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Post by mickeythemaestro on Mar 30, 2024 19:16:59 GMT
Vastly improved footballer and an excellent squad player. He’s also the lowest earner of all the first team squad members at £220,000pa (£4,231 pw), barely a living wage! How on earth does he survive? Short career though. At this level they deserve all they can get if you ask me. Compared to some premier league players who trouser 100k a week for doing the square root of feck all...
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Post by roylandstoke on Mar 30, 2024 19:20:10 GMT
If Stevens would accept the money Thompson’s on I’d keep him.
On his reported wage of £20,000 per I’d fuck him off as soon as possible. His injury record over the past few years makes Nick Powell seem robust.
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Mar 30, 2024 19:35:04 GMT
No room for sentiment. Only sign players for starting 11. Squad players should be those chomping at the bit to start fighting for starting 11. Having so many "squad" players is one of our issues I'd describe Thompson as a utility player - if everyone is fit you probably wouldn't play him but his versatility makes him useful in the squad. You don't want a squad full of utility players but having one or two is useful. Personally I think Stevens is good enough to challenge for a first team spot on merit. The only issue for me is his injury record but for a year I'd take that chance providing we get someone who can also challenge for the first 11 slot. You are prob right however right now "squad players" Thcamedeu Clarke Laurent Baker Lewis Hadjavanovic Vidigal Thompson Brazilian guy Campbell Preston guy Probably a whole bunch more. None of this lot yiu wany in your starting 11 all sucking up wages
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Post by lordb on Mar 30, 2024 19:54:36 GMT
I'd describe Thompson as a utility player - if everyone is fit you probably wouldn't play him but his versatility makes him useful in the squad. You don't want a squad full of utility players but having one or two is useful. Personally I think Stevens is good enough to challenge for a first team spot on merit. The only issue for me is his injury record but for a year I'd take that chance providing we get someone who can also challenge for the first 11 slot. You are prob right however right now "squad players" Thcamedeu Clarke Laurent Baker Lewis Hadjavanovic Vidigal Thompson Brazilian guy Campbell Preston guy Probably a whole bunch more. None of this lot yiu wany in your starting 11 all sucking up wages Baker, Laurent and Junior are not squad players
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Mar 30, 2024 22:03:28 GMT
I'd describe Thompson as a utility player - if everyone is fit you probably wouldn't play him but his versatility makes him useful in the squad. You don't want a squad full of utility players but having one or two is useful. Personally I think Stevens is good enough to challenge for a first team spot on merit. The only issue for me is his injury record but for a year I'd take that chance providing we get someone who can also challenge for the first 11 slot. You are prob right however right now "squad players" Thcamedeu Clarke Laurent Baker Lewis Hadjavanovic Vidigal Thompson Brazilian guy Campbell Preston guy Probably a whole bunch more. None of this lot yiu wany in your starting 11 all sucking up wages The point I was making is that there is a difference between a utility player (who are useful to have) and squad fillers (which aren't). I'd argue that the only utility players in that list are probably Thompson, Leris and arguably Laurent - who I'd say on his day is worth his place in the first in the first team. I'd also argue that Junior, Baker and Vidigal are not squad fillers and on form can compete for a first team spot on merit. The others I agree are squad fillers.
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Mar 30, 2024 22:50:30 GMT
You are prob right however right now "squad players" Thcamedeu Clarke Laurent Baker Lewis Hadjavanovic Vidigal Thompson Brazilian guy Campbell Preston guy Probably a whole bunch more. None of this lot yiu wany in your starting 11 all sucking up wages The point I was making is that there is a difference between a utility player (who are useful to have) and squad fillers (which aren't). I'd argue that the only utility players in that list are probably Thompson, Leris and arguably Laurent - who I'd say on his day is worth his place in the first in the first team. I'd also argue that Junior, Baker and Vidigal are not squad fillers and on form can compete for a first team spot on merit. The others I agree are squad fillers. I largely agree I don't think Vidigal is good enough Baker and Tchamedou I agree have something to offer. The rest though really apart from adding numbers to the squad I dont see as being an asset in anyway.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 30, 2024 22:59:59 GMT
oh dear ... agenda again? had a good win this weekend , so no one to put the boot into ? I know i shouldn't bite, but its all a bit pathetic isn't it. Agenda - I don’t like shit footballers who don’t improve the first XI and that we can do better than on the bench. Thompson is league one standard. So is your agenda to see us there?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 30, 2024 23:01:32 GMT
No room for sentiment. Only sign players for starting 11. Squad players should be those chomping at the bit to start fighting for starting 11. Having so many "squad" players is one of our issues I'd describe Thompson as a utility player - if everyone is fit you probably wouldn't play him but his versatility makes him useful in the squad. You don't want a squad full of utility players but having one or two is useful. Personally I think Stevens is good enough to challenge for a first team spot on merit. The only issue for me is his injury record but for a year I'd take that chance providing we get someone who can also challenge for the first 11 slot. Utility? He’s an awful left back. And an ok at absolute best central midfielder. He’s ln no way a utility player.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 30, 2024 23:02:54 GMT
You are prob right however right now "squad players" Thcamedeu Clarke Laurent Baker Lewis Hadjavanovic Vidigal Thompson Brazilian guy Campbell Preston guy Probably a whole bunch more. None of this lot yiu wany in your starting 11 all sucking up wages Baker, Laurent and Junior are not squad players Baker should be. Laurent should be fucked off at the first chance. Junior should be playing but needs genuine competition.
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Post by stantheman on Mar 30, 2024 23:04:22 GMT
It's really quite sad when someone posts 2 x consecutive posts, because they have to hit a daily quota of bile....
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 30, 2024 23:06:19 GMT
It's really quite sad when someone posts 2 x consecutive posts, because they have to hit a daily quota of bile.... 3….. And what’s even sadder is just commenting about that like an obsessed weirdo🤣
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Post by blackpoolred on Mar 30, 2024 23:09:46 GMT
Stevens - well into his thirties, hardly played a game in 2 years prior to coming here, played well yesterday, but has been average in other games and is injury prone, needs to be moved on and we need a better backup L/B than him - although I think I am dreaming a bit there - do we do backup in defensive positions - he was bizarrely our only L/B in which we pinned all hopes, if by keeping him we are thinking we don't need another L/B then he definitely has to go and we need a massive upgrade.
Thompson - was a regular substitute for a tier 3 team when we bought him, but has improved since being here and become a decent and versatile player - would not complain if we upgraded though, we need to add quality if we are not wanting to be in a bottom of the table battle each year.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 30, 2024 23:15:02 GMT
And this versatility thing and how much bullshit it is.
Gooch is your versatile full back who covers either side and is better than Thompson at left back.
You don’t need another one.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Mar 30, 2024 23:29:21 GMT
Be nice to finally sign a left back in the summer and have a bona fide back up like Stevens as back up,so I'd give him another year. Thompson deserves another 2 year contract.
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Mar 30, 2024 23:30:21 GMT
And this versatility thing and how much bullshit it is. Gooch is your versatile full back who covers either side and is better than Thompson at left back. You don’t need another one. Anyone not deemed first 11 unless they are youth and developing are a waste of our time and money. We don't need a squad of utility men. 1 is fine to cover holes, we don't need Leris Laurent Johnshon Gooch Clarke Thompson Haddsnovic All doing jobs as bits and pieces squad/utility men
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 30, 2024 23:33:59 GMT
And this versatility thing and how much bullshit it is. Gooch is your versatile full back who covers either side and is better than Thompson at left back. You don’t need another one. Anyone not deemed first 11 unless they are youth and developing are a waste of our time and money. We don't need a squad of utility men. 1 is fine to cover holes, we don't need Leris Laurent Johnshon Gooch Clarke Thompson Haddsnovic All doing jobs as bits and pieces squad/utility men I’d only keep Gooch of that lot. And even then I wouldn’t be arsed in the slightest if he went. Leris gets a way too easy ride.
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Post by independent on Mar 30, 2024 23:39:08 GMT
Sounds like a lot of you want to repeat what we did last year.That is, get rid of our players and replace them with inferior ones. How many signings are we going to need, before we start to count the players that we would like to replace.Out of the two players mentioned, If the wages are as listed, it is a no brainer to let Stevens go and keep Thompson. Surely the wages saved on Stevens and Gayle would help us to sign and pay a proper striker, which we desperately need.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Mar 30, 2024 23:43:47 GMT
Sounds like a lot of you want to repeat what we did last year.That is, get rid of our players and replace them with inferior ones. How many signings are we going to need, before we start to count the players that we would like to replace.Out of the two players mentioned, If the wages are as listed, it is a no brainer to let Stevens go and keep Thompson. Surely the wages saved on Stevens and Gayle would help us to sign and pay a proper striker, which we desperately need. Whether the earlier rumour re Stevens' wages are true or not,he's out of contract in the summer so it will be on different terms.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 30, 2024 23:45:25 GMT
Sounds like a lot of you want to repeat what we did last year.That is, get rid of our players and replace them with inferior ones. How many signings are we going to need, before we start to count the players that we would like to replace.Out of the two players mentioned, If the wages are as listed, it is a no brainer to let Stevens go and keep Thompson. Surely the wages saved on Stevens and Gayle would help us to sign and pay a proper striker, which we desperately need. No. I want us to sign better ones like we did with Burger. We need another overhaul, that’s clear to see and keeping a squad player that isn’t versatile makes no sense. Realistically this is what we need: GK Junior CB CB LB Burger CM Junho Manhoef Mmaee LW Bonham Rose Gooch Baker Winger Ennis Striker
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Post by stokesaint1 on Mar 30, 2024 23:47:18 GMT
I haven't studied the list of out of contract players but just to remind everyone that this squad of players have been responsible for yet another awful season to date and regarding new contracts, I would absolutely not consider any of the out of contract players or resigning loan players until after the season finishes and then look very seriously as to whether any of them has the commitment, skills and drive to make us into a top 6 team next season.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 30, 2024 23:49:02 GMT
I haven't studied the list of out of contract players but just to remind everyone that this squad of players have been responsible for yet another awful season to date and regarding new contracts, I would absolutely not consider any of the out of contract players or resigning loan players until after the season finishes and then look very seriously as to whether any of them has the commitment, skills and drive to make us into a top 6 team next season. Spot on. But we won so everyone stays. When…I mean if we lose to Huddersfield then everyone will want rid of them all. It’s hilarious.
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Post by wilcopotter on Mar 30, 2024 23:54:16 GMT
I’d fuck Stevens off. Stephen Ward Mk 2. We need a dependable fit for purpose Championship LB.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Mar 30, 2024 23:54:24 GMT
Vastly improved footballer and an excellent squad player. He’s also the lowest earner of all the first team squad members at £220,000pa (£4,231 pw), barely a living wage! How on earth does he survive? That should just cover the heating bills.... Good job for him we're heading into the summer and he doesn't need to put the heating on!!! 😏
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 30, 2024 23:58:09 GMT
I’d fuck Stevens off. Stephen Ward Mk 2. We need a dependable fit for purpose Championship LB. He’s way better than Ward but never ever should have been first choice. As a back up he’s more than fine. And if the manager wanted to play a back 3 he’d be good for LCB. Way more versatile than Thompson.
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Post by independent on Mar 30, 2024 23:59:49 GMT
Sounds like a lot of you want to repeat what we did last year.That is, get rid of our players and replace them with inferior ones. How many signings are we going to need, before we start to count the players that we would like to replace.Out of the two players mentioned, If the wages are as listed, it is a no brainer to let Stevens go and keep Thompson. Surely the wages saved on Stevens and Gayle would help us to sign and pay a proper striker, which we desperately need. No. I want us to sign better ones like we did with Burger. We need another overhaul, that’s clear to see and keeping a squad player that isn’t versatile makes no sense. Realistically this is what we need: GK Junior CB CB LB Burger CM Junho Manhoef Mmaee LW Bonham Rose Gooch Baker Winger Ennis Striker So you reckon that we need to sign at least 8 players, to make up a squad of 18 players. I think that we'll need at least 23/24 players, so we are going to have to keep more players or sign more. Do you really think that we are capable of signing another 14 better players this year? and mould them into a team quickly.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 31, 2024 0:02:09 GMT
No. I want us to sign better ones like we did with Burger. We need another overhaul, that’s clear to see and keeping a squad player that isn’t versatile makes no sense. Realistically this is what we need: GK Junior CB CB LB Burger CM Junho Manhoef Mmaee LW Bonham Rose Gooch Baker Winger Ennis Striker So you reckon that we need to sign at least 8 players, to make up a squad of 18 players. I think that we'll need at least 23/24 players, so we are going to have to keep more players or sign more. Do you really think that we are capable of signing another 14 better players this year? I think we can sign better than Jordan Thompson absolutely. I think Dublin did a good job overall too. And I’m not quite sure why people don’t want an overhaul with how shit they’ve been? There’s only Burger and Junho I’d be sad to see leave. The rest? Whatever.
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Post by wilcopotter on Mar 31, 2024 0:07:50 GMT
I’d fuck Stevens off. Stephen Ward Mk 2. We need a dependable fit for purpose Championship LB. He’s way better than Ward but never ever should have been first choice. As a back up he’s more than fine. And if the manager wanted to play a back 3 he’d be good for LCB. Way more versatile than Thompson. Stevens is meh- fuck him off. Better than Thompson, not difficult really, 2 goals and one assist, he needs to go back to League one.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 31, 2024 0:10:11 GMT
He’s way better than Ward but never ever should have been first choice. As a back up he’s more than fine. And if the manager wanted to play a back 3 he’d be good for LCB. Way more versatile than Thompson. Stevens is meh- fuck him off. Better than Thompson, not difficult really, 2 goals and one assist, he needs to go back to League one. He is meh for sure and we should absolutely be getting rid of both.
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Post by independent on Mar 31, 2024 0:17:48 GMT
So you reckon that we need to sign at least 8 players, to make up a squad of 18 players. I think that we'll need at least 23/24 players, so we are going to have to keep more players or sign more. Do you really think that we are capable of signing another 14 better players this year? I think we can sign better than Jordan Thompson absolutely. I think Dublin did a good job overall too. And I’m not quite sure why people don’t want an overhaul with how shit they’ve been? There’s only Burger and Junho I’d be sad to see leave. The rest? Whatever. So you think that we can sign 14 better players for next year and make a team out of them? If you think Dublin did a good job, then why do you want to keep only 2 out ot the 18 or 20 players that he signed. On that basis we would need to sign at least 120 players to get 14 that we were happy with. Do you think that we can do this?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 31, 2024 0:23:45 GMT
I think we can sign better than Jordan Thompson absolutely. I think Dublin did a good job overall too. And I’m not quite sure why people don’t want an overhaul with how shit they’ve been? There’s only Burger and Junho I’d be sad to see leave. The rest? Whatever. So you think that we can sign 14 better players for next year and make a team out of them? If you think Dublin did a good job, then why do you want to keep only 2 out ot the 18 or 20 players that he signed. On that basis we would need to sign at least 120 players to get 14 that we were happy with. Do you think that we can do this? I think that’s better than keeping the likes of Laurent and Thompson yes. I didn’t say they’re the only two I want to keep. The keep list is made up only of players signed by him (plus Baker) though. Iversen Junior Burger Baker Manhoef Junho Mmaee And I’d add Vidigal in there too tbh. I think he’s been poorly handled. So yes I think we could sign another 6/7 we need for the first team and bench yes.
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