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Post by samdan on Mar 31, 2024 19:00:25 GMT
How on earth does he survive? For a professional career that at best is over by your mid-thirties, it’s really not much. I never understand this argument. Even at 35 it’s not like they are too old to get another job. £200k a year invested correctly would mean he can have a nice house mortgage free and get a job he enjoys for the next 35 years. What gives sportsmen the right to expect to work until their 30s and then play golf for the rest of their life?
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Post by lordb on Mar 31, 2024 19:09:13 GMT
I would say the same re Pearson. Kind of player we need but not him. I think is clear that we'd shift him if we could but think we're lumbered with him Can’t see anyone taking Pearson on. Pearson clearly doesn’t want to be here and can fuck off though. Metaphorically of course 🤣 At the right price, ie less than we were asking for in January, yes
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 31, 2024 19:26:24 GMT
Can’t see anyone taking Pearson on. Pearson clearly doesn’t want to be here and can fuck off though. Metaphorically of course 🤣 At the right price, ie less than we were asking for in January, yes He’d be mad to leave though? He’s on a massive contract and will just sit on that. I would. And we’d need like 1.5m for ffp wouldn’t we? None of it seems realistic. A loan away covering part of his wages would be about the best bet?
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Post by Gary Hackett on Mar 31, 2024 19:29:20 GMT
Thompson as a squad player yes.
As long as we sign a decent younger left back then I wouldn't have a problem with Stevens on a 1 year deal as long as the medical team are happy he's not going to break down every other week.
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Post by idle on Mar 31, 2024 20:10:21 GMT
Thompson deserves to be offered a contract. Never complained, never any fuss, just gets on with his job. Even if the output is below average, a squad needs backup players who don't fuck up too much and can fill several positions.
I think Stevens is a gamble, but as others have said a 1y deal at half his current wages (preferably some of it performance based) would be ok, as long as we bring in a proper first choice left back.
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Post by nottsover60 on Mar 31, 2024 20:19:04 GMT
I very much doubt you could sign better than Thompson for the money he is on For 4/5k a week there will be better players for sure. You do realise that at the top clubs a player's first professional contract is worth more than that? Where do you think you can find better players than Thompson on £4/5k a week. He is the lowest paid member of our first team squad, will possibly want more to stay but I doubt we will find a better player on his current salary.
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Post by apb1 on Mar 31, 2024 20:21:34 GMT
Can we not just get a couple of Koreans to join Bae?
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Post by headsgoup on Apr 1, 2024 13:27:11 GMT
Thompson yes, Stevens no.
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Post by foster on Apr 1, 2024 14:41:09 GMT
For 4/5k a week there will be better players for sure. You do realise that at the top clubs a player's first professional contract is worth more than that? Where do you think you can find better players than Thompson on £4/5k a week. He is the lowest paid member of our first team squad, will possibly want more to stay but I doubt we will find a better player on his current salary. The link below is probably bullshit...but where did you get the salaries for the players? Im happy to give Thompson another contract as he's a good egg, but i also think 4/5k per week for a better player from abroad isn't too much of a challenge. salarysport.com/football/championship/stoke-city/
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Post by tejstokie on Apr 1, 2024 15:22:52 GMT
I really like Thompson's graft. Excellent squad player and fully deserves another contract extension if he's due.
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Post by a on Apr 1, 2024 15:56:04 GMT
If they’re paying us
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Post by potter7green on Apr 1, 2024 16:05:30 GMT
No chance after today Need better than Thompson.
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Post by nottsover60 on Apr 1, 2024 18:32:48 GMT
You do realise that at the top clubs a player's first professional contract is worth more than that? Where do you think you can find better players than Thompson on £4/5k a week. He is the lowest paid member of our first team squad, will possibly want more to stay but I doubt we will find a better player on his current salary. The link below is probably bullshit...but where did you get the salaries for the players? Im happy to give Thompson another contract as he's a good egg, but i also think 4/5k per week for a better player from abroad isn't too much of a challenge. salarysport.com/football/championship/stoke-city/ www.capology.com/club/stoke-city/salaries/It does put up the disclaimer that they are estimates.
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Post by cheadlepotter on Apr 1, 2024 18:36:35 GMT
Stevens - no, he’d be fine at back up LB if he was fit for most of the season but he isn’t
Thompson - not arsed. Whilst I’m mindful that back-up options for an established bottom half Championship side are never going to be brilliant, I don’t think he’s very good. A below par CM and a woeful LB.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 1, 2024 19:04:41 GMT
No chance after today Need better than Thompson. Best stoke player for me I’m not sure what your seeing .
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Post by idle on Apr 1, 2024 20:39:21 GMT
My god those are some eye opening numbers. Wage doesn't follow ability, that's for sure. Thompson on less than Frank fucking Fielding, you couldn't make this up! Pearson is at way less than I thought, and Johnson and Wilmot on way more. Wesley and Clark is just lunacy, and shows how desperate AN was. Also Mmaee and Burger makes way less than I would have thought. And Bae moving around the world for £5k/wk, while Jojic makes 40% more!
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Post by questionable on Apr 1, 2024 20:43:11 GMT
Thompson without a doubt, far better all round player than Baker & Laurent
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Post by StatesideStokie on Apr 6, 2024 3:05:33 GMT
For a professional career that at best is over by your mid-thirties, it’s really not much. I never understand this argument. Even at 35 it’s not like they are too old to get another job. £200k a year invested correctly would mean he can have a nice house mortgage free and get a job he enjoys for the next 35 years. What gives sportsmen the right to expect to work until their 30s and then play golf for the rest of their life? Market value. Would you do your job for a fraction of what your market value is? He’s made it to a professional level in an industry that a tiny fraction of the population would ever get close to, and you don’t think he deserves the relatively basic pay he’s receiving? Sure, he can live comfortably on 200k a year, and pay off a decent home and invest a decent amount if he chooses to live frugally, and then go and get a regular job once he retires if he wants to maintain the same lifestyle. But let’s not pretend like he’s milking anyone with the money he’s making. It’s a relative pittance in the industry he’s working in.
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Post by Scouse on Apr 6, 2024 8:03:54 GMT
I always take such guesstimates with a massive pinch of salt .. they’re basic in the extreme at best do they include bonuses or indeed any image right payments ..which whilst in the championship maybe far more limited than say the prem , some players / coaches etc will still have them..trying to access a players gross payments never mind his bottom line seems futile and is often used by some fans to attack players they think not worthy of high payments ..or to boast to rival fans in the school yard ..look how much we pay compared to you ..bit like transfer fees paid My limited understanding is media rights can be a useful tool to save clubs & players money in tax ..equally as important whichever end of the pay scale you find yourself www.danielgeey.com/done-deal-blog/image-rights-in-uk-football-explained
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Post by stokieben28 on Apr 8, 2024 6:37:13 GMT
Thanks to Prestwich Potter on previous thread
2024
Stevens Clark Thompson Wesley Campbell Blondy Fielding
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Rose Johnson Baker Bonham Gooch Laurent McCarron Morris Tezgel
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Mmaee Ennis Leris Vidigal Wilmot Sidibe
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Pearson Burger Jojic Tchamadeu Bae Junho Manhoef
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Lowe
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Post by figo85 on Apr 8, 2024 6:48:06 GMT
I wouldn’t offer Thompson a set of Merlin sticker swaps, let alone a contract. He’s awful in every area and he moans his bag off.
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Post by emretezzy on Apr 8, 2024 7:57:25 GMT
I wouldn’t offer Thompson a set of Merlin sticker swaps, let alone a contract. He’s awful in every area and he moans his bag off. It would be interesting to hear a full breakdown of how the club caters to its blind fans. Apparently the experience has vastly improved.
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Post by gingerninja on Apr 8, 2024 8:01:54 GMT
Thompson is a no brainer, offers cover in a number of positions, would not be overly expensive and rarely let's the side down, wheres our captain strolls around without breaking a sweat and not tracking runners🤔
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Post by mallorcanstokie on Apr 8, 2024 8:17:33 GMT
I wouldn’t offer Thompson a set of Merlin sticker swaps, let alone a contract. He’s awful in every area and he moans his bag off. It would be interesting to hear a full breakdown of how the club caters to its blind fans. Apparently the experience has vastly improved. Credit to Merlin sticker company as they must produce braille version of their stickers ….
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Post by Veritas on Apr 8, 2024 8:18:45 GMT
Thompson is a no brainer, offers cover in a number of positions, would not be overly expensive and rarely let's the side down, wheres our captain strolls around without breaking a sweat and not tracking runners🤔 I think Stevens is also worth another year, but obviously not as the only left back like this year!
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Post by dirtygary69 on Apr 8, 2024 8:20:36 GMT
I'd definitely be looking at renewing Thompson's contract but he might fancy something elsewhere where he's guaranteed more minutes. That said, he's been involved loads this season and, for me, he's in the top 5 performers overall - maybe even pushing top 3 depending on the last few games. He's impressed me this year.
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Post by pez75 on Apr 8, 2024 8:33:43 GMT
Thompson is a no brainer, offers cover in a number of positions, would not be overly expensive and rarely let's the side down, wheres our captain strolls around without breaking a sweat and not tracking runners🤔 What positions? He is a very very limited midfielder who due to the fact that he is one of a few players at the club with a left foot has 'covered' at LB, and not very well on the whole. The 'rarely lets the side down' cliche doesnt wash either, what about the time he got sent off for being a bellend? Mainly though, he has been a large part of a terrible underperforming squad for a few seasons now, the message is clear - we need better.
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Post by clintonbaptiste on Apr 8, 2024 8:45:29 GMT
Thompson is worth a renewal but I really can't see the popint with Stevens given jis injury record, its dead money.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Apr 8, 2024 8:53:21 GMT
Thompson is a no brainer, offers cover in a number of positions, would not be overly expensive and rarely let's the side down, wheres our captain strolls around without breaking a sweat and not tracking runners🤔 What positions? He is a very very limited midfielder who due to the fact that he is one of a few players at the club with a left foot has 'covered' at LB, and not very well on the whole. The 'rarely lets the side down' cliche doesnt wash either, what about the time he got sent off for being a bellend? Mainly though, he has been a large part of a terrible underperforming squad for a few seasons now, the message is clear - we need better. player gets sent off once shocker!
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Post by knype on Apr 8, 2024 8:55:49 GMT
Thompson is a no brainer, offers cover in a number of positions, would not be overly expensive and rarely let's the side down, wheres our captain strolls around without breaking a sweat and not tracking runners🤔 What positions? He is a very very limited midfielder who due to the fact that he is one of a few players at the club with a left foot has 'covered' at LB, and not very well on the whole. The 'rarely lets the side down' cliche doesnt wash either, what about the time he got sent off for being a bellend? Mainly though, he has been a large part of a terrible underperforming squad for a few seasons now, the message is clear - we need better. I agree with all of this, if we want to get better, Thompson has to be moved on
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