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Post by suck_the_mop. on Mar 5, 2024 23:04:00 GMT
For people saying further to walk etc, pretty sure I've see that the paths will remain the same but be split for home and away so no further to walk, also the family stand will be reduced so families are not on top of the away fans with extra facilities being introduced into block 10 of the franklyn. Lets wait until the detailed plans come out to see overall the club are being proactive and trying to minimize moving people (i am being moved by this) but i wanted standing so will just move along a bit.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Mar 6, 2024 6:55:16 GMT
Isn’t it interesting that two previous CEO’s in Moxey (original design) and Scholes ( the great pretender) who talked a good game about Supporter match day experience failed (couldn’t be bothered) with such basic principles for home supporters. Positioning of, not standing.
Con merchants the pair of them.
Well done JC, SM and his team
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Post by Ron on Mar 6, 2024 7:23:41 GMT
Should’ve been done in the boothen end. It’ll be a sparsely populated part of the ground following this.
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Post by Northy on Mar 6, 2024 9:56:11 GMT
Crap idea imo unless they fill the corner in, a section of Stoke fans will be isolated. Giving the away fans the best concourse and making it more difficult to police the away fans in and out of the ground. Stick em out of the way for me Northers in the seats designed for Darby O'Gill and the little people. I think is a good idea They are out of the way where they are now, I just think without that corner filled in it's the Stoke fans who would seem out of the way.
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Mar 6, 2024 10:36:56 GMT
Should’ve been done in the boothen end. It’ll be a sparsely populated part of the ground following this. Probably cost as got to supply same facilities for away fans (safe standing) Might be introduced at boothen at a later date.
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Post by Squeekster on Mar 6, 2024 10:52:57 GMT
N how do you know this flea? Well they won’t be lowering prices will they I would like to think they'd at least compensate the people who have to move with a free season ticket at the very least to soften the blow. PS and make sure I can still get a quick beer at half time with the pop up San Miquel bar!
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Post by flea79 on Mar 6, 2024 10:54:48 GMT
Well they won’t be lowering prices will they I would like to think they'd at least compensate the people who have to move with a free season ticket at the very least to soften the blow. they wont do that nor would i expect them too but its going to be galling having to pay the same to sit in the shit old away end with no space and all that its just window dressing to try and distract whats going on on the pitch
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Post by Squeekster on Mar 6, 2024 10:57:00 GMT
I would like to think they'd at least compensate the people who have to move with a free season ticket at the very least to soften the blow. they wont do that nor would i expect them too but its going to be galling having to pay the same to sit in the shit old away end with no space and all that its just window dressing to try and distract whats going on on the pitch I'd certainly expect something.
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Post by jm on Mar 6, 2024 10:59:39 GMT
Reading moved the away fans this season and my lad got his season ticket half price for moving
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Post by flea79 on Mar 6, 2024 11:02:08 GMT
they wont do that nor would i expect them too but its going to be galling having to pay the same to sit in the shit old away end with no space and all that its just window dressing to try and distract whats going on on the pitch I'd certainly expect something. as somebody pointed out to me last night quite correctly, its not my seat, its the clubs, they can do with it as they will once our agreement runs out at the end of a season, i just perhaps place to much value in my place that i choose to sit/stand but im comfy there in terms of my own anxiety and the routine i have and knowing the people around me even so the club can suck a dick making us move to house away fans while we have to slum it in the old away end
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Post by cheadlepotter on Mar 6, 2024 11:04:36 GMT
Reading moved the away fans this season and my lad got his season ticket half price for moving That’s brilliant but I don’t think our fans should expect anything. They’ve bought a season ticket for a seat in which they’re sitting for a season, it’s not as if they’ve paid for next season yet. It’s a shame for those that like their current seat, but there’s plenty of choice elsewhere.
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Post by thornestein on Mar 6, 2024 11:10:19 GMT
I will go along as invited on monday evening and lodge my objections to this not that it will matter or make a difference to those in charge If this had been done when we opened that corner fair enough but why let us get comfortable and happy in that area and then turf us out in an effort to appease fans for the shit served up on the pitch! Sorry about league one but hey here’s some rail seats you just can't please some people. This has been wanted for years and some are still moaning. which he’s entitled to do if it’s effecting him
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Post by thornestein on Mar 6, 2024 11:12:33 GMT
Should’ve been done in the boothen end. It’ll be a sparsely populated part of the ground following this. and piss even more ppl off making them move seats , it’s being done correctly in my view
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Post by flea79 on Mar 6, 2024 11:39:52 GMT
Should’ve been done in the boothen end. It’ll be a sparsely populated part of the ground following this. and piss even more ppl off making them move seats , it’s being done correctly in my view in fairness i would be interested in the % of occupied seats in the south stand in comparison to the boothen these days, it can look very sparse in the boothen sometimes
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Post by Squeekster on Mar 6, 2024 11:40:14 GMT
Reading moved the away fans this season and my lad got his season ticket half price for moving That’s brilliant but I don’t think our fans should expect anything. They’ve bought a season ticket for a seat in which they’re sitting for a season, it’s not as if they’ve paid for next season yet. It’s a shame for those that like their current seat, but there’s plenty of choice elsewhere. It's got to be a 2 way street hasn't it? If they say we are moving you tough shit they belong to us anyway, then they are disrespecting fans who have spent many years and money following the team and as SJW said in his battle cry we all have to stick together.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 6, 2024 12:12:22 GMT
Tickets are cheap enough and been so for years without compensating people
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Post by LGH87 on Mar 6, 2024 12:22:42 GMT
I really don't get the issue, the new corner is practically empty most of the time anyway, so can't be many of you sat there. Just go in block 26 if it's the view you'll miss, it's exactly the same just down the other end.
Yeah you're losing the nice new concourse with better facilities but let's face it, that's not the reason you go the match anyway is it.
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Post by LGH87 on Mar 6, 2024 12:24:48 GMT
That’s brilliant but I don’t think our fans should expect anything. They’ve bought a season ticket for a seat in which they’re sitting for a season, it’s not as if they’ve paid for next season yet. It’s a shame for those that like their current seat, but there’s plenty of choice elsewhere. It's got to be a 2 way street hasn't it? If they say we are moving you tough shit they belong to us anyway, then they are disrespecting fans who have spent many years and money following the team and as SJW said in his battle cry we all have to stick together. The corner's only been there six years, of which I highly doubt there's many that have been there for the full term of those 6 but they must've sat somewhere else and liked it before that. It's really not a big deal and god forbid the club try and do something positive!
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Post by Squeekster on Mar 6, 2024 12:43:22 GMT
It's got to be a 2 way street hasn't it? If they say we are moving you tough shit they belong to us anyway, then they are disrespecting fans who have spent many years and money following the team and as SJW said in his battle cry we all have to stick together. The corner's only been there six years, of which I highly doubt there's many that have been there for the full term of those 6 but they must've sat somewhere else and liked it before that. It's really not a big deal and god forbid the club try and do something positive! I sat in the Boothen since it opened then we moved so the group could sit together about 3 years ago, we chose to move and chose those seats and enjoy the view and access to the concourse, I'm not saying it isn't a positive thing, I'm just saying we should be treated with respect by the club if they force us to move.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 6, 2024 12:49:58 GMT
Should’ve been done in the boothen end. It’ll be a sparsely populated part of the ground following this. Final nail in the coffin.
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Post by LGH87 on Mar 6, 2024 12:53:51 GMT
The corner's only been there six years, of which I highly doubt there's many that have been there for the full term of those 6 but they must've sat somewhere else and liked it before that. It's really not a big deal and god forbid the club try and do something positive! I sat in the Boothen since it opened then we moved so the group could sit together about 3 years ago, we chose to move and chose those seats and enjoy the view and access to the concourse, I'm not saying it isn't a positive thing, I'm just saying we should be treated with respect by the club if they force us to move. Sit in block 26 with access to Ricardo's, job done. I'm sure there will be a sweetener ins some regards though with the hassle of being forced to move.
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Post by Not_Nick_H on Mar 6, 2024 13:01:49 GMT
I sat in the Boothen since it opened then we moved so the group could sit together about 3 years ago, we chose to move and chose those seats and enjoy the view and access to the concourse, I'm not saying it isn't a positive thing, I'm just saying we should be treated with respect by the club if they force us to move. Sit in block 26 with access to Ricardo's, job done. I'm sure there will be a sweetener ins some regards though with the hassle of being forced to move. When Liverpool expanded their main stand, they gave season ticket holders who were affected by the change the chance to go as a group (if they sat together) and pick new seats. Hopefully Stoke can do something similar.
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Post by flea79 on Mar 6, 2024 13:31:21 GMT
It's got to be a 2 way street hasn't it? If they say we are moving you tough shit they belong to us anyway, then they are disrespecting fans who have spent many years and money following the team and as SJW said in his battle cry we all have to stick together. The corner's only been there six years, of which I highly doubt there's many that have been there for the full term of those 6 but they must've sat somewhere else and liked it before that. It's really not a big deal and god forbid the club try and do something positive! sorry maybe not a big deal to you but to me it is i chose that area 3 or 4 years back and like it, i have no interest in downgrading my matchday experience by sitting in seats with a lesser view and facilities, my old seats in block 10 are going to be the family area so thats out of the question too but im sure having rail seats and a fucking fan zone will make us struggling in the third division of English football much better wont it
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Mar 6, 2024 13:38:07 GMT
The corner's only been there six years, of which I highly doubt there's many that have been there for the full term of those 6 but they must've sat somewhere else and liked it before that. It's really not a big deal and god forbid the club try and do something positive! sorry maybe not a big deal to you but to me it is i chose that area 3 or 4 years back and like it, i have no interest in downgrading my matchday experience by sitting in seats with a lesser view and facilities, my old seats in block 10 are going to be the family area so thats out of the question too but im sure having rail seats and a fucking fan zone will make us struggling in the third division of English football much better wont it Understand your point completely if it doesn't suit you, got to move myself block 36 but what has being in the 3rd division got to do with a fanzone and railed seating? That is off the pitch completely separate issues and since simon king has come in things that fans have been asking for for years are actually happening, up to Coates and co to sort the playing side out.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 6, 2024 13:40:29 GMT
The corner's only been there six years, of which I highly doubt there's many that have been there for the full term of those 6 but they must've sat somewhere else and liked it before that. It's really not a big deal and god forbid the club try and do something positive! sorry maybe not a big deal to you but to me it is i chose that area 3 or 4 years back and like it, i have no interest in downgrading my matchday experience by sitting in seats with a lesser view and facilities, my old seats in block 10 are going to be the family area so thats out of the question too but im sure having rail seats and a fucking fan zone will make us struggling in the third division of English football much better wont it I don't think made to scenarios really help
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Post by flea79 on Mar 6, 2024 13:41:53 GMT
sorry maybe not a big deal to you but to me it is i chose that area 3 or 4 years back and like it, i have no interest in downgrading my matchday experience by sitting in seats with a lesser view and facilities, my old seats in block 10 are going to be the family area so thats out of the question too but im sure having rail seats and a fucking fan zone will make us struggling in the third division of English football much better wont it Understand your point completely if it doesn't suit you, got to move myself block 36 but what has being in the 3rd division got to do with a fanzone and railed seating? That is off the pitch completely separate issues and since simon king has come in things that fans have been asking for for years are actually happening, up to Coates and co to sort the playing side out. its only happening to try and placate the fans for the shit on the pitch, if it really was for the good of the fans and to make it better the time to have done it was in the prem years, not as we are plunging into the depths of league one, Coates and family have signed off on it, Simon King hasnt done it off his own back
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Mar 6, 2024 13:48:04 GMT
Understand your point completely if it doesn't suit you, got to move myself block 36 but what has being in the 3rd division got to do with a fanzone and railed seating? That is off the pitch completely separate issues and since simon king has come in things that fans have been asking for for years are actually happening, up to Coates and co to sort the playing side out. its only happening to try and placate the fans for the shit on the pitch, if it really was for the good of the fans and to make it better the time to have done it was in the prem years, not as we are plunging into the depths of league one, Coates and family have signed off on it, Simon King hasnt done it off his own back What moving the fans or railed seating? Couldn't do safe standing in prem years as not allowed as for moving fans agreed could of been done then but i suppose they didn't think it worth it then when they perhaps thought legislation was coming in a few years, anyway i hope you find a solution to your problem as will i when i go to the consultation see what they say and ask about concourse facilities etc. PS deffo think simon king has moved things on alot of improvements since he came in, my opinion of course.
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Post by LGH87 on Mar 6, 2024 13:49:37 GMT
The corner's only been there six years, of which I highly doubt there's many that have been there for the full term of those 6 but they must've sat somewhere else and liked it before that. It's really not a big deal and god forbid the club try and do something positive! sorry maybe not a big deal to you but to me it is i chose that area 3 or 4 years back and like it, i have no interest in downgrading my matchday experience by sitting in seats with a lesser view and facilities, my old seats in block 10 are going to be the family area so thats out of the question too but im sure having rail seats and a fucking fan zone will make us struggling in the third division of English football much better wont it Block 26 has exactly the same view just at the opposite end and has direct access to Ricardos at half time, if anything the facilities are better mate.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Mar 6, 2024 13:53:59 GMT
I welcome the start of safe standing, which alot of stoke fans have wanted. Personally I would keep seats in the new corner location for the away fans and creat 2 safe standing areas at the back of the south stand and boothen end purely for home fans..
If we ever get back to the Premier with big away followings we could end up with all the south stand and corner being away fans with safe standing while the whole of the home stands would still be all seaters.
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Post by flea79 on Mar 6, 2024 14:01:53 GMT
sorry maybe not a big deal to you but to me it is i chose that area 3 or 4 years back and like it, i have no interest in downgrading my matchday experience by sitting in seats with a lesser view and facilities, my old seats in block 10 are going to be the family area so thats out of the question too but im sure having rail seats and a fucking fan zone will make us struggling in the third division of English football much better wont it Block 26 has exactly the same view just at the opposite end and has direct access to Ricardos at half time, if anything the facilities are better mate. not quite, we have the new double sided video screen in the corner which is great for replays and all that, not so much the incessant adverts... i just prefer it, there is more space in the concourse it was made to be more spacious
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