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Post by wilcopotter on May 23, 2022 7:13:32 GMT
so similar to our own. Panic manager sacking, ill thought out/gamble to replace Dyche. No real investment or quality signings (Collins being an exception), an ageing squad and even have Beardsley and Pieters.
Probably worse off than us as they now have to pay back a 63M loan. Definitely best players set to leave.
Can’t see any quick return to the Prem for them.
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Post by shane071085 on May 23, 2022 7:21:27 GMT
i bet burnley still finish above us tho with our clown manager still in charge
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Post by shrewspotter on May 23, 2022 7:23:03 GMT
so similar to our own. Panic manager sacking, ill thought out/gamble to replace Dyche. No real investment or quality signings (Collins being an exception), an ageing squad and even have Beardsley and Pieters. Probably worse off than us as they now have to pay back a 63M loan. Definitely best players set to leave. Can’t see any quick return to the Prem for them. it is an ageing squad if Peter Beardsley is still it in |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 23, 2022 7:45:17 GMT
Sacking Dyche arguably the right move - he seemed to have gone stale and his methods stopped working - they won almost as many games in the run immediately after he was replaced as they did in the whole of the season up to that point.
Nevertheless, was in their own hands and they blew it, and they're now absolutely screwed.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 23, 2022 7:46:31 GMT
A result for the Prem rid itself of a vile pointless team that only tried to spoil and strangle the game.
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Post by metalhead on May 23, 2022 7:48:13 GMT
I'm not saying that Hughes wasn't absolutely ripe for sacking but I've always believed we would have stayed up had we kept him. We would have lost game after game 5-0 and scraped a 1-0 from somewhere. Lambert made us harder to beat but didn't solve the goal scoring issue.
I think much the same of Burnley. Dyche may well have scraped a survival out of somewhere. Instead, they've gone down without much of a fight like a limp dick on ladies night.
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Post by spitthedog on May 23, 2022 8:11:34 GMT
I'm not saying that Hughes wasn't absolutely ripe for sacking but I've always believed we would have stayed up had we kept him. We would have lost game after game 5-0 and scraped a 1-0 from somewhere. Lambert made us harder to beat but didn't solve the goal scoring issue. I think much the same of Burnley. Dyche may well have scraped a survival out of somewhere. Instead, they've gone down without much of a fight like a limp dick on ladies night. They did put up a fight though didn't they? Under Jackson they W3 D2 L3 which was a big improvement in form. When they sacked Dyche they looked dead and buried it was quite an achievement to take it to the last day I thought. |
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Post by skip on May 23, 2022 8:20:55 GMT
I'm just amazed Leeds survived.
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Post by scfc75 on May 23, 2022 8:22:27 GMT
It’s hard to call how any of the relegated sides will do this time around. It wouldn’t be a huge surprise to see any of them either storm the league, or totally tank.
As much as everybody says Fulham walked the league this season, they had the lowest points total of any champion since 2015. I don’t see any stand out teams this time. I can see a dark horse doing something special.
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Post by skip on May 23, 2022 8:25:49 GMT
And may that Dark Horse be called The Stoke! With Michael O'Neil sat astride, with his red and white striped lance in one hand and his armoured fist raised in triumph. ONWARDS!!!
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Post by scfc75 on May 23, 2022 8:30:37 GMT
And may that Dark Horse be called The Stoke! With Michael O'Neil sat astride, with his red and white striped lance in one hand and his armoured fist raised in triumph. ONWARDS!!! His ‘lance’ is a euphemism, right? |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on May 23, 2022 8:30:38 GMT
I liked Burnley in the Prem league.
However I do think I prefer Burnley over Leeds in the Championship next season.
Not that we will be anywhere near the Top 6 but there u go
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Post by lordb on May 23, 2022 8:31:36 GMT
£65m payment due ASAP
Tarkovski, Mee, Barnes out of contract
Pope, Cornet, Collins, McNeill all expected to be sold for potentially lower fees with little prospect of reinvestment
Could be grim
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Post by shane071085 on May 23, 2022 8:31:51 GMT
not a chance we will anywhere near the top of the table not with oneill in charge anyway
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Post by nottsover60 on May 23, 2022 8:40:27 GMT
I'm just amazed Leeds survived. Leeds had far more fight and togetherness I think, plus their crowds and Everton's crowds were probably more supportive and motivating than Burnley's. |
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Post by lennythegoose on May 23, 2022 8:44:17 GMT
A result for the Prem rid itself of a vile pointless team that only tried to spoil and strangle the game. …said most of the Prem when we were relegated. |
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Post by Davef on May 23, 2022 9:09:29 GMT
A result for the Prem rid itself of a vile pointless team that only tried to spoil and strangle the game. Are you an Arsenal fan? |
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Post by cvillestokie on May 23, 2022 9:44:19 GMT
so similar to our own. Panic manager sacking, ill thought out/gamble to replace Dyche. No real investment or quality signings (Collins being an exception), an ageing squad and even have Beardsley and Pieters. Probably worse off than us as they now have to pay back a 63M loan. Definitely best players set to leave. Can’t see any quick return to the Prem for them. They’ll likely get a good wedge for Ben Mee to be honest. If they sell Pope and Tarkowski for reasonable prices as well, they should still be able to reinvest and have a half decent squad. Edit - realized he’s 32. Perhaps they’ll have to sell Collins as well then. |
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Post by followyoudown on May 23, 2022 9:45:39 GMT
I'm just amazed Leeds survived. Leeds had far more fight and togetherness I think, plus their crowds and Everton's crowds were probably more supportive and motivating than Burnley's. Leeds almost had a bit too much fight, I think they still have big problems next year if Ted Lasso makes it to xmas I'll be surprised, Everton too imagine spending £500m and ending up with that team.... |
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Post by followyoudown on May 23, 2022 9:46:19 GMT
so similar to our own. Panic manager sacking, ill thought out/gamble to replace Dyche. No real investment or quality signings (Collins being an exception), an ageing squad and even have Beardsley and Pieters. Probably worse off than us as they now have to pay back a 63M loan. Definitely best players set to leave. Can’t see any quick return to the Prem for them. They’ll likely get a good wedge for Ben Mee to be honest. If they sell Pope and Tarkowski for reasonable prices as well, they should still be able to reinvest and have a half decent squad. Edit - realized he’s 32. Perhaps they’ll have to sell Collins as well then. Mee and Tarkowski are out of contract so are frees |
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Post by lordb on May 23, 2022 9:47:27 GMT
not a chance we will anywhere near the top of the table not with oneill in charge anyway What's that got to do with Burnley? |
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Post by lordb on May 23, 2022 9:48:14 GMT
so similar to our own. Panic manager sacking, ill thought out/gamble to replace Dyche. No real investment or quality signings (Collins being an exception), an ageing squad and even have Beardsley and Pieters. Probably worse off than us as they now have to pay back a 63M loan. Definitely best players set to leave. Can’t see any quick return to the Prem for them. They’ll likely get a good wedge for Ben Mee to be honest. If they sell Pope and Tarkowski for reasonable prices as well, they should still be able to reinvest and have a half decent squad. Edit - realized he’s 32. Perhaps they’ll have to sell Collins as well then. Mee, Barnes and Tarkovski are out of contract |
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Post by cvillestokie on May 23, 2022 9:48:27 GMT
They’ll likely get a good wedge for Ben Mee to be honest. If they sell Pope and Tarkowski for reasonable prices as well, they should still be able to reinvest and have a half decent squad. Edit - realized he’s 32. Perhaps they’ll have to sell Collins as well then. Mee and Tarkowski are out of contract so are frees Oh wow. Yeah, that is a blow. Especially Tarkowski. He’s 29 and could still bring in some decent money. |
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Post by followyoudown on May 23, 2022 9:51:41 GMT
Mee and Tarkowski are out of contract so are frees Oh wow. Yeah, that is a blow. Especially Tarkowski. He’s 29 and could still bring in some decent money. Yeah they turned down £25m or something like that from west ham. And as I was discussing with Bayern yesterday like we found with Butland getting a decent fee for Pope might be harder than it looks only Newcastle and West Ham look like potential homes will either pay £25m+ ? |
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Post by lordb on May 23, 2022 9:52:42 GMT
Oh wow. Yeah, that is a blow. Especially Tarkowski. He’s 29 and could still bring in some decent money. Yeah they turned down £25m or something like that from west ham. And as I was discussing with Bayern yesterday like we found with Butland getting a decent fee for Pope might be harder than it looks only Newcastle and West Ham look like potential homes will either pay £25m+ ? Newcastle might? |
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Post by huuuuuth on May 23, 2022 9:54:33 GMT
They’ll likely get a good wedge for Ben Mee to be honest. If they sell Pope and Tarkowski for reasonable prices as well, they should still be able to reinvest and have a half decent squad. Edit - realized he’s 32. Perhaps they’ll have to sell Collins as well then. Mee, Barnes and Tarkovski are out of contract Barnes would be a top quality shithouse in this league |
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Post by cvillestokie on May 23, 2022 9:55:53 GMT
Oh wow. Yeah, that is a blow. Especially Tarkowski. He’s 29 and could still bring in some decent money. Yeah they turned down £25m or something like that from west ham. And as I was discussing with Bayern yesterday like we found with Butland getting a decent fee for Pope might be harder than it looks only Newcastle and West Ham look like potential homes will either pay £25m+ ? Pope at least is roughly the same keeper he was a couple of seasons ago. Butland fell off quite dramatically post injury. 25+ million seems too high though, I’d agree. |
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Post by lordb on May 23, 2022 9:57:52 GMT
Mee, Barnes and Tarkovski are out of contract Barnes would be a top quality shithouse in this league Would assume whoever wins play offs will be in for him |
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Post by clarkeda on May 23, 2022 10:02:29 GMT
Yeah they turned down £25m or something like that from west ham. And as I was discussing with Bayern yesterday like we found with Butland getting a decent fee for Pope might be harder than it looks only Newcastle and West Ham look like potential homes will either pay £25m+ ? Newcastle might? Newcastles keeper Dubravka (sp?) is good isn’t he? Just been out injured for a while |
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Post by clarkeda on May 23, 2022 10:02:59 GMT
Mee, Barnes and Tarkovski are out of contract Barnes would be a top quality shithouse in this league Who we should have bought instead of Vokes. He’ll be up there with the top scorers in the league next year. |
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