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Post by sportsman on Feb 18, 2024 18:03:38 GMT
And each one of them would be straight back down if they went up as they haven’t got the owners wealth to push on any higher than scrap each season. Our owners have, not for the want of trying since we come down, made mistakes, but if FFP rules are relaxed and we eventually drop on the right people in football terms brought in, can realistically give it a go. Brentford, palace, they’re all now finding their level and will be seasonal scrappers. Palace haven’t even give their stadium a lick of paint in ten years never mind improving it. They just don’t want spend money. I think if we ever got up there again with the right guys running day to day football, our owners would give it a right go We do not need FFP rules relaxed - that is just a convenient excuse that Jon Coates roles out. He seems to forget that every other club is having to play within the same set of rules as us and that many are out-performing us despite having smaller budgets. Just throwing more money at the club if FFP is relaxed is no guarantee of anything changing. More relaxed rules would certainly do us no harm against rivals who haven’t got the pennies. There’s always clubs who have little runs or the ofd season. In the main, those with the pennies do better, or should if the right things are in place
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Feb 24, 2024 17:02:46 GMT
Sorry John Coates, if it wasn’t for your money, you wouldn’t be near our club. Since you assumed control we have become a shambles from top to bottom with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
Please do the decent thing and let someone else do your job.
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Post by questionable on Feb 24, 2024 17:04:03 GMT
He’s completely overseen everything at this club that is bad, embarrassing he’s still here.
Never have I seen a person who can single handily destroy a club
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Post by chigstoke on Feb 24, 2024 17:07:31 GMT
He’s completely overseen everything at this club that is bad, embarrassing he’s still here. Never have I seen a person who can single handily destroy a club Its obvious to everyone but John himself. The bloke is fucking blind to it all and has been for 7 bastard years.
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Post by milky on Feb 24, 2024 17:08:10 GMT
He’s completely overseen everything at this club that is bad, embarrassing he’s still here. Never have I seen a person who can single handily destroy a club And yet we still have folk who point blank refuse to acknowledge it ! Unreal ! The bloke is so out of his depth it's frightening.
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Post by Block 26 on Feb 24, 2024 17:10:57 GMT
His managerial appointments are laughable
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Feb 24, 2024 17:11:10 GMT
BTW It may have been you John that earned the £££ but even Sheik Mansour is wise enough to know he’s not a football specialist. He evidently hires the best people and hides in the background. You are not a football specialist, so why can’t you just be like the Sheik?
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Post by theonlooker on Feb 24, 2024 17:14:47 GMT
Have said it for a long, long time. They are 100% the issue at this club and have been for quite some time. It's clear that John cannot run this club, and cannot even appoint people to run this club either.
They need to take stock in the summer, regardless of the division we are in, and place the club on the market.
It hurts me to say that and it hurts me every time I say it, genuinely. They are good business people and they clearly hold this city and the people in it very close to them, but sadly they aren't the owners for the football club that it needs. Football has simply moved on from what they know.
If we are relegated in May then that will be the third relegation to the third tier under their ownership and the fourth relegation in total. They have promoted us twice.
I'm sorry but it's not good enough.
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Post by Bullseye on Feb 24, 2024 17:14:49 GMT
The guy is incapable of making a good decision.
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Post by danceswithclams on Feb 24, 2024 17:16:24 GMT
If they love the club as much as everyone says they do then the Coates family should sell up and let some other cunt have a go.
They're taking us to our lowest depths again and anyone who can't see this is fucking blind or mental (or both).
Coates Out!
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Post by xchpotter on Feb 24, 2024 17:17:17 GMT
He’s completely overseen everything at this club that is bad, embarrassing he’s still here. Never have I seen a person who can single handily destroy a club Its obvious to everyone but John himself. The bloke is fucking blind to it all and has been for 7 bastard years. That’s because every good narcissist surrounds themselves with sycaphants. John won’t realise something is wrong until he’s lying at the bottom of the ocean in HMS Stoke City with water pissing in. I’m just surprised the rest of the family have stood back and done nothing.
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Post by doctortheopolis on Feb 24, 2024 17:18:07 GMT
But...but...they are local!
Good leadership in any organisation comes from the top, the plan and direction comes from the top, the vision comes from the top. Who's been at the top for the last 7 years?
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Feb 24, 2024 17:18:32 GMT
He’s completely overseen everything at this club that is bad, embarrassing he’s still here. Never have I seen a person who can single handily destroy a club Its obvious to everyone but John himself. The bloke is fucking blind to it all and has been for 7 bastard years. Saw "Seven Bastard Years" supporting World of Twist in the early 90s. Great band.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 24, 2024 17:20:34 GMT
He’s completely overseen everything at this club that is bad, embarrassing he’s still here. Never have I seen a person who can single handily destroy a club
So let's say he agrees with you, what should he do?
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Post by chad on Feb 24, 2024 17:21:34 GMT
His managerial appointments are laughable Yet on the main have been welcomed when they were appointed !
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Post by warringtonstokie on Feb 24, 2024 17:22:43 GMT
He’s completely overseen everything at this club that is bad, embarrassing he’s still here. Never have I seen a person who can single handily destroy a club
So let's say he agrees with you, what should he do?
Employ people who can run a football club. If bet365 went on a significant slide, do you think they’d keep the same structure?
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Post by Scrotnig on Feb 24, 2024 17:23:08 GMT
His managerial appointments are laughable Yet on the main have been welcomed when they were appointed ! Only because the previous one had ended up being terrible.
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Post by wonderwall on Feb 24, 2024 17:23:39 GMT
Yep, this is on him.
For us to turn this around in league 1 next season he needs to hand over the reigns.
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Post by questionable on Feb 24, 2024 17:27:49 GMT
He’s completely overseen everything at this club that is bad, embarrassing he’s still here. Never have I seen a person who can single handily destroy a club
So let's say he agrees with you, what should he do?
What would you like me to say, thanks for freezing ST’s and whilst I’m at it John superb that you’re still providing free away travel. Honestly his reign gets worse whatever he does, literally nothing makes sense, as much as I “loved” SJW his appointment is shameful giving our predicament.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 24, 2024 17:30:43 GMT
Doesn't matter what he does now its too late we are going to be playing in Div1 next season,if he continues to hold the reigns in that Div,we will be playing in Div 2 in the next 2/3 years.
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Post by RonnieStokie on Feb 24, 2024 17:32:23 GMT
I'll take the Coates families money all day long.
I'd rather not take John Coates leadership.
If he could be just the owner and not the chairman that would be perfect.
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Post by Xyphon on Feb 24, 2024 17:32:30 GMT
WHO is going to buy a shit collapsing club who loves money in a shit run down midlands town. Huh? Cant hear you? No one! Exactly. Coates is the only person we can use.
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Post by stokeypenn89 on Feb 24, 2024 17:33:17 GMT
Relegation is inevitable with John Coates at the helm! As with any business, if the person at the top doesn't have a clue what they're doing and constantly makes terrible decisions, it will create a culture of failure throughout the whole business. Until he relinquishes all control of any football related decision-making, we are never going to be successful.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 24, 2024 17:35:18 GMT
So let's say he agrees with you, what should he do?
Employ people who can run a football club.
But he's shit at bringing in managers, he's shit at bringing in recruitment teams, he's just spectacularly failed at bringing in a director of football, where do you think he's going to find somebody to atually replace himself?
It's not like he can just wander down to the football CEO superstore and buy one off the shelf, is it?
For all we know, if he could, he would.
We're in a position where we have spectacularly wealthy owners and we have to live with their (fucking dreadful) decisions, or, we actively have to campaign to get them out of the club.
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Post by danceswithclams on Feb 24, 2024 17:36:18 GMT
Employ people who can run a football club.
But he's shit at bringing in managers, he's shit at bringing in recruitment teams, he's just spectacularly failed at bringing in a director of football, where do you think he's going to find somebody to atually replace himself?
It's not like he can just wander down to the football CEO superstore and buy one off the shelf, is it?
For all we know, if he could, he would.
We're in a position where we have spectacularly wealthy owners and we have to live with their (fucking dreadful) decisions, or, we actively have to campaign to get them out of the club.
Your last sentence is increasingly looking like the only option.
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Feb 24, 2024 17:36:25 GMT
He has made us a laughing stock throughout the football league rich beyond your wildest dreams but pissed it up the wall by giving Rowett 50m Which has had over a barrel ever since. Employed chancers one after another which must have cost millions when he realises they are completely shit & has to pay them off. Jon Coates just fuck off & let somebody with football knowledge run the club.
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Post by wakeypotter on Feb 24, 2024 17:36:27 GMT
Have said it for a long, long time. They are 100% the issue at this club and have been for quite some time. It's clear that John cannot run this club, and cannot even appoint people to run this club either. They need to take stock in the summer, regardless of the division we are in, and place the club on the market. It hurts me to say that and it hurts me every time I say it, genuinely. They are good business people and they clearly hold this city and the people in it very close to them, but sadly they aren't the owners for the football club that it needs. Football has simply moved on from what they know. If we are relegated in May then that will be the third relegation to the third tier under their ownership and the fourth relegation in total. They have promoted us twice. I'm sorry but it's not good enough. Totally agree With their riches this should have never happened. I wonder if a club as rich as ours has ever been relegated to the 3rd tier?
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Post by theonlooker on Feb 24, 2024 17:37:35 GMT
We're on the verge of two relegations in 7 years of his stewardship. 6 of those 7 years will have seen us in the bottom half of the Championship.
I'm sorry but if these owners were foreign, people would be screaming "fit and proper persons test".
He's a calamitous owner. Nowhere near the required level.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 24, 2024 17:38:19 GMT
But he's shit at bringing in managers, he's shit at bringing in recruitment teams, he's just spectacularly failed at bringing in a director of football, where do you think he's going to find somebody to atually replace himself?
It's not like he can just wander down to the football CEO superstore and buy one off the shelf, is it?
For all we know, if he could, he would.
We're in a position where we have spectacularly wealthy owners and we have to live with their (fucking dreadful) decisions, or, we actively have to campaign to get them out of the club.
Your last sentence is increasingly looking like the only option.
That maybe (and I'm certainly not advocating it) but I just wish people would be honest about the situation.
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Post by serpico on Feb 24, 2024 17:39:54 GMT
Every single manager who has come and gone the last 6-7 years has stated that the Coates family gave them all the backing they needed/wanted, what more can they do ?
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