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Post by homer32 on Feb 13, 2016 18:09:44 GMT
LMH can take them away now to Dubai and they can have a good break and get some of the injuries sorted out.We'd have been playing Spurs at WHL next weekend and probably losing and risking more injuries.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 18:20:46 GMT
Still would love to be in the cup
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Post by metalhead on Feb 13, 2016 18:21:53 GMT
Nah. Not buying that. I wanted us to beat palace. Yes, in hindsight Spurs are superb at the moment but I still would rather be in it.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Feb 13, 2016 18:23:45 GMT
I don't see why he's got to cart them off to Dubai, a seven hour flight won't do Ryan's back any good.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 13, 2016 18:29:45 GMT
LMH can take them away now to Dubai and they can have a good break and get some of the injuries sorted out.We'd have been playing Spurs at WHL next weekend and probably losing and risking more injuries. I would rather be playing Spurs next weekend in all honesty. |
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Post by hatchett on Feb 13, 2016 18:29:44 GMT
I don't see why he's got to cart them off to Dubai, a seven hour flight won't do Ryan's back any good. Have you seen first class on Emirates ☺ |
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Post by generationex on Feb 13, 2016 18:31:31 GMT
Survival.
FA cup
League cup.
First Round of second priority is a fail.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 13, 2016 18:32:42 GMT
LMH can take them away now to Dubai and they can have a good break and get some of the injuries sorted out.We'd have been playing Spurs at WHL next weekend and probably losing and risking more injuries. Stupid post on two counts. 1. What sane SCFC supporter wants to be out of the FA Cup 2. We may not have been playing Spurs. |
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 13, 2016 18:33:25 GMT
I don't see why he's got to cart them off to Dubai, a seven hour flight won't do Ryan's back any good. With all the TV cash we can spunk a bit of it on paying for air hostesses to massage Dubaian fig oil into his back the whole way there. |
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Feb 13, 2016 18:36:36 GMT
Waste of money. I'd do that (and more) for free.
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Post by philm87 on Feb 13, 2016 18:48:36 GMT
I think he has a point given our injuries though. If Shawcross and co were fully fit, would be a different story, but with our current shortages at the back, a cup run would result in 1) Defeat at Wembley in LC, exit in future round of FA Cup and 2) Struggle to stay in the top ten. Whereas without the cups to worry about we now have 1 ) No silverware BUT 2) Realistic chance of finishing top 8 and beating last season's points tally.
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Post by homer32 on Feb 13, 2016 18:57:58 GMT
I think he has a point given our injuries though. If Shawcross and co were fully fit, would be a different story, but with our current shortages at the back, a cup run would result in 1) Defeat at Wembley in LC, exit in future round of FA Cup and 2) Struggle to stay in the top ten. Whereas without the cups to worry about we now have 1 ) No silverware BUT 2) Realistic chance of finishing top 8 and beating last season's points tally. That's how I was thinking, with all the injuries we need this break and then we can push on for a possible Europa spot.We would never have won the FA Cup. |
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Post by jonso on Feb 13, 2016 18:59:54 GMT
I don't see why he's got to cart them off to Dubai, a seven hour flight won't do Ryan's back any good. Have you seen first class on Emirates ☺ Been there, done that. The flight is never long enough in Emirates. The stand up bar is a joy. |
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 13, 2016 18:59:56 GMT
I think he has a point given our injuries though. If Shawcross and co were fully fit, would be a different story, but with our current shortages at the back, a cup run would result in 1) Defeat at Wembley in LC, exit in future round of FA Cup and 2) Struggle to stay in the top ten. Whereas without the cups to worry about we now have 1 ) No silverware BUT 2) Realistic chance of finishing top 8 and beating last season's points tally. That's how I was thinking, with all the injuries we need this break and then we can push on for a possible Europa spot.We would never have won the FA Cup. That's the spirit. |
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Post by basingstokie on Feb 13, 2016 19:09:01 GMT
Sure the docs will have advised on the sensibleness of Ryan flying for 7 hours.
But first class will be considerably better than the cheap seats - basically a bed and the physio will be able to massage whenever he needs it too
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Post by philm87 on Feb 13, 2016 19:09:32 GMT
That's how I was thinking, with all the injuries we need this break and then we can push on for a possible Europa spot.We would never have won the FA Cup. That's the spirit. I don't think he's saying we can NEVER win the cup, but without Shawcross I don't think we can. For us to win at Wembley we need our star players fit and firing. If we have an injury-free season like Leicester then we can get silverware, but without the likes of Ryan in the side I think we will always end up slightly short. |
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Post by alster on Feb 13, 2016 19:26:52 GMT
LMH can take them away now to Dubai and they can have a good break and get some of the injuries sorted out.We'd have been playing Spurs at WHL next weekend and probably losing and risking more injuries. I would rather be playing Spurs next weekend in all honesty. I don't think we want to celebrate being out of the cup but given the circumstances the break is very opportune. |
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Post by ohbottom on Feb 13, 2016 19:28:47 GMT
I don't see why he's got to cart them off to Dubai, a seven hour flight won't do Ryan's back any good. Have you seen first class on Emirates ☺ Do they do extras? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 19:33:49 GMT
I would rather be playing Spurs next weekend in all honesty. I don't think we want to celebrate being out of the cup but given the circumstances the break is very opportune. I'd rather us to still be in the cup,but you are dead right when you say this break is required. |
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 13, 2016 19:43:30 GMT
I don't think he's saying we can NEVER win the cup, but without Shawcross I don't think we can. For us to win at Wembley we need our star players fit and firing. If we have an injury-free season like Leicester then we can get silverware, but without the likes of Ryan in the side I think we will always end up slightly short. Again...stupid assumptions We could have been playing at home to Shrewsbury next week and rested a few top players. Ryan is fit for Villa and then the next round. We are not going to qualify for Europa in the League .... we may have had a chance with the FA Cup given the luck of the draw. |
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Post by philm87 on Feb 13, 2016 19:54:04 GMT
I don't think he's saying we can NEVER win the cup, but without Shawcross I don't think we can. For us to win at Wembley we need our star players fit and firing. If we have an injury-free season like Leicester then we can get silverware, but without the likes of Ryan in the side I think we will always end up slightly short. Again...stupid assumptions We could have been playing at home to Shrewsbury next week and rested a few top players. Ryan is fit for Villa and then the next round. We are not going to qualify for Europa in the League .... we may have had a chance with the FA Cup given the luck of the draw. All fair points I think my perspective comes from the fact that last time we got to a final we had star players not fully fit (Huth, Etherington) and others out completely (Fuller) ... Psychologically, I think I would cope better with 1) Get knocked out earlier in the cup, and have injury problems than 2) Get all the way to the final and then just miss out because we have injuries. (1) Is slightly disappointing whereas (2) Is devastating |
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 13, 2016 20:13:06 GMT
Again...stupid assumptions We could have been playing at home to Shrewsbury next week and rested a few top players. Ryan is fit for Villa and then the next round. We are not going to qualify for Europa in the League .... we may have had a chance with the FA Cup given the luck of the draw. All fair points I think my perspective comes from the fact that last time we got to a final we had star players not fully fit (Huth, Etherington) and others out completely (Fuller) ... Psychologically, I think I would cope better with 1) Get knocked out earlier in the cup, and have injury problems than 2) Get all the way to the final and then just miss out because we have injuries. (1) Is slightly disappointing whereas (2) Is devastating Yeh...it's all assumptions and what-ifs... I personally was really peed off when I saw that Palace starting eleven ... especially the midfield. We, the punters don't know diddly squat of course about the situation at that particular time of course. I just think (hopefully wrongly) that the Cups are our only chance of real glory. |
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Post by Scrotnig on Feb 13, 2016 20:16:01 GMT
I understand the sentiment but as a Stoke fan I cannot ever, ever say I am glad we lost.
I wish we'd thrashed Palace, it's as simple as that.
Now, I will add, I do understand the sentiment. There is logic behind what the original poster said. It does make a modicum of sense if you apply some logic to it.
However, balanced against that sentiment is the equally powerful sentiment that anyone who is glad Stoke lost can just f*ck off up the Vale.
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Post by Gods on Feb 13, 2016 20:21:17 GMT
I've lost count of the number of FA Cup exits I have lived through but every one has cut like a knife.
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Post by happyending on Feb 13, 2016 20:21:56 GMT
100% agree, we could do without a game against anybody next weekend the squad needs to rest and recuperate for the run in. Top 8 is realistic but top 6 is possible.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 20:23:28 GMT
I don't see why he's got to cart them off to Dubai, a seven hour flight won't do Ryan's back any good. I don't think they will be flying Ryainair mate |
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 13, 2016 20:32:57 GMT
I don't see why he's got to cart them off to Dubai, a seven hour flight won't do Ryan's back any good. I don't think they will be flying Ryainair mate Emirates Club class .... 40k for the squad Emirates First class ... 100 k for the squad How many first class seats are there?? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 20:34:36 GMT
I actually agree, I'd like to focus on the league right now I'm too bummed out from the Carling Cup to deal with being close to the FA and bottling it.
Considering our injuries and illness to this is an absolute godsend of a break. I can sit back next weekend and put my feet up and enjoy the football knowing it has fuck all to do with Stoke.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Feb 13, 2016 20:35:37 GMT
I actually agree, I'd like to focus on the league right now I'm too bummed out from the Carling Cup to deal with being close to the FA and bottling it Give over. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 20:37:40 GMT
I actually agree, I'd like to focus on the league right now I'm too bummed out from the Carling Cup to deal with being close to the FA and bottling it Give over. See my edit, I don't fancy us to get anything against Spurs with the problems in the squad we have right now. Can't deal with two competitions and if we aren't going to go all the way then frankly the money and prestige from a higher prem place means more then coming even second in the FA cup. |
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