, again didnt expect much, they gave their all and that was enough but ultimately they werent good enough. Nowadays we have quality players who arent going to win the league but can play a bit and they are being coached to do the absolute minimum, ruin the game and try and nick a point and i do expect more.
There is not one attacking player who has improved under Pulis, Berahino probably works harder for the team but he is played out wide, not out wide like he does for England under 21's, but out wide where is main job is to defend. That says it all that not one attacking player has gone better!
We have 3 x strikers in Rondon, Lambert and Anichebe who are all the same, two who he brought despite having Anichebe at the club, proper wingers who dont play (Gnabry and Mcmanaman) and attacking players who dont make the bench (Sess) if you are over 6ft and work ard you have a chance with Pulis, Chester fails on that front because he is under 6ft.
I understand the big money comes in next year, but its not a one off, its every year so if Pulis is in charge to ensure we stay in the league however it happens, we may as well give him a new 5 year contract til whenever a new TV deal comes in, if that is the case, i really wont be attending and i think if current performances are anything to go by, thousands will be the same.
I try and see the best in everything but i just want Pulis to go and ASAP."
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Post by hatchett on Oct 4, 2015 9:24:22 GMT
Posts: 596
Love it ☺☺
Id rather be relegated than watch this rubbish. We have some very good players, we don't need to defend against everyone we play against. I think if you gave irvine this set of players even he'd do better. Get Pulis out of our club
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Post by elystokie on Oct 4, 2015 9:31:25 GMT
Had a quick look on one of their MBs yesterday and saw Charlton and Curbishley being mentioned (rofl)
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Post by partickpotter on Oct 4, 2015 9:32:47 GMT
Was in the car yesterday afternoon listening to the post match interviews on Talk Sport. TP basically complained that his team didn't do any attacking in the second half. Adrian Durham then made the salient point that Pulis had subbed his most attacking player (Berahino) at half time replacing him with a workhorse midfielder (Gardner).
Not sure what the reasons were for the change - but it might account for the reduced attacking threat after the break.
Like Mourinho, Pulis, as we know, seems to enter a fantasy world when doing post match interviews (and pre match ones as well occasionally).
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Post by DentySCFC on Oct 4, 2015 9:34:07 GMT
£30.5m on Jonny Evans, Rondon, McLean, Lambert, Chester (£8m for a bench player!) and McManaman (who doesn't play).
Given a big budget, he hasn't got a clue what to do with it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 11:17:24 GMT
I know a very thoughtful baggies fan at work and presently, he is absolutely hating what he is seeing his football club dish up
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 4, 2015 11:21:46 GMT
£30.5m on Jonny Evans, Rondon, McLean, Lambert, Chester (£8m for a bench player!) and McManaman (who doesn't play). Given a big budget, he hasn't got a clue what to do with it. All to supplement a £25million striker who he's converted to a defensive left winger. Baggies fans saying the exact same thing I was some years ago, the ungrateful bastards.
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Post by alster on Oct 4, 2015 11:25:53 GMT
I shouldn't get involved but this made me hoot. " JP isnt going to sack Pulis, but hopefully Pulis sees we arent the right club for him.
If he left now, has a couple of months break, he could get a job at Xmas, save the club and go again, if he went to a certain club he could have a few years to build them. (Even Villa, with the attacking players they have he would have no choice but to try and win a game)
I am disappointed because i wanted to be won over by Pulis, i like him as a bloke, think he is the sort you would go for a beer with and he is no nonsense, however as a manager of our club i want him gone.
My dad has been going the Albion over 70 years, he is the most positive fan in the world, put a Barca, Real and Bayern dream team against us and he would fancy us to win, but i have noticed this season he has been losing enthusiasm and yesterday he just said 'enough is enough, whats the point in watching this and his enthusiasm for the Albion is going rapidly.' 70 years of going, things he has seen, good and bad, i never remember him being this way during the Gould, Smith, Buckley days, etc (thats only my lifetime) and that says it all that he has had enough.
On the flipside to that, i was going to buy a mate of mines 5 year old son a ticket for the Leicester game for his birthday, get a new fan along and i have decided now not to bother and give him the money instead because i genuinely feel he would be put off for life.
Lets not pretend things were great under Mel and Irvine, they wasnt but i would chop my right b*****k now for even a bit of the enthusiasm i had then, Pulis has sucked the life out of my enjoyment for the Albion, i realised yesterday its just going to be the same, he has a default which is setup for a 0-0. I expect we grind out a 1-0 against Sunderland or another game round then and keeps us afloat but there has to be more to life than suffering this s**t every week.
I said it before, its all relative, back in the 80's and 90's we had crap players, so we expected crap, under Megson we had a limited group of players who he made a unit, again didnt expect much, they gave their all and that was enough but ultimately they werent good enough. Nowadays we have quality players who arent going to win the league but can play a bit and they are being coached to do the absolute minimum, ruin the game and try and nick a point and i do expect more.
There is not one attacking player who has improved under Pulis, Berahino probably works harder for the team but he is played out wide, not out wide like he does for England under 21's, but out wide where is main job is to defend. That says it all that not one attacking player has gone better!
We have 3 x strikers in Rondon, Lambert and Anichebe who are all the same, two who he brought despite having Anichebe at the club, proper wingers who dont play (Gnabry and Mcmanaman) and attacking players who dont make the bench (Sess) if you are over 6ft and work ard you have a chance with Pulis, Chester fails on that front because he is under 6ft.
I understand the big money comes in next year, but its not a one off, its every year so if Pulis is in charge to ensure we stay in the league however it happens, we may as well give him a new 5 year contract til whenever a new TV deal comes in, if that is the case, i really wont be attending and i think if current performances are anything to go by, thousands will be the same.
I try and see the best in everything but i just want Pulis to go and ASAP."LMFAO couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch.
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Post by foxysgloves on Oct 4, 2015 11:29:10 GMT
Interesting that the poll at the top of the page has nearly 70% pro Pulis.
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Post by scfc75 on Oct 4, 2015 11:31:38 GMT
£30.5m on Jonny Evans, Rondon, McLean, Lambert, Chester (£8m for a bench player!) and McManaman (who doesn't play). Given a big budget, he hasn't got a clue what to do with it. All to supplement a £25million striker who he's converted to a defensive left winger. Baggies fans saying the exact same thing I was some years ago, the ungrateful bastards. The thing that gets me is the hypocrisy. When he played Man City he rolled out the £200m line, saying that he couldn't compete. But when he pitches up against teams in a similar spending bracket (us, Palace, Watford) he still churns out the same turgid shit, trying to grind out a 0-0. His final season with us was appalling, the only game I enjoyed going to see was the Boxing Day win over Liverpool. Come March I actually just wanted the season to end.
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Post by foxysgloves on Oct 4, 2015 11:38:54 GMT
All to supplement a £25million striker who he's converted to a defensive left winger. Baggies fans saying the exact same thing I was some years ago, the ungrateful bastards. The thing that gets me is the hypocrisy. When he played Man City he rolled out the £200m line, saying that he couldn't compete. But when he pitches up against teams in a similar spending bracket (us, Palace, Watford) he still churns out the same turgid shit, trying to grind out a 0-0. His final season with us was appalling, the only game I enjoyed going to see was the Boxing Day win over Liverpool. Come March I actually just wanted the season to end.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 11:41:18 GMT
Interesting that the poll at the top of the page has nearly 70% pro Pulis. It's interesting that they've already put one up. By the time ours went up, everyone had had the best part of 10 years to decide whether or not they wanted him gone. I don't know when their poll went up, but once you've voted, you've voted. You can't change your mind. A couple more weeks of watching what they're watching and a few might wish they'd voted differently.
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Post by alster on Oct 4, 2015 11:42:37 GMT
Interesting that the poll at the top of the page has nearly 70% pro Pulis. I can remember hating what he produces and being in far more of a minority than 30% whilst the likes of yourself stayed with him because he was like a safety blanket and you thought staying up was worth the misery and entertaining football couldn't be more productive.They're not as starved as we had been, they'll not keep happy clapping his shit too long.
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Post by foxysgloves on Oct 4, 2015 11:47:38 GMT
Interesting that the poll at the top of the page has nearly 70% pro Pulis. I can remember hating what he produces and being in far more of a minority than 30% whilst the likes of yourself stayed with him because he was like a safety blanket and you thought staying up was worth the misery and entertaining football couldn't be more productive.They're not as starved as we had been, they'll not keep happy clapping his shit too long. The oracle that is Alster. Thanks for your wise words. Could you tell me who's going to win in the Arse-Shit game before I put a bet on?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 11:49:43 GMT
Interesting that the poll at the top of the page has nearly 70% pro Pulis. I can remember hating what he produces and being in far more of a minority than 30% whilst the likes of yourself stayed with him because he was like a safety blanket and you thought staying up was worth the misery and entertaining football couldn't be more productive.They're not as starved as we had been, they'll not keep happy clapping his shit too long. It wasn't just the safety blanket. There were many I'd imagine who didn't enjoy what they were watching, but were understandably loyal to someone who'd given the club it's pride back as well as a place at the top table. West Brom fans don't have that. They just see the life-sapping football on display and the replacing of dynamic forwards for defensive midfielders when you're needing to pull a goal back. Pulisball can be incredibly entertaining when you're looking from the outside at his club's supporters' message board.
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Post by partickpotter on Oct 4, 2015 11:50:50 GMT
Interesting that the poll at the top of the page has nearly 70% pro Pulis. I can remember hating what he produces and being in far more of a minority than 30% whilst the likes of yourself stayed with him because he was like a safety blanket and you thought staying up was worth the misery and entertaining football couldn't be more productive.They're not as starved as we had been, they'll not keep happy clapping his shit too long. It was only in the last few months of his time at Stoke (post Liverpool Boxing Day) that he lost the fans in any meaningful way. Meaning attendances were falling and season ticket renewals were worryingly low. Take all your on line polls you want, the only data you need is what passes through the turnstiles. I'm convinced this is the main reason PC decided it was time for a change.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 11:59:57 GMT
I can remember hating what he produces and being in far more of a minority than 30% whilst the likes of yourself stayed with him because he was like a safety blanket and you thought staying up was worth the misery and entertaining football couldn't be more productive.They're not as starved as we had been, they'll not keep happy clapping his shit too long. It was only in the last few months of his time at Stoke (post Liverpool Boxing Day) that he lost the fans in any meaningful way. Meaning attendances were falling and season ticket renewals were worryingly low. Take all your on line polls you want, the only data you need is what passes through the turnstiles. I'm convinced this is the main reason PC decided it was time for a change. I think there had been many supporters who never took to his football, but had to bite their tongue because of the monumental upward curve the club had been on for the previous 5 or 6 years. Once the club's position in the Prem started to look precarious it was open season in a way that I don't think would have happened to other managers who'd achieved so much. I agree about Coates only acting when it looked like his pocket was being hit, but I think some of Pulis' transfer dealings had already given him cause for concern in that respect as well as the drop off in season ticket sales.
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Post by alster on Oct 4, 2015 12:10:33 GMT
I can remember hating what he produces and being in far more of a minority than 30% whilst the likes of yourself stayed with him because he was like a safety blanket and you thought staying up was worth the misery and entertaining football couldn't be more productive.They're not as starved as we had been, they'll not keep happy clapping his shit too long. It was only in the last few months of his time at Stoke (post Liverpool Boxing Day) that he lost the fans in any meaningful way. Meaning attendances were falling and season ticket renewals were worryingly low. Take all your on line polls you want, the only data you need is what passes through the turnstiles. I'm convinced this is the main reason PC decided it was time for a change. I don't disagree. I'd never been a fan of TP but always a fan of Stoke City. I had come to the end of my tether with matchdays during his final season and as such was one of several thousand who did not renew their ST. I believe he'd have lost the fans a hell of a lot sooner had we not been starved of top level football for almost a quarter of a century. Of course his tenure had its high notes but every season was mainly filled with joyless football that was difficult to enjoy watching. All I'm saying is West Brom have not been starved of top division football for any length of time in recent years and will not be so understanding of his ruining their matchday experience.
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Post by thevoid on Oct 4, 2015 12:11:06 GMT
We are where we are thanks to tony pulis, I have nothing but love for the man! I think of Hughes as an upgrade on TP- a bit like we have the iPhone 4 to thank in the long run for the iPhone 6.
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Post by alster on Oct 4, 2015 12:15:46 GMT
It was only in the last few months of his time at Stoke (post Liverpool Boxing Day) that he lost the fans in any meaningful way. Meaning attendances were falling and season ticket renewals were worryingly low. Take all your on line polls you want, the only data you need is what passes through the turnstiles. I'm convinced this is the main reason PC decided it was time for a change. I think there had been many supporters who never took to his football, but had to bite their tongue because of the monumental upward curve the club had been on for the previous 5 or 6 years. Once the club's position in the Prem started to look precarious it was open season in a way that I don't think would have happened to other managers who'd achieved so much. I agree about Coates only acting when it looked like his pocket was being hit, but I think some of Pulis' transfer dealings had already given him cause for concern in that respect as well as the drop off in season ticket sales. I've no doubt it was a bit of both. I've heard him describe the Crouch deal as financial madness. I'm pretty sure that deadline day had a large part to play in his/their decision to part company with TP. I'm very glad they did, its taken me two years to start looking forward to every game again.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 12:19:01 GMT
I think there had been many supporters who never took to his football, but had to bite their tongue because of the monumental upward curve the club had been on for the previous 5 or 6 years. Once the club's position in the Prem started to look precarious it was open season in a way that I don't think would have happened to other managers who'd achieved so much. I agree about Coates only acting when it looked like his pocket was being hit, but I think some of Pulis' transfer dealings had already given him cause for concern in that respect as well as the drop off in season ticket sales. I've no doubt it was a bit of both. I've heard him describe the Crouch deal as financial madness. I'm pretty sure that deadline day had a large part to play in his/their decision to part company with TP. I'm very glad they did, its taken me two years to start looking forward to every game again. It took me until Hughes' introductory press conference.
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Post by alster on Oct 4, 2015 12:30:35 GMT
I've no doubt it was a bit of both. I've heard him describe the Crouch deal as financial madness. I'm pretty sure that deadline day had a large part to play in his/their decision to part company with TP. I'm very glad they did, its taken me two years to start looking forward to every game again. It took me until Hughes' introductory press conference. I'm a little more stubborn in my decision making, only this season have I got back on the bike with the ST. Don't think I'm wrong either, I'd ditch it again if I was not enjoying the games. Doesn't mean we need to be winning every week, just got to enjoy the football. I'm a bit strange in that I can do that regardless of the result.
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Post by jarhead on Oct 4, 2015 12:41:03 GMT
Awful awful dross and we have wanker's on here wanting him back ffs!!!
I would give the game and club up if he ever came back.
Enjoy it Baggies
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Post by heworksardtho on Oct 4, 2015 12:42:56 GMT
Nothing but the utter respect for the guy , he laid the foundations for our survival in the prem and we have now moved on to the next level, and anybody who turned up for work the day his mum died , deserves nothing but respect so let's have some class guys and let's move on
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Post by fca47 on Oct 4, 2015 13:18:03 GMT
They are deluded, how many away games did they win before, they have won two this season already, and were playing one of the form teams in the division.
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