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Post by kidcrewbob on May 27, 2022 22:13:05 GMT
Slightly exaggerated but only about twice normal and that was 30 years ago - it’s a creditable turnout for the Vale and I hope they enjoy their day in the sun ........ We took 36000 for the play off at Cardiff, that's only 1 level higher Yup, proportionately similar so let’s stop trying to denigrate the Vale’s turnout for the sake of sad faux partisan reasons.
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 27, 2022 22:03:05 GMT
Slightly exaggerated but only about twice normal and that was 30 years ago - it’s a creditable turnout for the Vale and I hope they enjoy their day in the sun ........ Its not exaggerated in the slightest and their following is utterly pathetic in my opinion Nah - it’s you that’s a bit pathetic I’m afraid,,,,,,
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 27, 2022 21:24:09 GMT
Taking 3 or 4 times normal attendance - what would we take in similar circumstances? We took 40,000 to Wembley for the Autoglass in 92 Slightly exaggerated but only about twice normal and that was 30 years ago - it’s a creditable turnout for the Vale and I hope they enjoy their day in the sun ........
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 27, 2022 21:16:30 GMT
Shit the bed. First Wembley appearance for 26 years and they're taking less fans than we had ST holders this season. If it were a dog you'd put it down. Taking 3 or 4 times normal attendance - what would we take in similar circumstances?
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 27, 2022 21:08:20 GMT
Is he still here then ...??
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 25, 2022 9:05:10 GMT
FFP is a joke - Championship - everyone wants to win it and/or be promoted from it and actually has a fighting chance of doing just that with or without parachute payments. Premiership - purely about the cash & survival for all but 6 or 7 clubs - a good cup run is a bonus. So two very different raison d'etre for our top two leagues.....and my point is - I dunno really , just seems fucked up......
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 23, 2022 12:56:40 GMT
A result for the Prem rid itself of a vile pointless team that only tried to spoil and strangle the game. That's what they said about us....
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 21, 2022 20:19:34 GMT
Another big club that won’t make the same mistakes again - we have an uphill struggle without kicking a ball with sleepy Joe at the helm Struggled enough to get where they are. Nothing to suggest will kick on A sniff of the Prem does mysterious things these days - the clubs that challenge make the decisions and take the calculated risks necessary in this modern time - whilst we stick and hop e like it was the 70s.....
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 21, 2022 19:14:06 GMT
The man that brought Hughes down...........urghhhhh
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 21, 2022 19:13:03 GMT
Come on Coates - make MoN the director of sensible and get a new manager in - or just pay him off in Bushmills
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 21, 2022 19:09:29 GMT
Another big club that won’t make the same mistakes again - we have an uphill struggle without kicking a ball with sleepy Joe at the helm
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 20, 2022 7:07:49 GMT
Bottom half finish just avoiding relegation - hopeless.......
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 20, 2022 7:01:59 GMT
Yeh - it were when thowd king come t’throne..............nah it was the 70s.....!! . No, that was upto the 68/69/70/71 years. My dad took me to both grounds regularly from 1964 onwards with us both wearing the half Stoke, half Vale scarves. The difference being ...... from 1968/69/70 more often we would get 'gobbed on' by Vale fans, (old and young) at every match .. for wearing our scarves, where as, we didn't suffer any abuse at Stoke matches with our scarves. Hence, from 1970 onwards we were only full time Stoke supporters. Besides Stoke City represented the City, our home. Where as, to the world Port Vale is just two four letter words. I have to keep telling non football supporters down here that Port Vale isn't a place between Port Talbot and Ebbw Vale in Wales but an entity in the nether world of what they like to call the Potteries (not Stoke-On-Trent) - like saying Nottingham is in the 'Lace-ries' and Bolton is in the Cotton-ries. I agree that it’s an anachronism and I well remember the shame, pain and despair of playing in the 3rd tier when both Vale and Crewe lauded it up in the 2nd for a couple of seasons - I don’t support Vale - I just don’t get upset and feel the need to spit bile at them and respect those I know and have known who do, which includes close family, workmates and neighbours and be happy for them to enjoy a day in the sun.
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 19, 2022 22:09:31 GMT
It’s local people who can remember going to watch Vale as well as Stoke when they were perennially in the 4th div and Stoke In the 1st so it didn’t manifest as any sort of rivalry.....or those whose dads and grandads always liked to see both the Potteries clubs do well.........or indeed, actually supported Vale primarily...... That all went away decades ago Absolutely- but I remember it and my late dad was a Vale fan who went to Stanfields Tech and I’m not of a mind to spit bile at em - if we play against them of course I’d want us to smash em !
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 19, 2022 22:04:03 GMT
It’s local people who can remember going to watch Vale as well as Stoke when they were perennially in the 4th div and Stoke In the 1st so it didn’t manifest as any sort of rivalry.....or those whose dads and grandads always liked to see both the Potteries clubs do well.........or indeed, actually supported Vale primarily...... Was that in the days of Hovis , real butter real bread 😉 Yeh - it were when thowd king come t’throne..............nah it was the 70s.....!!
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 19, 2022 21:57:25 GMT
I really don't get stoke fans who praise vale you wouldn't see a Millwall fan praising West ham hope Mansfield beat them at wembley my word they are an unbearable lot! It’s local people who can remember going to watch Vale as well as Stoke when they were perennially in the 4th div and Stoke In the 1st so it didn’t manifest as any sort of rivalry.....or those whose dads and grandads always liked to see both the Potteries clubs do well.........or indeed, actually supported Vale primarily......
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 19, 2022 21:49:13 GMT
Need better safeguards for these playoff matches - the authorities have got slack in recent times - some shameful scenes across all leagues
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 19, 2022 21:40:15 GMT
What a come back ............deserved win........
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 19, 2022 18:00:13 GMT
Sleepy Joe
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 18, 2022 7:00:53 GMT
To be fair if we never had Jones, some might be saying what might have been Unbeaten against the 2 finalists this season, and losing points against all 3 relegated teams, our whole season has been a ‘what might of been’ season fair comments - woulda coulda shoulda .....sigh!
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 17, 2022 21:39:05 GMT
Did we have a chance of getting Cooper? What might have been ....
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 17, 2022 18:02:03 GMT
Lots of pre-emptive "not me guv" rhetoric to ward against future failure and zero reference to nor explanation for the *horrorific* run of results we endured to kybosh any hopes of play-offs - he's had his chance and he's not up to the mark.....unfortunately our owners haven't got the balls to do anything about it...... so on it goes. How come plenty of other teams have made a fist of getting into or almost into the playoffs without spending fortunes??
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 16, 2022 12:59:59 GMT
Well according to a huge hoarding next to the A500 at Shelton Stoke City & it's supporters are "family" - unfortunately this is not the case as healthy functioning families talk to each other, are respectful of each others needs and opinions and would do anything to help one another come what may. Whilst most supporters are fulfilling their side of the bargain the Club owners and management are mainly dismissive, disrespectful and disingenuous. We have heard nothing substantive as to the plan, strategy, hopes, ambitions and aspirations of the club or indeed offered any sort of insight as to how we intend to proceed nor any comments re the managerial position - either supportive, firm endorsement of MoN or even a lukewarm "confidence" statement - nothing, bugger all, nowt......and they MUST be aware of the unrest in a significant proportion of the support base - or should I call them "key stakeholders" - the club has regressed massively in last 5 years and now seems to have reverted to type ie a 70s 80s beer & sandwiches in a smoke filled room approach and we are at serious risk of stagnating further where the annual excitement may ammount to avoiding relegation. They need to get a decent CEO in ASAP (and a manager in my view) and try and drag us into the 21st century proper.......indeed, "they" are family and not "we" at the moment...... Regrettably absolutely on the nose with the functioning families analogy. Things do seem a little 'speak when spoken to' right now don't they. They do Skip, they give us the mushroom treatment and then patronise us with the odd sycophantic line now and again - just not good enough........worst thing is we had the prospect of long term Premier league permanancy within our grasp but a series of appalling decisons saw it all turn to dust......
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 16, 2022 12:42:36 GMT
Well according to a huge hoarding next to the A500 at Shelton Stoke City & it's supporters are "family" - unfortunately this is not the case as healthy functioning families talk to each other, are respectful of each others needs and opinions and would do anything to help one another come what may. Whilst most supporters are fulfilling their side of the bargain the Club owners and management are mainly dismissive, disrespectful and disingenuous.
We have heard nothing substantive as to the plan, strategy, hopes, ambitions and aspirations of the club or indeed offered any sort of insight as to how we intend to proceed nor any comments re the managerial position - either supportive, firm endorsement of MoN or even a lukewarm "confidence" statement - nothing, bugger all, nowt......and they MUST be aware of the unrest in a significant proportion of the support base - or should I call them "key stakeholders" - the club has regressed massively in last 5 years and now seems to have reverted to type ie a 70s 80s beer & sandwiches in a smoke filled room approach and we are at serious risk of stagnating further where the annual excitement may ammount to avoiding relegation.
They need to get a decent CEO in ASAP (and a manager in my view) and try and drag us into the 21st century proper.......indeed, "they" are family and not "we" at the moment......
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 13, 2022 19:24:25 GMT
That was a nailed on pen - ref bottled it. Cmon you hatters .....
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 13, 2022 13:38:01 GMT
You're a fantasist and your "mummy knows best" views reflective what's wrong with the club - it's not the fucking 70s anymore I have nothing further to say. Well you keep saying that ......!!
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 13, 2022 7:14:25 GMT
You have a very naive viewpoint - the only fact is that MoN hasn't been sacked yet - thats all we know for sure and *every* manager has a contract - means nothing other than being a mechanism that would dictate any termination settlement - given the somewhat toxic situation - borne out by these 200+ pages and 300k views since Jan 22 - the board *DO* need and indeed *SHOULD* make a statement in my view as supporters want to hear what the plans are for next season. They should at least back him if indeed that is what they intend to do - I think their silence so far is interesting and at best less than supportive. Again, we shall see....... There is no "toxic" situation at boardroom level. They are blissfully unaware of kidcrewbob's unhappy state. The plans for next season are very clear: business as usual. You "hear" silence, but in fact the board and the manager meet every week for lunch and always discuss the state of the art. If they wanted to express dissatisfaction they would do it there, equally if they want to express support it is there. They don't want to make public statements, because based on the last few statements that they made, they know that every single word will be turned and twisted unendingly and ridiculed by people in this very forum and others like it. You're a fantasist and your "mummy knows best" views reflective what's wrong with the club - it's not the fucking 70s anymore
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 13, 2022 6:24:58 GMT
You know fuck all then - you are just speculating on / hoping for an outcome that suits your view - same as the rest of us.......... Conversely I think it odd that there has been no club statement re what the plans are for next season now this dreadful season is behind us........ We shall see To comment on yours, I don't need to create hopes or speculate. I'm just looking at the facts: Michael O'Neill has a contract, which runs another year. The board don't nned to make a statement on what is bleedingly obvious! You have a very naive viewpoint - the only fact is that MoN hasn't been sacked yet - thats all we know for sure and *every* manager has a contract - means nothing other than being a mechanism that would dictate any termination settlement - given the somewhat toxic situation - borne out by these 200+ pages and 300k views since Jan 22 - the board *DO* need and indeed *SHOULD* make a statement in my view as supporters want to hear what the plans are for next season. They should at least back him if indeed that is what they intend to do - I think their silence so far is interesting and at best less than supportive. Again, we shall see.......
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 12, 2022 21:34:18 GMT
Has there been a "we back the manager for another season" statement from the club then ???? It's not necessary. You know fuck all then - you are just speculating on / hoping for an outcome that suits your view - same as the rest of us.......... Conversely I think it odd that there has been no club statement re what the plans are for next season now this dreadful season is behind us........ We shall see
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 12, 2022 10:54:25 GMT
I sadly have no doubt that we're stuck with him for next season, but it's difficult to back the manager based on the evidence of the past two seasons. You obviously seem quite happy to accept "inconsistent results and lacklustre, dour, boring football" as well as his baffling team selections and "tactics", and his plethora of excuses. The club isn't making progress, it's just treading water. He couldn't integrate 6 new signings in January into a better, more successful team, so I'm not holding my breath to see how he copes with the wholesale changes this summer. On what grounds do you reach your stupid judgment? I'm no more happy with what we're seeing than you are. But the simple fact, which you and a bunch of others seem incapable of understanding, is that there are only three people who make decisions about the manager, and they've decided to back him. No amount of repetitive messages in this thread by your lot is going to change that. So move on! Has there been a "we back the manager for another season" statement from the club then ????
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