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Post by datguy on Aug 10, 2019 15:50:37 GMT
Etebo couldn't come back quick enough.
He must have something in his contract that stipulates he has to play?
Awful. Again.
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Post by mrteddysalad on Aug 10, 2019 15:52:23 GMT
When Peter comes back it won’t be Allen that’s getting dropped either. Every manager seems to love him because he runs hard.
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Post by Jimm on Aug 10, 2019 15:53:11 GMT
He's is fucking wank, he has been for years!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 15:53:53 GMT
I thought he had a good game until he was forced into a more defensive role.
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Joe Allen
Aug 10, 2019 15:54:46 GMT
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Post by chuckrocky on Aug 10, 2019 15:54:46 GMT
He’s been absolutely abysmal these first two games. So has Clucas.
He’ll never be dropped unless injured though.
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Post by Cast no shadow on Aug 10, 2019 16:23:17 GMT
Going Tuesday night and cannot wait not to see him play.
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Post by Cast no shadow on Aug 10, 2019 16:23:45 GMT
He’s been absolutely abysmal these first two games. So has Clucas. He’ll never be dropped unless injured though. I don't think clucas has been too bad.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 10, 2019 16:24:56 GMT
I thought he had a good game until he was forced into a more defensive role. He was our weak link in any position.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 10, 2019 16:26:12 GMT
When Peter comes back it won’t be Allen that’s getting dropped either. Every manager seems to love him because he runs hard. It isn't just the managers, there's plenty on here that think he's our best player
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 10, 2019 16:27:15 GMT
He’s been absolutely abysmal these first two games. So has Clucas. He’ll never be dropped unless injured though. I don't think clucas has been too bad. I think Clucas could be an important player for us this season but many have already made their minds up because of shushingate.
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Joe Allen
Aug 10, 2019 16:37:54 GMT
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Post by mrteddysalad on Aug 10, 2019 16:37:54 GMT
I don't think clucas has been too bad. I think Clucas could be an important player for us this season but many have already made their minds up because of shushingate. Clucas constantly gives the ball away just like Joe
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Joe Allen
Aug 10, 2019 16:38:10 GMT
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Post by stokecitydom on Aug 10, 2019 16:38:10 GMT
We won’t be a successful side with Clucas & Joe Allen as your central midfielders. They offer very little in attack or defence, pretty much nothing players.
We need some athleticism & drive from the middle of the park.
It’s absolutely vital that we get Etebo in this team.
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Aug 10, 2019 16:41:13 GMT
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Post by tejstokie on Aug 10, 2019 16:41:13 GMT
Clueless. Runs alot. That is about it. Weak link in that side today.
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Post by maine on Aug 10, 2019 16:43:19 GMT
Simple response. The negative reaction towards Joe Allen is totally ridiculous.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 10, 2019 16:43:50 GMT
ABSOLUTE DROSS.....Again!
Surprise, Surprise
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 10, 2019 16:46:01 GMT
Desperate for Etebo, absolutely desperate.
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Post by wuzza on Aug 10, 2019 16:47:35 GMT
When will we learn that individual scapegoats will never be the root of our problems - it’s a team issue.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 10, 2019 16:53:07 GMT
When will we learn that individual scapegoats will never be the root of our problems - it’s a team issue. thats ok then, everything is fine!!!! they are a great bunch of lads and it doesn't matter if individuals play crap.
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Aug 10, 2019 16:54:57 GMT
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Post by milky on Aug 10, 2019 16:54:57 GMT
Desperate for Etebo, absolutely desperate. Should be a straight swap, Etebo in Allen out. We all know that wont happen though.
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Post by wuzza on Aug 10, 2019 16:56:36 GMT
When will we learn that individual scapegoats will never be the root of our problems - it’s a team issue. thats ok then, everything is fine!!!! they are a great bunch of lads and it doesn't matter if individuals play crap. That’s nothing like what I’ve said - we have basic fundamental issues stemming from the way the team has played for the past couple of years not one or two individuals. For what it’s worth the concept that Joe Allen is responsible for our woes is, in my opinion, ridiculous.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 17:09:55 GMT
Can we at the least just drop him one week to see what happens?!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 17:12:38 GMT
These players cant hold a candle to the team that went up Wilko wasn't great but his effort was superb This team lacks heart Peter Coates - this club is dying under this leadership
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Post by pushon on Aug 10, 2019 17:20:32 GMT
Joe Allen....MoM last week and again best Stoke player, by a country mile,this week. First name on the team sheet, no doubt. Whereas Butland...another shambolic display, he needs dropping double quick, before we also have to pay him to leave.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 10, 2019 17:21:39 GMT
thats ok then, everything is fine!!!! they are a great bunch of lads and it doesn't matter if individuals play crap. That’s nothing like what I’ve said - we have basic fundamental issues stemming from the way the team has played for the past couple of years not one or two individuals. For what it’s worth the concept that Joe Allen is responsible for our woes is, in my opinion, ridiculous. Who said Allen is responsible for our woes? No one person is responsible for our woes, nobody ever says that but that seems to be the only defence for Joe Allen's consistently inept performances. We have had 2.5 years of abject failure, would it not be remarkable if the one player who has been present in this whole period did not come under scrutiny? It must be everybody else who is the problem?
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Aug 10, 2019 17:23:33 GMT
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Post by tejstokie on Aug 10, 2019 17:23:33 GMT
Joe Allen....MoM last week and again best Stoke player, by a country mile,this week. First name on the team sheet, no doubt. Whereas Butland...another shambolic display, he needs dropping double quick, before we also have to pay him to leave. What in the? 😁
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Post by jeycov on Aug 10, 2019 17:26:45 GMT
These players cant hold a candle to the team that went up Wilko wasn't great but his effort was superb This team lacks heart Peter Coates - this club is dying under this leadership The key word there is TEAM as opposed to players trying to prove themselves as individuals With at least 2 players per position, there’s always the risk to be too selfish
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Joe Allen
Aug 10, 2019 17:31:44 GMT
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Post by onionman on Aug 10, 2019 17:31:44 GMT
His pitiful jogging around, getting absolutely nowhere near where he needed to be, for the second goal was utterly disgraceful.
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Post by wuzza on Aug 10, 2019 17:32:03 GMT
That’s nothing like what I’ve said - we have basic fundamental issues stemming from the way the team has played for the past couple of years not one or two individuals. For what it’s worth the concept that Joe Allen is responsible for our woes is, in my opinion, ridiculous. Who said Allen is responsible for our woes? No one person is responsible for our woes, nobody ever says that but that seems to be the only defence for Joe Allen's consistently inept performances. We have had 2.5 years of abject failure, would it not be remarkable if the one player who has been present in this whole period did not come under scrutiny? It must be everybody else who is the problem As I say it’s the way the team has played and been coached - a collective responsibility / failure. If anything I would say Joe has been one of the brighter aspects of the past 2 years.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 10, 2019 19:13:55 GMT
Twice in two weeks his laughable idea of pressing, which is to stand 3 fucking metres off a man and spread his arms out has resulted in a goal. Doesn’t do anywhere near enough going forward or defensively to merit a place but you can guarantee he’s the first name on the team sheet for what I can only think must be some kind of contractual reason. Absolutely dire in both games this season.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 10, 2019 19:16:34 GMT
He's a fucking disaster.
Be brave nathan. Drop him. It might save you your job
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