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Post by henryalmond on Sept 13, 2009 22:46:39 GMT
I hate all religions. They are all a bag of shite and cause no end of trouble. That is all. Bye. Hear hear ^^^ Nothing more than a bunch of bullies the lot of um I've seen both ends of religion,front and back so to speak. My conclusion is People who believe in religion only do so because they find it hard to believe in themselves.
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Post by Nick1984 on Sept 13, 2009 22:55:16 GMT
True, have been reading Richard Dawkins - The God Delusion, amazing read!
Edit: Posted this further down, it's a 5 part documentary and really eye opening
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Post by bostedclog on Sept 13, 2009 22:57:02 GMT
Very good post Sal bit alas this board is not the place where you can have a decent discussion on theses matters im afraid.Its not a place for persuasive arguments or discussions .You obviously have your opinion on the subject as do I and many others .But if the TRUE answers were written it would upset an awful lot of people so there is no point really. Theres a lot of info on the net and studies why poor working class areas turn to right wing policies in times of depression and economical hardship..Germany circa 1930s is the prime example of all. Read please... www.historylearningsite.co.uk/weimar_depression_1929.htmSo in affect the second world war WAS started by capitalism and the good old you.S.A The government and media seem to do a good job of stirring up hatred and fear .Who are they protecting it isnt me and anyone else on this board.Its their power what's under threat and the status quo..
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Post by Nick1984 on Sept 13, 2009 23:04:43 GMT
I do see racism, nationalism and bigatory having a correlation with depravity, but Islamiphobia isn't linked with an specific demographic as such.
Islam isn't a 'race', a nation, or a mental state. It's a cult that anyone can become a victim of with the right kind of brainwashing/threats.
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Post by bostedclog on Sept 13, 2009 23:07:04 GMT
I do see racism, nationalism and bigatory having a correlation with depravity, but Islamiphobia isn't linked with an specific demographic as such. Islam isn't a 'race', a nation, or a mental state. It's a cult that anyone can become a victim of with the right kind of brainwashing/threats. Most "possibly all"people on this board who dislike Islam also dislike Pakistanis "FACT" So yes it is racist imo..
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Post by mumf14 on Sept 13, 2009 23:15:05 GMT
Bosted...In times of deep recession I resent all immigration.That is the fundamental difference ...my argument is an economic one..political.
I have no hatred for any particular religion or nationality.I may make jokes about such stuff but I think we as a country do not help ourselves by getting involved in too many foreign conflicts.
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Post by Nick1984 on Sept 13, 2009 23:16:43 GMT
I think you really have to see the Quran to see where I'm coming from, though the Bible's '3 sons of Noah' story is as equally sickening as ANYTHING in the Islamic scripts.
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Post by jonesinamillion on Sept 13, 2009 23:17:55 GMT
It's a simple fact that the vast majority of white british citizens tar all muslims with the extremist brush. There's a distinct lack of understanding / education , tollerance and ignorance on our part - couple this with "the asian comunity" having no desire to integrate into a western socienty and being secretive / exclusive in their worship and social circles, the cycle of hate will never end.
Compound this with numerous large scale terrorist atrocities targeting western ideals, it's hardly inconcievable that there's no love loss between the christian & mulsim tactions on these shores!
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Post by mumf14 on Sept 13, 2009 23:19:36 GMT
I think all religion is bollocks and should be banned from all schools along with all religious attire...Scarves,crosses, veils, gowns...the bloody lot.
A total ban.
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Post by Beardy200 on Sept 13, 2009 23:23:40 GMT
I do see racism, nationalism and bigatory having a correlation with depravity, but Islamiphobia isn't linked with an specific demographic as such. Islam isn't a 'race', a nation, or a mental state. It's a cult that anyone can become a victim of with the right kind of brainwashing/threats. Most "possibly all"people on this board who dislike Islam also dislike Pakistanis "FACT" So yes it is racist imo.. I dislike Pakistanis "GENERALLY" Bosted as in my experience they are miserable, rude buggers who don't seem to like me very much despite them not even knowing me. However the next Pakistani i meet i will give the same grace and opportunity as i would anybody else i meet no matter where they are from, what colour their skin or whatever their religion may be, as i'm aware they are not all the same. The same pretty much goes "GENERALLY" with Scots aswell. Now a question for you: Am i racist?
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Post by bostedclog on Sept 13, 2009 23:25:39 GMT
Most "possibly all"people on this board who dislike Islam also dislike Pakistanis "FACT" So yes it is racist imo.. I dislike Pakistanis "GENERALLY" Bosted as in my experience they are miserable, rude buggers who don't seem to like me very much despite them not even knowing me. However the next Pakistani i meet i will give the same grace and opportunity as i would anybody else i meet no matter where they are from, what colour their skin or whatever their religion may be. The same pretty much goes "GENERALLY" with Scots aswell. Now a question for you: Am i racist? I cannot accept that Beardy and I will call you a liar. I
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Post by Nick1984 on Sept 13, 2009 23:26:04 GMT
Yes religious symbols should be banned in school, religious education should play a big importance in schools as long as all religions are looked at equally.
Can't believe that in this day and age we still have faith schools!
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Post by Beardy200 on Sept 13, 2009 23:26:47 GMT
I dislike Pakistanis "GENERALLY" Bosted as in my experience they are miserable, rude buggers who don't seem to like me very much despite them not even knowing me. However the next Pakistani i meet i will give the same grace and opportunity as i would anybody else i meet no matter where they are from, what colour their skin or whatever their religion may be. The same pretty much goes "GENERALLY" with Scots aswell. Now a question for you: Am i racist? I cannot accept that Beardy and I will call you a liar. I What i have written there is my 100% belief and not in any way just there to piss about mate.
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Post by bostedclog on Sept 13, 2009 23:28:54 GMT
Most "possibly all"people on this board who dislike Islam also dislike Pakistanis "FACT" So yes it is racist imo.. I dislike Pakistanis "GENERALLY" Bosted as in my experience they are miserable, rude buggers who don't seem to like me very much despite them not even knowing me. However the next Pakistani i meet i will give the same grace and opportunity as i would anybody else i meet no matter where they are from, what colour their skin or whatever their religion may be, as i'm aware they are not all the same. The same pretty much goes "GENERALLY" with Scots aswell. Now a question for you: Am i racist? Most "possibly all"people on this board who dislike Islam also dislike Pakistanis "FACT" So yes it is racist imo.. I dislike Pakistanis "GENERALLY" Bosted as in my experience they are miserable, rude buggers who don't seem to like me very much despite them not even knowing me. However the next Pakistani i meet i will give the same grace and opportunity as i would anybody else i meet no matter where they are from, what colour their skin or whatever their religion may be. The same pretty much goes "GENERALLY" with Scots aswell. Now a question for you: Am i racist? Bullshit Beardy. I mix practically daily with asian people and to say that they are rude is just not true mate at all... If you are ok with them they will be ok with you .Just a quickie what age of people are you talking about.?
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Post by jonesinamillion on Sept 13, 2009 23:30:07 GMT
Thought you were religious anyway beardy?
Rastafarian?
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Post by bostedclog on Sept 13, 2009 23:31:01 GMT
Thought you were religious anyway beardy? Rastafarian? Ha people hated them until they kicked some ass and then they became ok..
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Post by Beardy200 on Sept 13, 2009 23:36:19 GMT
That's your experience and good luck to you, doesn't make my experience bullshit i don't think mate and it definitely doesn't make me a liar. I worked in Bilston for 12 years mate, believe me i've mixed with them on a daily basis aswell. I find Indians "IN GENERAL" much more friendly people. Can i ask you a question now? Are there any countries in the world that you think "IN GENERAL" have people who are either more miserable and rude or even nicer than others or not? Personally i do because based on the ones i've met i have a survey to base my findings on (so to speak, i don't really have a survey ;D ). I stand by what i know, "IN GENERAL" Pakistanis and Scots are pretty rude fuckers, in my opinion. Doesn't mean i don't have Scottish or Pakistani friends or people i know that are lovely people, it's just a general opinion. Am i racist?
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Post by Nick1984 on Sept 13, 2009 23:39:07 GMT
You're somehow saying genetics has something to do with personality?
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Post by Beardy200 on Sept 13, 2009 23:40:54 GMT
You're somehow saying genetics has something to do with personality? No more than it has to do with religion and yet they are definitely more religious than we are so i'm not with you really
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Post by bostedclog on Sept 13, 2009 23:41:00 GMT
No Beardy saying a particular race is miserable isn't racist and you know it mate.. ..But it is strange to say the least .. Tell ya what fella what about the chinese in this country they dont integrate at all with our society .But do you hear people slagging them off for it no you dont . I wonder why.?
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Post by Beardy200 on Sept 13, 2009 23:41:45 GMT
You're somehow saying genetics has something to do with personality? And for the record, i think genetics probably does have something to do with personality. ;D
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Post by mumf14 on Sept 13, 2009 23:41:46 GMT
Beardy....Not racist...Probably just unlucky....
So am I ...you should see what I married.When she gets out of bed it looks like a solar eclipse.
Her middle name is painfull...
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Post by jonesinamillion on Sept 13, 2009 23:43:18 GMT
I find Indians "IN GENERAL" much more friendly people. Am i racist? In my limited experience you're right on the money there beardy! And yes, you're racist... by casting an opinion on a person based on where they come from / religion; In this sense I'm a firm believer that 99.9% of us also are. Example, gypsies move into the bottom of your street, suddeny find yourself locking the doors more often?
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Post by mumf14 on Sept 13, 2009 23:44:13 GMT
No Beardy saying a particular race is miserable isn't racist and you know it mate.. Tell ya what fella what about the chinese in this country they dont integrate at all with our society .But do you hear people slagging them off for it no you dont . I wonder why.? Because they are 'slanty eyed little yellow Triad bastards' who would kill you if you upset them....!!!
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Post by bostedclog on Sept 13, 2009 23:44:17 GMT
Beardy....Not racist...Probably just unlucky.... So am I ...you should see what I married.When she gets out of bed it looks like a solar eclipse. Her middle name is painfull... She speaks very highly of you Mumf as as well. P.S Ive signed for the Wellington pool team tonight .The Navi team are no more.
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Post by Beardy200 on Sept 13, 2009 23:45:31 GMT
Beardy....Not racist...Probably just unlucky.... So am I ...you should see what I married.When she gets out of bed it looks like a solar eclipse. Her middle name is painfull... ;D So as far as you pair are concerned all races, religions and country's people are all EXACTLY EQUAL IN EVERY WAY as far as their personalities are concerned?
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Sept 13, 2009 23:45:46 GMT
You're somehow saying genetics has something to do with personality? Well.. yeah.. of course it does to a certain degree According to your thinking then, you have no likenesses or characteristics that your parents have in terms of personality? I know I'm forever told my humour is like me Dads and I have the short temper and full frontal honesty of me Mum. Genetics? Obviously yes..
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Post by jonesinamillion on Sept 13, 2009 23:47:00 GMT
Tell ya what fella what about the chinese in this country they dont integrate at all with our society .But do you hear people slagging them off for it no you dont . I wonder why.? ... because they cook fcuking good food and you don't get "extremist chinese" commiting or attempting mass atrocities on innocent western citzens maybe?
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Post by mumf14 on Sept 13, 2009 23:47:12 GMT
What nights are you playing then..?
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Post by bostedclog on Sept 13, 2009 23:47:51 GMT
You're somehow saying genetics has something to do with personality? Well.. yeah.. of course it does to a certain degree According to your thinking then, you have no likenesses or characteristics that your parents have in terms of personality? I know I'm forever told my humour is like me Dads and I have the short temper and full frontal honesty of me Mum. Genetics? Obviously yes.. Not sure whether its genetics .Its just what you have seen is acceptable behaviour.And youve taken a pinch from both of your parents,,
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