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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Apr 8, 2024 17:43:52 GMT
Both need to be offered Steven’s one year and Thomson 2 with a one year option anyone whip thinks we can improve on them in an another summer of much movement is deluded not to mention both have gret attitudes and add steel we badly need its the likes of Wesley , Johnson , vidigal , Haks , cuddle we need tp move on and weve got to replace hoover and Campbell and mcnally We don't haven't got to move on Wesley, Haks or Cundle - they are on loan or a 1 year contract.
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Post by a on Apr 8, 2024 18:34:24 GMT
Only keep Thompson if we don’t find a replacement, and if that happens we’ll have arsed up a transfer window again. Yea could be another Tymon sized gap.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 8, 2024 18:49:57 GMT
Both need to be offered Steven’s one year and Thomson 2 with a one year option anyone whip thinks we can improve on them in an another summer of much movement is deluded not to mention both have gret attitudes and add steel we badly need its the likes of Wesley , Johnson , vidigal , Haks , cuddle we need tp move on and weve got to replace hoover and Campbell and mcnally We don't haven't got to move on Wesley, Haks or Cundle - they are on loan or a 1 year contract. They all need replacing in the squad
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Post by lordb on Apr 8, 2024 18:52:52 GMT
We don't haven't got to move on Wesley, Haks or Cundle - they are on loan or a 1 year contract. They all need replacing in the squad I don't think Cundle does Would add Sidebe to the first team squad DJ and probably Pearson to go Keep JT Leaves, Burger, Baker, Laurent, JT and Sidebe with Junho playing more games at inside forward that's the right number I think Don't think we will keep Haks
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Post by peterthornesboots on Apr 8, 2024 19:28:52 GMT
Thompson definitely deserves a contract in my eyes.
As a squad player, he certainly adds a little bit of versatility to the squad and, personally, I do not think he has ever really let us down.
Stevens is a bigger question. His injury record over the last couple of seasons has been really poor. I would assume that he will move on in the summer as long as we can bring in an adequate replacement.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 8, 2024 19:40:37 GMT
They all need replacing in the squad I don't think Cundle does Would add Sidebe to the first team squad DJ and probably Pearson to go Keep JT Leaves, Burger, Baker, Laurent, JT and Sidebe with Junho playing more games at inside forward that's the right number I think Don't think we will keep Haks Are you genuinely happy with them as the midfield options? Burger is the only one who should be starting regularly really. We have to sign another central midfielder.
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Post by lordb on Apr 8, 2024 19:48:36 GMT
I don't think Cundle does Would add Sidebe to the first team squad DJ and probably Pearson to go Keep JT Leaves, Burger, Baker, Laurent, JT and Sidebe with Junho playing more games at inside forward that's the right number I think Don't think we will keep Haks Are you genuinely happy with them as the midfield options? Burger is the only one who should be starting regularly really. We have to sign another central midfielder. I'd be happier if Pearson could turn things round but presume that won't happen Burger, Baker, Bae should be at the very least as good as any other midfield 3 outside the parachute payment clubs Don’t know what budget we will have but money to be spent on striker* (2 if Mmaee leaves), quality left wing (allowing Bae to move inside 2 left backs, 2 CB's, Goalkeeper Plenty to do, central midfield is bottom of the the priority list *this is the key one someone who can get into the area and score minimum 10 goals and more like 15 eons since we've had one
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Apr 8, 2024 22:17:41 GMT
We don't haven't got to move on Wesley, Haks or Cundle - they are on loan or a 1 year contract. They all need replacing in the squad Well yes but that isn't moving them on and we knew when we brought them in on short term contracts that we would have to replace them in the summer. Given that none of them has actually set the place on fire the fact we are in a position to replace them is a good thing. You are making out there is a problem where there isn't one.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 9, 2024 7:40:21 GMT
They all need replacing in the squad Well yes but that isn't moving them on and we knew when we brought them in on short term contracts that we would have to replace them in the summer. Given that none of them has actually set the place on fire the fact we are in a position to replace them is a good thing. You are making out there is a problem where there isn't one. The problem / lesson is don’t replace too many all at once and get some balance the new sporting director is much more measured and grounded and will know that so i feel our most realistic simmer for years may be ahead and just my bevAustria pre season 😉
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Post by idle on Apr 9, 2024 8:56:38 GMT
Are you genuinely happy with them as the midfield options? Burger is the only one who should be starting regularly really. We have to sign another central midfielder. I'd be happier if Pearson could turn things round but presume that won't happen Burger, Baker, Bae should be at the very least as good as any other midfield 3 outside the parachute payment clubs Don’t know what budget we will have but money to be spent on striker* (2 if Mmaee leaves), quality left wing (allowing Bae to move inside 2 left backs, 2 CB's, Goalkeeper Plenty to do, central midfield is bottom of the the priority list *this is the key one someone who can get into the area and score minimum 10 goals and more like 15 eons since we've had one I think Pearson has it in him to at least be a reliable rotation option. His ability is undoubted, but the question is if can get fit enough to play 40+ games and stop getting suspended all the time. If he does we have Burger and Pearson as defensive midfielders, and Bae will probably grow into a superb AM centrally. I don't see Baker and Laurent as good enough going forward. Baker only has his free-kicks and little else. Useful in the stuation we are in, but not good enough to be a mainstay in a team pushing for play-offs. Laurent is too inconsistent to be a first teamer, and hasnt had many good games coming on from the bench, which suggests to me that he has a bit of an attitude problem. Sidibe should be the main backup behind Burger and Pearson, with Thompson as a "safe option" from the bench. Johnson should be given away, so I agree with bayern that we need another first team/rotation midfielder, especially as an 8/10 (AM). Maybe two.
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Post by thornestein on Apr 9, 2024 10:24:55 GMT
I'd be happier if Pearson could turn things round but presume that won't happen Burger, Baker, Bae should be at the very least as good as any other midfield 3 outside the parachute payment clubs Don’t know what budget we will have but money to be spent on striker* (2 if Mmaee leaves), quality left wing (allowing Bae to move inside 2 left backs, 2 CB's, Goalkeeper Plenty to do, central midfield is bottom of the the priority list *this is the key one someone who can get into the area and score minimum 10 goals and more like 15 eons since we've had one I think Pearson has it in him to at least be a reliable rotation option. His ability is undoubted, but the question is if can get fit enough to play 40+ games and stop getting suspended all the time. If he does we have Burger and Pearson as defensive midfielders, and Bae will probably grow into a superb AM centrally. I don't see Baker and Laurent as good enough going forward. Baker only has his free-kicks and little else. Useful in the stuation we are in, but not good enough to be a mainstay in a team pushing for play-offs. Laurent is too inconsistent to be a first teamer, and hasnt had many good games coming on from the bench, which suggests to me that he has a bit of an attitude problem. Sidibe should be the main backup behind Burger and Pearson, with Thompson as a "safe option" from the bench. Johnson should be given away, so I agree with bayern that we need another first team/rotation midfielder, especially as an 8/10 (AM). Maybe two. if we have Baker & Laurent in our midfield next season it’s going be the same old shit , neither are good enough
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Post by spiderpuss on Apr 9, 2024 10:32:54 GMT
Not sure if it's been mentioned, but Sentinel reporting Clarke has moved on to USA to link up with Stoke old boy Ireland. No mention on SCFC though.
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Post by thischarmingmanc on Apr 9, 2024 10:41:18 GMT
You seem to expect us to sign premiership ready players for every position. I would agree Burger is the standout player, and another of the same quality who could compleiment would be very nice. But that doesnt mean Baker and Laurent arent good enough. But our bigger priorities for starting players are GK, CF, CB, LW and LB. If we move Pearson and Johnson on, id be happy with one addition in MF. I think evolution not another summer of Slash and Burn in order. I don't think Cundle does Would add Sidebe to the first team squad DJ and probably Pearson to go Keep JT Leaves, Burger, Baker, Laurent, JT and Sidebe with Junho playing more games at inside forward that's the right number I think Don't think we will keep Haks Are you genuinely happy with them as the midfield options? Burger is the only one who should be starting regularly really. We have to sign another central midfielder.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 9, 2024 11:35:57 GMT
You seem to expect us to sign premiership ready players for every position. I would agree Burger is the standout player, and another of the same quality who could compleiment would be very nice. But that doesnt mean Baker and Laurent arent good enough. But our bigger priorities for starting players are GK, CF, CB, LW and LB. If we move Pearson and Johnson on, id be happy with one addition in MF. I think evolution not another summer of Slash and Burn in order. Are you genuinely happy with them as the midfield options? Burger is the only one who should be starting regularly really. We have to sign another central midfielder. Do I? Ones that won’t get us into another relegation battle will do. Both Baker and Laurent should be squad players. Laurent imo should be sold. We have lots of priorities. We need 6 starters for me. GK CB CB LB CM LW And I want another striker but do like Mmaee. Burger is the only consistent central midfielder we have. That’s not ok.
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Post by Stokester on Apr 21, 2024 10:29:36 GMT
Even better case for Thompson after yesterday and the last few games, let’s hope something is already done and we were just waiting for survival to confirm it.
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Post by wilcopotter on Apr 21, 2024 11:26:46 GMT
Both playing well recently towards the end of their contracts (surprise,surprise), Thompson would keep , Stevens 34 in July and injured a lot over last couple of seasons, wouldn’t take the gamble. All this depends on the aspirations of board and management for next season. If play offs, then only Thompson.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 21, 2024 11:37:26 GMT
Both playing well recently towards the end of their contracts (surprise,surprise), Thompson would keep , Stevens 34 in July and injured a lot over last couple of seasons, wouldn’t take the gamble. All this depends on the aspirations of board and management for next season. If play offs, then only Thompson. We are likely ot move on pr lose ar least six Wesley , Johnson , Haks , Baker , McNally , ( Campbell ?) the lesson of last summer is evolution not mad revoltion there os going. To be plenty enjoy change and these tow are good pros and valuable team members of our best eleven right now id expect 3 years for Thompson and one for Steven’s and rightly so .
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Post by robstokie on Apr 21, 2024 11:37:46 GMT
Think Thompson is definitely one we should keep - not necessarily a guaranteed starter but a solid performer, versatile and seems to have the minerals ("Stoke DNA" as Jonny Walters/Schumi would put it, similar to Gooch) that a lot of our current squad lack.
As for Stevens, yes, he's played well recently, but is a crock who's on the wane, so it's a no from me.
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Post by thepottypotter on Apr 21, 2024 14:57:05 GMT
Thompson yes
Stevens - dubious as he is getting old and can’t start much. Depends on if we get a new LB in the summer, def no more than 12 months if we don’t get anyone else in
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Post by jokker on Apr 21, 2024 15:01:08 GMT
Are you genuinely happy with them as the midfield options? Burger is the only one who should be starting regularly really. We have to sign another central midfielder. I'd be happier if Pearson could turn things round but presume that won't happen Burger, Baker, Bae should be at the very least as good as any other midfield 3 outside the parachute payment clubs Don’t know what budget we will have but money to be spent on striker* (2 if Mmaee leaves), quality left wing (allowing Bae to move inside 2 left backs, 2 CB's, Goalkeeper Plenty to do, central midfield is bottom of the the priority list *this is the key one someone who can get into the area and score minimum 10 goals and more like 15 eons since we've had one Where would Pearson go to? No one can afford to pay his wages and to take on a contract that still runs another three years on his terms. Unless of course SCFC agree to pay 99% of his wages while he plays for another club. This has been known to happen, crazy as it sounds.
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Post by stantheman on Apr 21, 2024 17:14:22 GMT
Liked the way Shuey said yesterday - Jordan Thompson puts out a lot of fires.
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Post by lordb on Apr 21, 2024 17:51:30 GMT
I'd be happier if Pearson could turn things round but presume that won't happen Burger, Baker, Bae should be at the very least as good as any other midfield 3 outside the parachute payment clubs Don’t know what budget we will have but money to be spent on striker* (2 if Mmaee leaves), quality left wing (allowing Bae to move inside 2 left backs, 2 CB's, Goalkeeper Plenty to do, central midfield is bottom of the the priority list *this is the key one someone who can get into the area and score minimum 10 goals and more like 15 eons since we've had one Where would Pearson go to? No one can afford to pay his wages and to take on a contract that still runs another three years on his terms. Unless of course SCFC agree to pay 99% of his wages while he plays for another club. This has been known to happen, crazy as it sounds. Wherever Alex Neil ends up There was interest in January but not at fee we asked for if we want rid we drop the price
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Post by wakeypotter on Apr 21, 2024 20:22:30 GMT
Only keep Thompson if we don’t find a replacement, and if that happens we’ll have arsed up a transfer window again. Tomo is a good squad player and is definitely worth a new contract in my book Won’t be on too much money either The summer is all about getting first teamers in we have a few good squad players
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Post by jokker on Apr 21, 2024 21:23:31 GMT
Where would Pearson go to? No one can afford to pay his wages and to take on a contract that still runs another three years on his terms. Unless of course SCFC agree to pay 99% of his wages while he plays for another club. This has been known to happen, crazy as it sounds. Wherever Alex Neil ends up so far that's nowhere, it could stay that for a while yet, as long as he's being paid handsomely by scfc
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Post by norters on Apr 22, 2024 11:02:21 GMT
Pearson won't be going anywhere which I'm ok with.. decent player when 100% fit..
I'd keep Thompson given that Laurent will almost certainly move on and Baker doesn't look like he fits the Manager's bill..
Would love to see us bring in a goalscoring midfielder like Szmodics or O'Hare but they are like hen's teeth.. don't know enough about the lower or foreign leagues to suggest others.. but that's why we employ Dublin..
I think Enda Stevens has made a big difference recently.. particularly great games at Hull and yesterday when up against tricky opposition.. unfortunately his age and his fitness are against him for another year.. shame because I really liked his commitment.. just wish some would rub off on others..!!
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Post by wakeypotter on Apr 22, 2024 11:05:30 GMT
Pearson won't be going anywhere which I'm ok with.. decent player when 100% fit.. I'd keep Thompson given that Laurent will almost certainly move on and Baker doesn't look like he fits the Manager's bill.. Would love to see us bring in a goalscoring midfielder like Szmodics or O'Hare but they are like hen's teeth.. don't know enough about the lower or foreign leagues to suggest others.. but that's why we employ Dublin.. I think Enda Stevens has made a big difference recently.. particularly great games at Hull and yesterday when up against tricky opposition.. unfortunately his age and his fitness are against him for another year.. shame because I really liked his commitment.. just wish some would rub off on others..!! N Why will Laurent almost certainly move on? Have I missed something
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Post by Roy Cropper on Apr 22, 2024 11:22:29 GMT
Thompson is criminally underrated by the majority of the fan base IMO. As someone who is on cheap wages and acts as adequate to good cover for both LB and CDM - he's absolutely worth a squad place.
There are certainly bigger issues in the squad than JT.
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Post by lordb on Apr 22, 2024 11:45:24 GMT
Wherever Alex Neil ends up so far that's nowhere, it could stay that for a while yet, as long as he's being paid handsomely by scfc As I said there was interest it was the fee that put clubs off not his wages
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Post by norters on Apr 22, 2024 11:48:27 GMT
Pearson won't be going anywhere which I'm ok with.. decent player when 100% fit.. I'd keep Thompson given that Laurent will almost certainly move on and Baker doesn't look like he fits the Manager's bill.. Would love to see us bring in a goalscoring midfielder like Szmodics or O'Hare but they are like hen's teeth.. don't know enough about the lower or foreign leagues to suggest others.. but that's why we employ Dublin.. I think Enda Stevens has made a big difference recently.. particularly great games at Hull and yesterday when up against tricky opposition.. unfortunately his age and his fitness are against him for another year.. shame because I really liked his commitment.. just wish some would rub off on others..!! N Why will Laurent almost certainly move on? Have I missed something
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Post by norters on Apr 22, 2024 11:49:47 GMT
It's likely because he has a wife and a couple of very young kids based in London..
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