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Post by suck_the_mop. on Mar 6, 2024 14:03:29 GMT
I welcome the start of safe standing, which alot of stoke fans have wanted. Personally I would keep seats in the new corner location for the away fans and creat 2 safe standing areas at the back of the south stand and boothen end purely for home fans.. If we ever get back to the Premier with big away followings we could end up with all the south stand and corner being away fans with safe standing while the whole of the home stands would still be all seaters. Can't do that as away fans have to have the same facilities i.e safe standing if home fans have it, and the club will only allow 2.800 2.900 max for away followings so the corner and 36/37 covers that only time this won't happen is big cup games when they are entitled to more so could have the whole end fa regulation.
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Post by Glory Hunter on Mar 6, 2024 14:53:40 GMT
yes received the email just i believe that they are moving away fans into the new corner and home fans will now surround the tunnel it appears my seat will have to move from block 36.... fuck sake If it’s the best thing for the club, suck it up.
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Post by Los Alfareros on Mar 6, 2024 15:00:03 GMT
We have been saying for years that away fans should not be next to the tunnel. I think the majority of us would welcome safe standing (people can still sit if they want). So well done Stoke.
My only grump is that it is years too late!! Oh, and it definitely secures our relegation, just like when we filled the fucking corner in.....
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Post by mickstupp on Mar 6, 2024 15:12:14 GMT
I welcome the start of safe standing, which alot of stoke fans have wanted. Personally I would keep seats in the new corner location for the away fans and creat 2 safe standing areas at the back of the south stand and boothen end purely for home fans.. If we ever get back to the Premier with big away followings we could end up with all the south stand and corner being away fans with safe standing while the whole of the home stands would still be all seaters. If we ever get back into the PL, there is not a chance in hell away supporters will get the whole of the south stand and the corner. Why would we do that when we will easily be able to sell those seats to home supporters?
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Post by clintonbaptiste on Mar 6, 2024 15:19:11 GMT
I welcome the start of safe standing, which alot of stoke fans have wanted. Personally I would keep seats in the new corner location for the away fans and creat 2 safe standing areas at the back of the south stand and boothen end purely for home fans.. If we ever get back to the Premier with big away followings we could end up with all the south stand and corner being away fans with safe standing while the whole of the home stands would still be all seaters. If we ever get back into the PL there is not a chance in hell away supporters will get the whole of the south stand and the corner. Why would we do that when we will easily be able to sell those seats to home supporters? Big FA Cup and League Cup games should the visiting team ask for a big allocatyion. They'd get the traditional away end of 4800 and we'd get the corner, thats how I'm understanding it. All league games (no matter what league) the away end will be the corner.
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 6, 2024 15:42:42 GMT
I welcome the start of safe standing, which alot of stoke fans have wanted. Personally I would keep seats in the new corner location for the away fans and creat 2 safe standing areas at the back of the south stand and boothen end purely for home fans.. If we ever get back to the Premier with big away followings we could end up with all the south stand and corner being away fans with safe standing while the whole of the home stands would still be all seaters. No visiting PL team ever had anywhere close to the whole of the South stand. We only ever gave the minimum allocation (then about 2800), like all Prem clubs do because they almost all sell out every week anyway. And by no means all teams even brought that many. I don't know if followings in the Champo are much smaller on average? Certainly they can potentially be bigger because we'd be more inclined to increase allocation without depriving our own fans of seats (or rails)
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Mar 6, 2024 16:04:43 GMT
If we ever get back into the PL there is not a chance in hell away supporters will get the whole of the south stand and the corner. Why would we do that when we will easily be able to sell those seats to home supporters? Big FA Cup and League Cup games should the visiting team ask for a big allocatyion. They'd get the traditional away end of 4800 and we'd get the corner, thats how I'm understanding it. All league games (no matter what league) the away end will be the corner. Plus blocks 36/37 which makes up to about 2800/900 that's why we've got to move out of 36/37.
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Post by mickstupp on Mar 6, 2024 16:12:13 GMT
Presumably there’s going to be some access and segregation realignment work over the summer? Externally, I imagine there will be some kind of barrier or fencing going up in the walkway outside block 33/34, and also behind the south stand where the away coaches park up.
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Mar 6, 2024 17:34:03 GMT
Presumably there’s going to be some access and segregation realignment work over the summer? Externally, I imagine there will be some kind of barrier or fencing going up in the walkway outside block 33/34, and also behind the south stand where the away coaches park up. Yes pretty sure there was markings on the tarmac outside on Saturday when i walked past wondering what they were for makes sense now.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Mar 6, 2024 19:04:32 GMT
Can't wait for this as I've been wanting safe standing for a long time. Well done Stoke.
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Post by lordb on Mar 6, 2024 19:20:52 GMT
Long term the club should build new dressing rooms and a new tunnel in the corner between the Boothen and the main stand
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Post by clintonbaptiste on Mar 6, 2024 19:31:55 GMT
Presumably there’s going to be some access and segregation realignment work over the summer? Externally, I imagine there will be some kind of barrier or fencing going up in the walkway outside block 33/34, and also behind the south stand where the away coaches park up. Also the concourse. I’m guessing a wall will have to go up between the family stand and new away end concourse.
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Mar 6, 2024 19:35:46 GMT
Presumably there’s going to be some access and segregation realignment work over the summer? Externally, I imagine there will be some kind of barrier or fencing going up in the walkway outside block 33/34, and also behind the south stand where the away coaches park up. Also the concourse. I’m guessing a wall will have to go up between the family stand and new away end concourse. Will put them gate/doors in like they got to separate us from away fans now but can be opened if same fans are using it i.e cup games.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 6, 2024 19:45:13 GMT
I welcome the start of safe standing, which alot of stoke fans have wanted. Personally I would keep seats in the new corner location for the away fans and creat 2 safe standing areas at the back of the south stand and boothen end purely for home fans.. If we ever get back to the Premier with big away followings we could end up with all the south stand and corner being away fans with safe standing while the whole of the home stands would still be all seaters. If we ever get back into the PL, there is not a chance in hell away supporters will get the whole of the south stand and the corner. Why would we do that when we will easily be able to sell those seats to home supporters? But they would need more than the corner. So less safe standing area for home fans however you look at it..
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Mar 6, 2024 19:53:59 GMT
If we ever get back into the PL, there is not a chance in hell away supporters will get the whole of the south stand and the corner. Why would we do that when we will easily be able to sell those seats to home supporters? But they would need more than the corner. So less safe standing area for home fans however you look at it.. Yes the corner and what is now block 36/37 around 2900 which is what they get now, home fans will have the rest of the south stand so not losing anything all our safe standing will be in the south stand look at the diagram on the club website, it goes all the way across.
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Post by bolders on Mar 7, 2024 19:05:09 GMT
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Post by mickstupp on Mar 7, 2024 19:26:15 GMT
I guess the club has had to dream something up to generate a bit of season card interest.
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Post by nott1 on Mar 8, 2024 9:49:24 GMT
I sat in the new corner against Brum and was shocked at how bad the seating was I had to sit sideways, the away fans are welcome to them. The facilities were very good tho They will charge us the same (or maybe more, season ticket prices not announced yet) for lesser facilities/view and experience The club can suck a dick Should charge double for all the cost of new rails etc. so there!
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Mar 8, 2024 21:14:26 GMT
I welcome the start of safe standing, which alot of stoke fans have wanted. Personally I would keep seats in the new corner location for the away fans and creat 2 safe standing areas at the back of the south stand and boothen end purely for home fans.. If we ever get back to the Premier with big away followings we could end up with all the south stand and corner being away fans with safe standing while the whole of the home stands would still be all seaters. Can't do that as away fans have to have the same facilities i.e safe standing if home fans have it, and the club will only allow 2.800 2.900 max for away followings so the corner and 36/37 covers that only time this won't happen is big cup games when they are entitled to more so could have the whole end fa regulation. That's not strictly correct. The club can't charge away fans more than home fans for comparable accommodation but there is no requirement to provide safe standing for away fans if it's provided for home fans. That said, it makes sense to do so because away fans of all clubs contain a higher proportion of fans who want to stand. I encourage everyone who supports the idea to take a few minutes to respond to the Club survey just to give them the evidence just in case it is challenged anywhere. I would imagine that the Club will have consulted the Safety Advisory Group and the police but you never know.
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Mar 8, 2024 21:22:44 GMT
Can't do that as away fans have to have the same facilities i.e safe standing if home fans have it, and the club will only allow 2.800 2.900 max for away followings so the corner and 36/37 covers that only time this won't happen is big cup games when they are entitled to more so could have the whole end fa regulation. That's not strictly correct. The club can't charge away fans more than home fans for comparable accommodation but there is no requirement to provide safe standing for away fans if it's provided for home fans. That said, it makes sense to do so because away fans of all clubs contain a higher proportion of fans who want to stand. I encourage everyone who supporters the idea to take a few minutes to respond to the Club survey just to give them the evidence just in case it is challenged anywhere. I would imagine that the Club will have consulted the Safety Advisory Group and the police but you never know. I stand corrected.. I have responded to both surveys the club sent out one a few months back asking about safe standing where you sat and if you would move if it became available, and the one the other day with my email about me moving out of block 36.
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Post by spoton on Mar 8, 2024 21:35:22 GMT
Surely the simplest way to ensure that the home fans are always around the tunnel would be to move the away fans to the corner of the Boothen end, this also would help the police to keep the away fans in the stadium at the end and away from any possible trouble wherever fans cross each other make safe standing behind the both goals
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Post by spoton on Mar 8, 2024 21:39:17 GMT
Other way just build new changing room and tunnel in the open corner, and safe standing behind both goals problem solved
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Post by banksy1art on Mar 8, 2024 22:10:35 GMT
Surely the simplest way to ensure that the home fans are always around the tunnel would be to move the away fans to the corner of the Boothen end, this also would help the police to keep the away fans in the stadium at the end and away from any possible trouble wherever fans cross each other make safe standing behind the both goals How do you think that would work? Do you really think we could just move 3000 home fans from their long term seats. And where would the away coaches park? Put the away fans right next to Ricardo’s and the new fanzone? The club have thought it through. Fuck sake stop moaning, the decision has been made!
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Mar 8, 2024 22:17:27 GMT
Surely the simplest way to ensure that the home fans are always around the tunnel would be to move the away fans to the corner of the Boothen end, this also would help the police to keep the away fans in the stadium at the end and away from any possible trouble wherever fans cross each other make safe standing behind the both goals How do you think that would work? Do you really think we could just move 3000 home fans from their long term seats. And where would the away coaches park? Put the away fans right next to Ricardo’s and the new fanzone? The club have thought it through. Fuck sake stop moaning, the decision has been made! I'm happy with the decision mate even though I've got to move out of 36, (i was going to go wherever the standing was anyway) only disappointment is that away fans are getting the best and roomiest concourse in the corner but will see what they say at the consultation next Monday 18th.
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Post by senojbor on Mar 9, 2024 0:55:45 GMT
Best decision the club have made for a while
Our players getting a wall of sound from the away supporters coming out, well...
No wonder we lose every other home game
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