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Post by Block 22 on Nov 8, 2019 11:58:36 GMT
More news articles going on the website but still nothing on O'Neil. Does his contract have to be signed by a certain time to take charge of tomorrows game? Like a player has to be signed by 12 Midday the day before? If he’s taking training then he’s already signed his contract. Probably awaiting videos and media.
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Post by Block 22 on Nov 8, 2019 8:11:18 GMT
Tony Pulis got caught drink driving and some of you are still stuck up his backside telling us all he’s the best manager we’ve ever had.
But let’s not talk about that.
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Post by Block 22 on Nov 7, 2019 18:17:32 GMT
“He has no experience of the league”.
Marcelo Bielsa Jokanovic Lamouchi
Are just 3 names I can think of who had never managed in England before the Championship.
Gary Rowett Paul Lambert
All managed in England and the Championship before. I rest my case.
Welcome Michael
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Post by Block 22 on Nov 7, 2019 11:45:07 GMT
Sack berahino for drink driving.... Employ Michael O'neill who just got done for drink driving. But didn’t stop people wanting Pulis..
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Post by Block 22 on Nov 7, 2019 11:40:04 GMT
Funny how everyone knows all about Michael O’Neill all of a sudden and are slating the idea. I’d love to know how you’ve got your opinions of him.
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Post by Block 22 on Nov 6, 2019 20:27:29 GMT
Steve Clarke for me. He’d keep us up.
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Post by Block 22 on Nov 2, 2019 17:40:49 GMT
Just offer TP a £3M bonus for keeping us up. I’d rather stick pins in my eyes.
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Post by Block 22 on Nov 2, 2019 14:58:05 GMT
How do we get from them reporting us to the EFL and blocking our move to appointing him as our manager? We can’t but they’ve got be seen as digging in If they just went “ ok Stoke here’s his phone number” their fans would go mental I understand that but if they have already made an official complaint to the EFL as per their website then we really can forget him coming here can’t we? I can’t see us overcoming that to appoint him.
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Post by Block 22 on Nov 2, 2019 14:54:22 GMT
It’s just the usual rhetoric from Preston ....no more no less How do we get from them reporting us to the EFL and blocking our move to appointing him as our manager?
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Post by Block 22 on Nov 2, 2019 14:49:53 GMT
They’ll put him on gardening leave preventing him from coming in my opinion That would be disgraceful behaviour. They won’t get any compensation that way though..
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Post by Block 22 on Nov 2, 2019 14:35:59 GMT
PNE Official:
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Post by Block 22 on Nov 2, 2019 14:06:41 GMT
What happens now if Neil is keen on the move?
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Post by Block 22 on Aug 28, 2019 6:58:17 GMT
Getting back to back wins can help. Going on unbeaten run. Biggest part of football is confidence. Some people on here are totally ignorant to the importance of confidence. It is undeniably one of the biggest factors in football. Something we’ve not had since the slump started under Hughes.
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Post by Block 22 on Aug 27, 2019 19:44:50 GMT
It’s still a Diamond by the way, just with a back 3.
There’s nothing wrong with a diamond with 4 at the back once we get a bit of confidence in front of goal.
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Post by Block 22 on Aug 23, 2019 14:25:08 GMT
I don't blame Jones at all for backing himself to take this job,shows ambition and self-belief.But he has not backed it up with results and that is how he should be judged.Yes the players have to take some responsibility but he picks the team,formation and tactics.This job now needs a experienced manager who knows the league.Not a popular choice by any means but leaning towards you know who at the moment. He has more experience of Divs 1 and 2, maybe his intention is to take us there, so he can feel more comfortable and at home. Nonsense.
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Post by Block 22 on Aug 23, 2019 14:13:02 GMT
“Jones is failing with one of the strongest squads in The Championship”
“Jones has brought in players that are not good enough”
If you’re using both of these totally contradictory statements then it’s pretty clear you are bashing Jones for the sake of bashing Jones. It’s one or the other. You can’t use one and then use the other a couple of posts later or it just seems that you are throwing as much shit at Jones as possible with no real justification to make it stick.
If you’re saying Jones is failing with one of the strongest squads then surely Jones has recruited well and is failing in his performance management.
Or is it the contrary and he has recruited badly? It can’t be both. It’s one or the other.
I can accept that the job jones is doing is not good enough but being hypocritical and contradictory just to add fuel to the fire is below the belt. At least have some consistency and reasoning for your opinions.
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Post by Block 22 on Aug 23, 2019 12:28:55 GMT
Where's Mike Bassett when you need him? The Oatcake is full of them. Anything other than a formation from the 80’s and 2 banks of 4 is out of the question.
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Post by Block 22 on Aug 23, 2019 12:20:53 GMT
Despite us being so bad we have had one of the fewest shots against us and created one of the highest number of clear cut chances.. A poor game against QPR and an abhorrent one against Preston. The other two IN TERMS OF PERFORMANCE have been as good as anything we’ve seen since relegation. We got rid of Gary Rowett because he was too beige and his football was boring to watch, now we want to attack in numbers but be as resolute as a rock. It doesn’t work that way, we are clearly trying to put teams to the sword by scoring enough goals to kill games. For all of our BAD DEFENDING. I can only think of 3 times in 4 games that we have been cut open and exposed. It is being made out that every attack we look vulnerable, that is simply not true. All of the other goals against have been stupid mistakes. I am admitting that the results have not been good enough but it is not the system or the formation. Individual errors have cost us. It's pretty when it works going forward but we're at the bottom of the table and Jones' win rate is relegation form. Coupled with a very easy start to the season. Wait until we play Leeds, West Brom, Fulham and not a team that's going to just sit back and wait for us to make a mistake. Then we'll see how wide open we really are. The stats say that we don’t concede many expected goal scoring opportunities. We are letting people score from nothing through stupid mistakes! The table does not lie in terms of results. I would rather that we persevere with this formation and system that is very close to bringing good results than change to a pragmatic style of play and be bored to tears trying to hold onto 0-0’s away from home and 1-0’s at home like in the Pulis era.
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Post by Block 22 on Aug 23, 2019 12:04:24 GMT
Do you have a reasoned debate and put your point across about “how the formation” has cost us results this season? Or, how exactly the formation isn’t working? Looking at results is a very, very short sighted reasoning when you take the full context into account. Yes it's on many threads and many others have made it. I'm not just looking at results I'm looking at the gaps that are there when we're on the pitch. I'm looking at gaps in the the squad in key positions needed for that system to work. I'm looking at the lack of pace we have in a system that demands place. You can't blame your tools for a bad job when you've failed to procure the correct tools for that job. Despite us being so bad we have had one of the fewest shots against us and created one of the highest number of clear cut chances.. A poor game against QPR and an abhorrent one against Preston. The other two IN TERMS OF PERFORMANCE have been as good as anything we’ve seen since relegation. We got rid of Gary Rowett because he was too beige and his football was boring to watch, now we want to attack in numbers but be as resolute as a rock. It doesn’t work that way, we are clearly trying to put teams to the sword by scoring enough goals to kill games. For all of our BAD DEFENDING. I can only think of 3 times in 4 games that we have been cut open and exposed. It is being made out that every attack we look vulnerable, that is simply not true. All of the other goals against have been stupid mistakes. I am admitting that the results have not been good enough but it is not the system or the formation. Individual errors have cost us.
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Post by Block 22 on Aug 23, 2019 11:50:23 GMT
Another dogshit thread about formations and statistics and diamonds and -how they are different from 4.4.2 if you play the 'diamond' just play a simple 4.4.2, where players actually know where they are supposed to be on the blinking pitch both going forwards and in reverse and we might actually get somewhere Weve currently got dullard lumbering championship players - without much raw talent anyways, being coached to try to play like Brazil or Real Madrid or Bayern Munich or even Manchester City. SIMPLE OUTCOME = THEY CANT AND Sometimes players who are right footed playing on the left and, vice versa ( another modern sophistication thats seems good but basically means such players cannot really function doing their primary job even more dogshit . Its SIMPLE game ------ again ! Ps goalkeepers who cant stop simple routine shots fired pretty much straight at them -- does not help either mind. For all of your ill informed opinions above we have still performed well enough in 2 out of 4 games to have 6 points on the board. The system hasn’t cost us, the finer details have.
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Post by Block 22 on Aug 23, 2019 11:48:49 GMT
If you are ignorant enough to ignore all of the significant positive stats that have come from playing the Diamond. If you cannot see that comedy defending and terrible finishing has cost us games then you need to follow another sport. In a logical world (not the Oatcake) it really does not matter which formation you play if you cannot score from 6 yards or defend simple balls forward, in terms of creating and conceding chances, which if you didn’t know is more often than not how games are won, create more chances than you allow the opposition. We need to be more clinical in front of goal and stop making stupid and easily preventable errors at the back. Changing formation will not convert our easy chances, if anything we will create less. It won’t stop Butland from dropping howlers. Changing formation is not the answer. We all know the results haven’t been good enough but the formation hasn’t been the failure. You don’t change the engine in your car if your tyres are punctured do you? No but nor do you put bicycle tyres on the car and wonder why they are punctured... Do you have a reasoned debate and put your point across about “how the formation” has cost us results this season? Or, how exactly the formation isn’t working? Looking at results is a very, very short sighted reasoning when you take the full context into account.
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Post by Block 22 on Aug 23, 2019 10:07:28 GMT
If you are ignorant enough to ignore all of the significant positive stats that have come from playing the Diamond. If you cannot see that comedy defending and terrible finishing has cost us games then you need to follow another sport.
In a logical world (not the Oatcake) it really does not matter which formation you play if you cannot score from 6 yards or defend simple balls forward, in terms of creating and conceding chances, which if you didn’t know is more often than not how games are won, create more chances than you allow the opposition.
We need to be more clinical in front of goal and stop making stupid and easily preventable errors at the back. Changing formation will not convert our easy chances, if anything we will create less. It won’t stop Butland from dropping howlers.
Changing formation is not the answer. We all know the results haven’t been good enough but the formation hasn’t been the failure.
You don’t change the engine in your car if your tyres are punctured do you?
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Post by Block 22 on Aug 22, 2019 15:57:12 GMT
Absolute lunacy, some of this drivel.. “The diamond is not working”. Right so, we’ve created amongst the most clear cut chances, conceded amongst the least clear cut chances. Had more shots than the majority.. is it only me that this tells the system is working? Could be playing 1-1-8 formation, if you can’t score from 6 yards and your defenders and back 4 keep making school boy errors it doesn’t matter what formation you are playing. You take note of our general play when it comes to the system, which other than last nights abortion has been very good (despite results). Scoring clear cut chances and defending properly has zero to do with the formation. Changing to a flat 4-4-2 won’t make your strikers convert easy chances and your defenders and keeper stop doing blunders. Quite frankly, all this bollocks about the system is just fabricated, imaginary bullshit. Our form against QPR was very poor, last night was worse- so in 50% of our games we have been gash. Against Charlton and Derby we were the better team but had less shots on target than Charlton and one more than Derby- if it isn’t the system then clearly the players that Jones has acquired are not good enough, because as you point out the system change will not make us any better. As such we will be looking at a very long and difficult season. I did think that Jones would get it right, but now I am not so sure. I don’t think we were terrible against QPR, we weren’t good but it wasn’t horrendous. You reinforce my point with your shot on target stats. The system has no baring on how accurate your shots are, if Joe Allen can’t score an open goal from 4 yards out it doesn’t matter where our 11 players are stood on the pitch. Funny that you are blaming Jones’ acquisitions, I’d say the two players that are most accountable for their circus acts are Joe Allen and Jack Butland, both are playing like clowns. Is Jones culpable for playing those players every week? Yes, absolutely. Is the formation at fault? No.
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Post by Block 22 on Aug 22, 2019 15:41:14 GMT
All this bollocks about the formation is laughable.
If your defenders are behaving like clowns, your goalkeeper can’t catch a cold and your strikers can’t hit the sea if they fall out of water then it doesn’t matter what your formation is or who the manager is for that matter.
We have conceded amongst the least clear cut chances in the league, created amongst the most. Let’s stifle that completely by changing formation yet again when it’s not necessary.
Until we learn to be better in both boxes. We will continue to lose and draw football matches. We could play 10 strikers and not score and play 10 defenders and concede for fun at the moment. It’s nothing to do with the formation FFS!
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Joe Allen
Aug 22, 2019 15:33:31 GMT
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Post by Block 22 on Aug 22, 2019 15:33:31 GMT
So another game has passed Joe Allen by, another game (like many) where he has not lived up to his ability ‘on paper’. About time we put Joe on the bench and made him earn his place back in the side. Maybe a kick up the arse will sort him out.
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Post by Block 22 on Aug 22, 2019 15:28:55 GMT
Absolute lunacy, some of this drivel..
“The diamond is not working”. Right so, we’ve created amongst the most clear cut chances, conceded amongst the least clear cut chances. Had more shots than the majority.. is it only me that this tells the system is working?
Could be playing 1-1-8 formation, if you can’t score from 6 yards and your defenders and back 4 keep making school boy errors it doesn’t matter what formation you are playing.
You take note of our general play when it comes to the system, which other than last nights abortion has been very good (despite results). Scoring clear cut chances and defending properly has zero to do with the formation. Changing to a flat 4-4-2 won’t make your strikers convert easy chances and your defenders and keeper stop doing blunders.
Quite frankly, all this bollocks about the system is just fabricated, imaginary bullshit.
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Post by Block 22 on Aug 17, 2019 17:14:22 GMT
Joe Allen was quite literally the difference between drawing 2-2 and winning 3-1 today. He was a farce for their first letting Huddersfield run through the middle, then he pings the post when it’s harder to miss than to score from 2 yards out.
The sooner we stop picking him on his reputation (3years ago) the better.
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Post by Block 22 on Aug 13, 2019 20:56:17 GMT
Wigan 9 shots Stoke 24 shots Jesus. Hit the post and their keeper made some blinders also. Need to be more clinical still but another good performance but this timebacked up with a win!!
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Post by Block 22 on Aug 13, 2019 20:43:43 GMT
Only on the Oatcake..
We lose to Charlton 3-1 after playing them off the park. Oatcake: “Performances mean nothing it’s about results”.
Win 1-0. Hit the post, create loads, their keeper gets man of the match. Oatcake: “we only scored one though”.
I fucking despair, pass me the glue.
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Potter
Aug 10, 2019 18:20:54 GMT
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Post by Block 22 on Aug 10, 2019 18:20:54 GMT
He was average at Swansea last season and he’s won one game 3-0. Only on the Oatcake do we base the performance of managers after one game. Possibly the most ignorant post of the day. He had his team sold from under him and made do with youth team players and still finished 6 places and 10 points above us. A fantastic coach and one of the biggest dropped bollox our club has made is not appointing him when Hughes was sacked. He was available and wanted the Stoke job. Still think Brighton will go down.
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