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Post by Nick1984 on Sept 14, 2009 20:37:47 GMT
When most Brits travel to muslim countries we respect there religion, we don't drink, women cover up etc etc, I don't see the same from muslims visiting our country. Some qunts on this board won't be satisfied until we are all walking around in turbins and praying in a mosque. And there's Christians who'd be happy for me to have my cock cut off, doesn't make em all evil does it now!
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Post by french toast on Sept 14, 2009 20:43:54 GMT
The people who are protesting about life being too easy for immigrants (though I hope not for women in wheelchairs) are often, not always, ones who haven't taken their own chances with education for example, so they're more vulnerable in terms of jobs and housing than people who did choose to take those chances. I'm not saying any of that's right or wrong but I reckon it's fact and is one of the reasons BNP support is consistently highest in areas of low educational attainment, which has always been somewhere S-o-T's been near the bottom of the pile. (Which has got nothing to with intelligence.) i like to think i have taken most of my chances in education, in the career path i chose. that is the reason i disagree with your statement because i do think its to easy for immigrants.
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Post by Nick1984 on Sept 14, 2009 20:48:51 GMT
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorismJust thought I'd post this so that people who are paranoid about Islam and the Quran know that Christians around the world can be just as bad as Muslim extremists and you should tar all people who refer to themselves as 'Muslim' with the same brush. Remember Islam is about 600 years after Christianity, the Middle East/Islamic world hasn't had it's age of enlightenment... it took events like the Renaissance and the storming of the Bastille to get us out of the middle ages and totalitarian Christian rule. Turkey's an example of the Islamic world doing this.
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Post by broadwayroundabout on Sept 14, 2009 21:42:05 GMT
it fairly obvious from the replies on this subject that certain posters on here have no fcuking idea what its like to live in the areas where muslims/pakistanis or other ethnics live, yes you might have all sorts of replies or arguments that can be gathered from history books or journals on religion. Yes you may deal with a pakistani muslim or whatever in your business life but thats where business is business. Its about time you got your head out of your books and find out exactly whats going on in and around the streets of stoke on trent and why people feel like they do towards these ethnic groups. i'll ask one question to start with, and before you ask, yes i really do know the answer, "where does the majority of heroin in stoke on trent come from and how is it distributed. (quick note, the answer will not be found on wikipedia)
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2009 21:45:36 GMT
it fairly obvious from the replies on this subject that certain posters on here have no fcuking idea what its like to live in the areas where muslims/pakistanis or other ethnics live, yes you might have all sorts of replies or arguments that can be gathered from history books or journals on religion. Yes you may deal with a pakistani muslim or whatever in your business life but thats where business is business. Its about time you got your head out of your books and find out exactly whats going on in and around the streets of stoke on trent and why people feel like they do towards these ethnic groups. i'll ask one question to start with, and before you ask, yes i really do know the answer, "where does the majority of heroin in stoke on trent come from and how is it distributed. (quick note, the answer will not be found on wikipedia) Always ones for spotting a business opportunity these Asians!
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Post by Nick1984 on Sept 14, 2009 21:49:27 GMT
So Pakistan and Afghanistan has loads of poppy opium because they're inhabited by Muslims?
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Post by bostedclog on Sept 14, 2009 21:53:20 GMT
it fairly obvious from the replies on this subject that certain posters on here have no fcuking idea what its like to live in the areas where muslims/pakistanis or other ethnics live, yes you might have all sorts of replies or arguments that can be gathered from history books or journals on religion. Yes you may deal with a pakistani muslim or whatever in your business life but thats where business is business. Its about time you got your head out of your books and find out exactly whats going on in and around the streets of stoke on trent and why people feel like they do towards these ethnic groups. i'll ask one question to start with, and before you ask, yes i really do know the answer, "where does the majority of heroin in stoke on trent come from and how is it distributed. (quick note, the answer will not be found on wikipedia) I believe after living in Cheetham Hill and Moss Side in Manchester I do have an understanding about asian ans Black communities.The asian community in S-O-T doesnt even begin to compare mate. Heroin was here before the recent influx and will be here afterwards as will Cocaine and Weed.Thats all I have to say on drugs on this thread. p.s And the customers are what race.?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2009 21:53:53 GMT
What is the Colombians reason for having lots of Cocaine?
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Post by bostedclog on Sept 14, 2009 21:55:16 GMT
What is the Colombians reason for having lots of Cocaine? Global domination of course.Tut.
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Post by Nick1984 on Sept 14, 2009 21:57:14 GMT
What is the Colombians reason for having lots of Cocaine? They love the shit ;D
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Post by broadwayroundabout on Sept 14, 2009 21:58:38 GMT
So Pakistan and Afghanistan has loads of poppy opium because they're inhabited by Muslims? not being quite as clever as you Nick, i was making a general point of try to give a direction of the feeling of the people of stoke toward pakitani / asian / muslim (whatever ethnicity) for various reasons not just for being a muslim.
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Post by Nick1984 on Sept 14, 2009 22:00:17 GMT
Stoke's full of smackheads, why single out one ethnic group?
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Post by broadwayroundabout on Sept 14, 2009 22:00:43 GMT
it fairly obvious from the replies on this subject that certain posters on here have no fcuking idea what its like to live in the areas where muslims/pakistanis or other ethnics live, yes you might have all sorts of replies or arguments that can be gathered from history books or journals on religion. Yes you may deal with a pakistani muslim or whatever in your business life but thats where business is business. Its about time you got your head out of your books and find out exactly whats going on in and around the streets of stoke on trent and why people feel like they do towards these ethnic groups. i'll ask one question to start with, and before you ask, yes i really do know the answer, "where does the majority of heroin in stoke on trent come from and how is it distributed. (quick note, the answer will not be found on wikipedia) I believe after living in Cheetham Hill and Moss Side in Manchester I do have an understanding about asian ans Black communities.The asian community in S-O-T doesnt even begin to compare mate. Heroin was here before the recent influx and will be here afterwards as will Cocaine and Weed.Thats all I have to say on drugs on this thread. p.s And the customers are what race.? all sorts .....you meet the nicest people in business ! <---- a spin on someone else's quote not mine (before anyone gets the idea i'm in the drugs business )
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Post by broadwayroundabout on Sept 14, 2009 22:04:56 GMT
Stoke's full of smackheads, why single out one ethnic group? you are or chose to, missing the point i'm trying to make, "muslims & this board" is this not supposed to be a debate on why people dislike muslims, are afraid of them, support them, have no problem with them, i'm giving you a reason why they are disliked (please bear in mind that some people do not see asians / pakistanis / muslims as being different)
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Post by Nick1984 on Sept 14, 2009 22:07:41 GMT
So in your logic, say you hate people who litter, everyone does it. But today you're just gonna single out muslims that drop litter?
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Post by french toast on Sept 14, 2009 22:12:08 GMT
it fairly obvious from the replies on this subject that certain posters on here have no fcuking idea what its like to live in the areas where muslims/pakistanis or other ethnics live, yes you might have all sorts of replies or arguments that can be gathered from history books or journals on religion. Yes you may deal with a pakistani muslim or whatever in your business life but thats where business is business. Its about time you got your head out of your books and find out exactly whats going on in and around the streets of stoke on trent and why people feel like they do towards these ethnic groups. i'll ask one question to start with, and before you ask, yes i really do know the answer, "where does the majority of heroin in stoke on trent come from and how is it distributed. (quick note, the answer will not be found on wikipedia) I believe after living in Cheetham Hill and Moss Side in Manchester I do have an understanding about asian ans Black communities.The asian community in S-O-T doesnt even begin to compare mate. Heroin was here before the recent influx and will be here afterwards as will Cocaine and Weed.Thats all I have to say on drugs on this thread. p.s And the customers are what race.? fuck me, you just blame the white guy for everything
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2009 22:17:17 GMT
Maybe every part of society is partly to blame!
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Post by Nick1984 on Sept 14, 2009 22:20:53 GMT
Maybe every part of society is partly to blame! Getting somewhere now
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Post by broadwayroundabout on Sept 14, 2009 22:23:52 GMT
bloody hell nick, come on, i'm not blaming anyone, i am merely trying to give you an insight into why muslims are hated (because a lot of people DO NOT distinguish between asian / pakistani / whatever). just an off the wall question, do you live in the Westlands?
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Post by bostedclog on Sept 14, 2009 22:25:10 GMT
I believe after living in Cheetham Hill and Moss Side in Manchester I do have an understanding about asian ans Black communities.The asian community in S-O-T doesnt even begin to compare mate. Heroin was here before the recent influx and will be here afterwards as will Cocaine and Weed.Thats all I have to say on drugs on this thread. p.s And the customers are what race.? fuck me, you just blame the white guy for everything You said that not me Stokie.But it is fair to say that most heroin users in SOT are white. 90% of the heroin what is for sale in the uk comes from Afghanistan. There is more heroin in Britain now since we went there from Afghanistan than ever before.
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Post by french toast on Sept 14, 2009 22:28:18 GMT
fuck me, you just blame the white guy for everything You said that not me Stokie.But it is fair to say that most heroin users in SOT are white. 90% of the heroin what is for sale in the uk comes from Afghanistan. There is more heroin in Britain now since we went there from Afghanistan than ever before. i would like to know how you know this or any proof?? im pretty sure herion users dont openly admit to being an addict
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Post by Nick1984 on Sept 14, 2009 22:31:23 GMT
bloody hell nick, come on, i'm not blaming anyone, i am merely trying to give you an insight into why muslims are hated (because a lot of people DO NOT distinguish between asian / pakistani / whatever). just an off the wall question, do you live in the Westlands? No, but ya gonna have drugs problems if ya living in Knutton/Clayton
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Post by bostedclog on Sept 14, 2009 22:35:44 GMT
You said that not me Stokie.But it is fair to say that most heroin users in SOT are white. 90% of the heroin what is for sale in the uk comes from Afghanistan. There is more heroin in Britain now since we went there from Afghanistan than ever before. i would like to know how you know this or any proof?? im pretty sure herion users dont openly admit to being an addict Not again .Research it yourself mate.
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Post by serpico on Sept 14, 2009 22:37:11 GMT
You said that not me Stokie.But it is fair to say that most heroin users in SOT are white. 90% of the heroin what is for sale in the uk comes from Afghanistan. There is more heroin in Britain now since we went there from Afghanistan than ever before. i would like to know how you know this or any proof?? im pretty sure herion users dont openly admit to being an addict I don't know about the amount in Britain, but since we got rid of the Taliban heroin production has sky rocketed considerably. and none other than President Karzai's brother has been heavily linked to being involved . www.nytimes.com/2008/10/04/world/asia/04iht-05afghan.16689186.html
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Post by french toast on Sept 14, 2009 22:37:22 GMT
i would like to know how you know this or any proof?? im pretty sure herion users dont openly admit to being an addict Not again .Research it yourself mate. you know exaactly whats coming next time you ask for proof ;D
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Post by serpico on Sept 14, 2009 22:42:00 GMT
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Post by eddy_under_fire'sviews on Sept 14, 2009 23:17:06 GMT
I think all religion is bollocks and should be banned from all schools along with all religious attire...Scarves,crosses, veils, gowns...the bloody lot. A total ban. i'm sorry mate but that is bollocks. if i wanna wear a crucifix or whatever in school (even though i am 21) i should be allowed to. all part of my freedom to practice in any faith i feel like. in the exact same way that if someone tells me about the BNP he has the right to (even though i will shout and scream at him till the cows come home about how much of an idiot he is.)
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Post by onetruepotter on Sept 14, 2009 23:23:15 GMT
it fairly obvious from the replies on this subject that certain posters on here have no fcuking idea what its like to live in the areas where muslims/pakistanis or other ethnics live, yes you might have all sorts of replies or arguments that can be gathered from history books or journals on religion. Yes you may deal with a pakistani muslim or whatever in your business life but thats where business is business. Its about time you got your head out of your books and find out exactly whats going on in and around the streets of stoke on trent and why people feel like they do towards these ethnic groups. i'll ask one question to start with, and before you ask, yes i really do know the answer, "where does the majority of heroin in stoke on trent come from and how is it distributed. (quick note, the answer will not be found on wikipedia) spot on mate
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Post by Beardy200 on Sept 14, 2009 23:47:52 GMT
I see the Muslim/any religion argument in a very similar way to the Glen Whelan argument. ;D
Lots of people don't understand the fascination from some posters on here to defend them all to the hilt and see practically no harm in them or how they are changing our country in anyway.
This leaves people like me who have no real problem with Glen Whelan at all really but i almost feel obligated to side against him just to settle a few down on the other side who think he's like a saint who can do no wrong.
They of course see me doing this and then strengthen their beliefs the other way even more and and on we go.
I'm afraid racism and Glen Whelan debates will always cause rows. ;D
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2009 23:54:30 GMT
The only person who thinks Muslims can do no wrong is Bosted. The rest of just read inbalanced bullshit that isn't true. Hence my comment above.
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