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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 21, 2016 21:26:04 GMT
I've given him plenty of credit for what he did in his first three seasons. .until expectations caused him to shit himself and revert to attritional garbage and defending 1-0 deficits. Unlike you though I haven't done a complete U turn with regards my views on him. Yup. If you go to his profile > recent post tab, go as far back as you can. It's eye opening stuff. Also the thread he's contributing in involves someone's (alleged) alter ego. Stalker.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 21, 2016 21:25:17 GMT
Think you are over egging the pudding matey. Seriously. Take the fritter off your shoulder and give the bloke some well deserved credit. I've given him plenty of credit for what he did in his first three seasons. .until expectations caused him to shit himself and revert to attritional garbage and defending 1-0 deficits. Unlike you though I haven't done a complete U turn with regards my views on him. As I say.... You've got a massive chunky chip on your shoulder. At least I've admitted to a change in thinking. The guy deserves our respect. What's your problem ? ...Seriously.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 21, 2016 20:58:47 GMT
Ok You've obviously got some strong feelings about one of our greatest managers. A manager that you actually detested when he was here but now seem to be putting his achievements on par with Clough,Ferguson and Paisley. You really couldn't make this shit up.. Think you are over egging the pudding matey. Seriously. Take the fritter off your shoulder and give the bloke some well deserved credit.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 21, 2016 20:52:34 GMT
He's not the only one this season is he? And? He did a job on other teams when he was here. Again, and? I'd personally respect the bloke more if he'd be honest and admit what he is. A jobbing manager that can keep a side in a division with his eyes closed, but not really achieve much else. When he's pushed he falls over himself to try and defend it by saying he's pigeon holed this and pigeon holed that. The reason he gets pigeon holed is people have sussed him out. There's nothing wrong with holding your hand up and admitting exactly what you are in life and in your profession. Everyone has a level and everyone has their limitations. The problem that people have with him is that he gets sarky when people criticise him and starts throwing around insults like "Steak and Chips" then tries to pull the wool over everyone's eyes with his B.S about dossiers. The truth is he'd have 100% footballing respect if he just came out and spoke the truth about what he is. Ok You've obviously got some strong feelings about one of our greatest managers.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 21, 2016 20:40:45 GMT
I just can't believe there are many of his supporters left. I never took to his football and by the end of his reign here it seriously got on my tits, but I totally respect the fans who loved it and went all balls in for the whole "us against them" mentality that he fostered. It worked and it got all of the fanbase on side. Fair play and great. What I don't understand is the amount of his fans remaining after witnessing his antics against 9 men at the Brit earlier in the season? A team so bereft of idea's and ambition that they sat with 11 men behind the ball whilst 9 men passed them off the park, and for a better finisher on the day would have walked away with 3 points. That is simply not football. He did a job on us. x2
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 21, 2016 20:31:03 GMT
Don't think it's coincidence that he's never been relegated at any of these Clubs and taken the Potters to the promised land. Do you? No it's not a coincidence, it was a level of financial backing never afforded before to any previous Stoke manager, that in itself does not guarantee success but it also means it's not quite the water into wine feat some people would have you believe. 16 premier league managers have never been relegated, only 1 manager who has completed a full season in the premier league has not managed a top 10 finish guess who You've changed the criteria. I said it is no coincidence that HE has never been relegated at any of his clubs. Also the managers in the Premiership today are a moveable feast. Pulis must be close to being the most experienced Premiership manager (after arse of course)
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 21, 2016 20:15:19 GMT
Think you will find mister that there are millions of footy fans who get their pleasure from "results alone" Yes indeed. However the ones who watch football don't mister. Like I said. If the result that is all that matters to you why watch? Most people who watch football like to see how the result was obtained don't they and unless they are a bit tapped would rather like to see their team attacking and having a go at the opposition with things like shots at goal. The latter is not something you associate with Tony Pulis is it? Sorry... I don't understand what you mean iin your first sentence.Please explain.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 21, 2016 19:57:20 GMT
The right way is the successful way. Tony Pulis is one of the most successful managers in our history. I think the vast majority of people have been able to see and feel the quantum leap forward from day one of Pulis being replaced by a management team with the imagination and ability to manage a Premier League team. They have put the "only Tone" horseshit firmly to bed. Truth is that he was a well funded individual who delivered the expected by a formula that always had a shelf life and is unacceptable to supporters who pay good money for far more than watching their team reduce football to a grind of attrition. Of course there will always be a minority so stars truck by the ambition of pure survival that these arguments will break out wherever he is transported to in order to defend to forty points. That is why we see West Brom fans fighting with each other. Is there are a right way or wrong way? Well there is if you want to watch. Maybe not if you get your pleasure from results alone. In the latter case why turn up to watch at all? Think you will find mister that there are millions of footy fans who get their pleasure from "results alone"
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 21, 2016 19:21:48 GMT
Momo and foxysgloves are right though. It's all just a massive coincidence that wherever Pulis works there are the sorts of idiots who hate him and his football for no apparent reason. What other explanation could there be? Don't think it's coincidence that he's never been relegated at any of these Clubs and taken the Potters to the promised land. Do you?
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 13, 2016 23:18:34 GMT
Again...stupid assumptions We could have been playing at home to Shrewsbury next week and rested a few top players. Ryan is fit for Villa and then the next round. We are not going to qualify for Europa in the League .... we may have had a chance with the FA Cup given the luck of the draw. your saying stupid assumptions,we,re not in the cup playing against sherwsbury we still could get into eroupe thats real No ...what I am saying is that we would have been playing Spurs is a stupid assumption if we had beaten Palace. Even though it's a possible that we could wualify for Europe I think the possibilty of winning the FA Cup is greater for our Club.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 13, 2016 22:30:49 GMT
In hindsight yes I would have probably changed the team v west brom, I also would have v everton. That's why he's the boss one right one wrong. V palace I'd have only played diouf other than that I'd have picked the same team. Today I wouldn't have picked that front four, but it worked well. With regard to the centre halves we've had real bad luck. Clearly if he knew 4 out of 5 would be injured then he perhaps would have kept huth. He looked to strengthen in the window, but who realistically could he have brought in who was good enough to play alongside shawcross? Facts are that in the two and seasons in charge, and with far less spend we've got an all round better squad, and first team(despite losing nzonzi). Imbula will be a star, and we have depth. We could end up anywhere from 7th to 15th, but we're better to watch, more competitive in the bonus games, and with a big summer transfer I expect us to be pushing on for top 6-8 and reach a final. Meanwhile I expect pulis to leave west brom in the summer. Feel free to save this post. My only gripe with Sparky is the FA Cup. That midfield was a cop-out in my opinion.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 13, 2016 22:27:07 GMT
5.15, 7.25 & 8.05 all vintage Stein Particularly love the Rotherham away one at 5.15 - Can that really be 23 years ago now?? His goal at Rotherham was magic and a great day out too with Kevkj and a few others. Happy days they were after a drought. Yeh..got to say that Rotherhan game is still top of my awayday list. Was it sn Easter Monday?
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 13, 2016 22:20:20 GMT
What a great pic mate It's cracker isn't it, how good does John Ritchie look?! Helps not having a sponsors logo of course. As I've said many times ... It's a mythical, magical strip for SCFC. Got to be our second or third choice next season. When the lads trotted out at Sheffield in 1971 to the tune of the brass band in that strip ... it was what dreams are made of.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 13, 2016 22:13:08 GMT
TC
No contest
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 13, 2016 22:02:08 GMT
Fortunately though we just get to observe and we all have degrees in hindsight. You appear to have a 1st. That's why he's the boss, pulis is the boss, and you're looking a wise after the event type of guy. Not really matey Said the WBA team was in my opinion wrong at the time and also said we would dick Bournemouth last week. I'm not into knocking Sparky just for the hell of it .. but really think he messed up a bit during this period. Probably what sorts out a great manager from a good manager. He has deffo dropped a clanger with his management of the centre half situation. Don't you agree?
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 13, 2016 21:45:46 GMT
Many distinguished commentators and posters made mention that due to the upcoming plethora of critical games and the mind games and abilities of TP we would be better to start our "old guard" It proved a wise observation as we are are now out of both Cups and no chance of a Europa place. He picked the wrong team v WBA imo.He didn't throw in the towel against Palace,he wasn't in the middle of a meltdown and today wasn't a gimmee. Knock on effect. Once he chose that team against WBA
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 13, 2016 21:38:51 GMT
Yes. He was in the middle of a meltdown when he picked the wrong team against West Brom and then threw in the towel against Palace. Pressure games in a tough situation. He has since had time to regroup, bed in our record signing and prepare for a poor, ready to be taken opposition. Middle of a meltdown when he picked the wrong team (in your opinion )against West Brom when we were on a winning run ?? Now you truly are losing the plot... Many distinguished commentators and posters made mention that due to the upcoming plethora of critical games and the mind games and abilities of TP we would be better to start our "old guard" It proved a wise observation as we are are now out of both Cups and no chance of a Europa place.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 13, 2016 21:31:20 GMT
Don't give me excuses you are out fine dining with a fair lady ... So am I .... but Stoke is far more important haha You've really lost me now .... You said "what" Steak and chips on the way now
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 13, 2016 21:29:40 GMT
That's kind of how it works isn't it? I mean I take my hat off to anyone who can fix an inane grin on their face through 3 consecutive 3-0 dickings but I'm afraid I can't. Applause.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 13, 2016 21:22:46 GMT
If you are that interested in me matey then I suggest you visit the match thread where I predicted a comfortable victory earlier this week. Don't try to be a smart-arse sunshine. So,the manager is in the middle of a meltdown yet you predicted we would beat Bournemouth.Do you know your arse from your elbow? Yes. He was in the middle of a meltdown when he picked the wrong team against West Brom and then threw in the towel against Palace. Pressure games in a tough situation. He has since had time to regroup, bed in our record signing and prepare for a poor, ready to be taken opposition.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 13, 2016 21:15:17 GMT
A debut goal would have to be scored on his debut, which was last week. A debut is the first appearance or performance. It was simply Imbula's first goal for Stoke City. Not at all a debut is when someone presents something for the first time also.Eg he presented us with his first goal. A goal on his debut appearance. A debut goal on his second appearance. mmmmmm...
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 13, 2016 21:01:07 GMT
Think a lot of people underestimate the affect the loss of his mother has had on the guy.
We do not know.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 13, 2016 20:50:33 GMT
Don't give me excuses you are out fine dining with a fair lady ... So am I .... but Stoke is far more important haha
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 13, 2016 20:41:16 GMT
See my edit, I don't fancy us to get anything against Spurs with the problems in the squad we have right now. Can't deal with two competitions and if we aren't going to go all the way then frankly the money and prestige from a higher prem place means more then coming even second in the FA cup. For the four hundreth time .. we may have not been playing Spurs.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 13, 2016 20:35:37 GMT
I actually agree, I'd like to focus on the league right now I'm too bummed out from the Carling Cup to deal with being close to the FA and bottling it Give over.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 13, 2016 20:32:57 GMT
I don't see why he's got to cart them off to Dubai, a seven hour flight won't do Ryan's back any good. I don't think they will be flying Ryainair mate Emirates Club class .... 40k for the squad Emirates First class ... 100 k for the squad How many first class seats are there??
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 13, 2016 20:13:06 GMT
Again...stupid assumptions We could have been playing at home to Shrewsbury next week and rested a few top players. Ryan is fit for Villa and then the next round. We are not going to qualify for Europa in the League .... we may have had a chance with the FA Cup given the luck of the draw. All fair points I think my perspective comes from the fact that last time we got to a final we had star players not fully fit (Huth, Etherington) and others out completely (Fuller) ... Psychologically, I think I would cope better with 1) Get knocked out earlier in the cup, and have injury problems than 2) Get all the way to the final and then just miss out because we have injuries. (1) Is slightly disappointing whereas (2) Is devastating Yeh...it's all assumptions and what-ifs... I personally was really peed off when I saw that Palace starting eleven ... especially the midfield. We, the punters don't know diddly squat of course about the situation at that particular time of course. I just think (hopefully wrongly) that the Cups are our only chance of real glory.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 13, 2016 19:43:30 GMT
I don't think he's saying we can NEVER win the cup, but without Shawcross I don't think we can. For us to win at Wembley we need our star players fit and firing. If we have an injury-free season like Leicester then we can get silverware, but without the likes of Ryan in the side I think we will always end up slightly short. Again...stupid assumptions We could have been playing at home to Shrewsbury next week and rested a few top players. Ryan is fit for Villa and then the next round. We are not going to qualify for Europa in the League .... we may have had a chance with the FA Cup given the luck of the draw.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 13, 2016 19:31:51 GMT
No ...it's a different word. He was in a position where he placed priority over Cup. Wrongly in my opinion. That's why I think he was in meltdown. Oh ok. What? What what?
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 13, 2016 19:23:46 GMT
Astonished ...because anybody who thinks three 3-0 defeats on the bounce is not worried.ok? You now use the word "worried" rather than "meltdown". No ...it's a different word. He was in a position where he placed priority over Cup. Wrongly in my opinion. That's why I think he was in meltdown.
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