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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 18, 2024 0:54:59 GMT
Why isn’t there a buyer? If Burnley, Bournemouth, Brentford, Brighton, Ipswich, Hull etc etc can all find buyers, why can’t we? We have obscene debts and are in a realtively small town that time has forgotten which has not one but two football clubs. I might be wrong, but that's my guess. But we have such great owners. Why would we have such debts?
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Post by andyapotter on Feb 18, 2024 0:56:30 GMT
A rich village idiot is not the way forward. Bollocks to the devil you know crap and I'm not having a coates family or bury ESC comparison They're multiple so called smaller clubs thriving in the Prem currently with intelligent owners. We're an attractive club with sustained potential. Ie 10 years in the Prem to potential investors. Mike Ashley has twice the brain cells than the current owner who's constantly making us worse and he has an IQ of 2! It's a matter of WHEN not IF we go down to L1. Let's remember what family took us down there for a 2nd time and what business took us back up. I doubt that John, a lifelong supporter of the club, is enjoying this any more than you are. He deserves better than childish abuse. Grow up and show some respect.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 18, 2024 0:57:37 GMT
I doubt that John, a lifelong supporter of the club, is enjoying this any more than you are. He deserves better than childish abuse. Grow up and show some respect. “Thank you for being useless Jon” What the actual?
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Post by Gods on Feb 18, 2024 0:59:54 GMT
We have obscene debts and are in a realtively small town that time has forgotten which has not one but two football clubs. I might be wrong, but that's my guess. But we have such great owners. Why would we have such debts? I don't think you read my post. Where did the word 'great' come from? I said our current owners are better than the realistic alternatives.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Feb 18, 2024 1:00:29 GMT
We have obscene debts and are in a realtively small town that time has forgotten which has not one but two football clubs. I might be wrong, but that's my guess. But we have such great owners. Why would we have such debts? Because we're a smallish club with owners who are willing to put their own money into us as much as are allowed
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 18, 2024 1:03:42 GMT
But we have such great owners. Why would we have such debts? I don't think you read my post. Where did the word 'great' come from? I said our current owners are better than the realistic alternatives. I was just being a sarcastic twat
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Post by LGH87 on Feb 18, 2024 1:09:07 GMT
Why isn’t there a buyer? If Burnley, Bournemouth, Brentford, Brighton, Ipswich, Hull etc etc can all find buyers, why can’t we? We have obscene debts and are in a relatively small town, that time has forgotten, which has not one but two football clubs. I might be wrong, but that's my guess. Burnley, Hull, Ipswich are such massive towns in fantastic locations then?
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Feb 18, 2024 4:02:28 GMT
We've held everybody accountable since we got relegated.
Players. Scholes. Managers. Even ourselves.
Yet the only entity that gets a pass everytime is the board. Something has to change.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Feb 18, 2024 6:01:59 GMT
There is no board to sack! PC is retired, Smithy does the off field stuff, JC the football stuff. Basically the owners are everything. You can't sack the owners and therein lies the problem.
All we do is rearrange the deck chairs......
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Post by sportsman on Feb 18, 2024 6:25:00 GMT
We have obscene debts and are in a relatively small town, that time has forgotten, which has not one but two football clubs. I might be wrong, but that's my guess. Burnley, Hull, Ipswich are such massive towns in fantastic locations then? And each one of them would be straight back down if they went up as they haven’t got the owners wealth to push on any higher than scrap each season. Our owners have, not for the want of trying since we come down, made mistakes, but if FFP rules are relaxed and we eventually drop on the right people in football terms brought in, can realistically give it a go. Brentford, palace, they’re all now finding their level and will be seasonal scrappers. Palace haven’t even give their stadium a lick of paint in ten years never mind improving it. They just don’t want spend money. I think if we ever got up there again with the right guys running day to day football, our owners would give it a right go
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 18, 2024 6:49:47 GMT
Burnley, Hull, Ipswich are such massive towns in fantastic locations then? And each one of them would be straight back down if they went up as they haven’t got the owners wealth to push on any higher than scrap each season. Our owners have, not for the want of trying since we come down, made mistakes, but if FFP rules are relaxed and we eventually drop on the right people in football terms brought in, can realistically give it a go. Brentford, palace, they’re all now finding their level and will be seasonal scrappers. Palace haven’t even give their stadium a lick of paint in ten years never mind improving it. They just don’t want spend money. I think if we ever got up there again with the right guys running day to day football, our owners would give it a right go You make it sound like we’ve been close to getting up 🤣🤣🤣🤦♂️
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Post by LGH87 on Feb 18, 2024 9:58:10 GMT
Burnley, Hull, Ipswich are such massive towns in fantastic locations then? And each one of them would be straight back down if they went up as they haven’t got the owners wealth to push on any higher than scrap each season. Our owners have, not for the want of trying since we come down, made mistakes, but if FFP rules are relaxed and we eventually drop on the right people in football terms brought in, can realistically give it a go. Brentford, palace, they’re all now finding their level and will be seasonal scrappers. Palace haven’t even give their stadium a lick of paint in ten years never mind improving it. They just don’t want spend money. I think if we ever got up there again with the right guys running day to day football, our owners would give it a right go Shall we just ignore the fact Luton have a VERY good chance of staying up this season. Yes, Luton Town. Who were in the national league when we were in the Prem
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Post by mamathestriker on Feb 18, 2024 9:59:59 GMT
And each one of them would be straight back down if they went up as they haven’t got the owners wealth to push on any higher than scrap each season. Our owners have, not for the want of trying since we come down, made mistakes, but if FFP rules are relaxed and we eventually drop on the right people in football terms brought in, can realistically give it a go. Brentford, palace, they’re all now finding their level and will be seasonal scrappers. Palace haven’t even give their stadium a lick of paint in ten years never mind improving it. They just don’t want spend money. I think if we ever got up there again with the right guys running day to day football, our owners would give it a right go Shall we just ignore the fact Luton have a VERY good chance of staying up this season. Yes, Luton Town. Who were in the national league when we were in the Prem Whose head of recruitment Phil Chappell has worked wonders. The same Phil Chappell who we had here then proceeded to buy loads of dross. What on earth goes on here.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 18, 2024 10:28:44 GMT
With the dross we have put up with since just before getting relegated,they should change their name to the Bored.
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Post by spoton on Feb 18, 2024 10:33:30 GMT
Why isn’t there a buyer? If Burnley, Bournemouth, Brentford, Brighton, Ipswich, Hull etc etc can all find buyers, why can’t we? We have obscene debts and are in a relatively small town, that time has forgotten, which has not one but two football clubs. I might be wrong, but that's my guess. Sorry don't agree with you regarding no buyers, there's always someone or a organisation that would be interested like others have said other clubs have found buyers West Bromwich this week they are no bigger than Stoke
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Post by spoton on Feb 18, 2024 10:40:54 GMT
Burnley, Hull, Ipswich are such massive towns in fantastic locations then? And each one of them would be straight back down if they went up as they haven’t got the owners wealth to push on any higher than scrap each season. Our owners have, not for the want of trying since we come down, made mistakes, but if FFP rules are relaxed and we eventually drop on the right people in football terms brought in, can realistically give it a go. Brentford, palace, they’re all now finding their level and will be seasonal scrappers. Palace haven’t even give their stadium a lick of paint in ten years never mind improving it. They just don’t want spend money. I think if we ever got up there again with the right guys running day to day football, our owners would give it a right go But you not really answering the question are you, it's not a question of staying up in the premier league it's about there must be other people interested in buying the club,I just will not believe there's nobody interested in buying this club
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 18, 2024 10:54:47 GMT
Maybe a buyer is waiting for us to get relegated,in the hope of getting the club cheaper.
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Post by LGH87 on Feb 18, 2024 12:05:01 GMT
And each one of them would be straight back down if they went up as they haven’t got the owners wealth to push on any higher than scrap each season. Our owners have, not for the want of trying since we come down, made mistakes, but if FFP rules are relaxed and we eventually drop on the right people in football terms brought in, can realistically give it a go. Brentford, palace, they’re all now finding their level and will be seasonal scrappers. Palace haven’t even give their stadium a lick of paint in ten years never mind improving it. They just don’t want spend money. I think if we ever got up there again with the right guys running day to day football, our owners would give it a right go But you not really answering the question are you, it's not a question of staying up in the premier league it's about there must be other people interested in buying the club,I just will not believe there's nobody interested in buying this club Standard deflection from a Coates rimmer. The cult is real.
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Post by pushon on Feb 18, 2024 12:16:58 GMT
Maybe a buyer is waiting for us to get relegated,in the hope of getting the club cheaper. The price still has to be realistic and acceptable for The Coates/Bet365 though. They certainly don't seem desperate to part company 👀££
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Post by theoptimist on Feb 18, 2024 14:10:32 GMT
All their money is just allowing them to continue with their bad management practices. Just makes us more dependent on them as time goes by. It's a deadly spiral. The only way out is if they stumble across another TP purely by accident. Has JC got a son? Maybe we have to wait to see if he's going to be more clued up? Probably be in the North staffs league by then!
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 18, 2024 14:16:55 GMT
Burnley, Hull, Ipswich are such massive towns in fantastic locations then? And each one of them would be straight back down if they went up as they haven’t got the owners wealth to push on any higher than scrap each season. Our owners have, not for the want of trying since we come down, made mistakes, but if FFP rules are relaxed and we eventually drop on the right people in football terms brought in, can realistically give it a go. Brentford, palace, they’re all now finding their level and will be seasonal scrappers. Palace haven’t even give their stadium a lick of paint in ten years never mind improving it. They just don’t want spend money. I think if we ever got up there again with the right guys running day to day football, our owners would give it a right go Who cares if they’d go straight back down? I’d rather go up and down each year than finish in the bottom half of this league. The only bit of excitement we’ve had since being down is a relegation scrap. Most of our seasons were already over by now. Throwing money at something is only a good thing if it works. Otherwise, it’s not a positive. 90% of the owners in this league are currently doing a better job than Coates.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Feb 18, 2024 14:20:49 GMT
We have obscene debts and are in a relatively small town, that time has forgotten, which has not one but two football clubs. I might be wrong, but that's my guess. Sorry don't agree with you regarding no buyers, there's always someone or a organisation that would be interested like others have said other clubs have found buyers West Bromwich this week they are no bigger than Stoke There's buyers and there's buyers. Ask Birmingham, Sheff Weds and Reading
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 18, 2024 16:08:52 GMT
I 100% guarantee if they did sell within weeks we would have peolke moaning about not being able to compete financially or worrying about short medium or long term viability. . they just need to pick the right management to lead the club and let them manage it
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Post by sportsman on Feb 18, 2024 16:19:10 GMT
And each one of them would be straight back down if they went up as they haven’t got the owners wealth to push on any higher than scrap each season. Our owners have, not for the want of trying since we come down, made mistakes, but if FFP rules are relaxed and we eventually drop on the right people in football terms brought in, can realistically give it a go. Brentford, palace, they’re all now finding their level and will be seasonal scrappers. Palace haven’t even give their stadium a lick of paint in ten years never mind improving it. They just don’t want spend money. I think if we ever got up there again with the right guys running day to day football, our owners would give it a right go Shall we just ignore the fact Luton have a VERY good chance of staying up this season. Yes, Luton Town. Who were in the national league when we were in the Prem Like I said about nothing clubs like Burnley, palace, Brentford, hull etc. all these kind of clubs are either straight back down, fighting relegation every year, or like palace have fans screaming for ambition. When we were in the prem we gave it a go and gave the financial muscle to do so. Whenever it does happen that we go up, I hope it’s with the Coates family else we’ll be like one of them. I think if ever we did go up we’d have learned lessons from the last season in there and spend as much as we could under relaxed FFP rules. First we need to learn lessons from previous seasons in the championship and get the right formula in the background. Like INEOS for Man Utd, we have to go for the best in class for key roles
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Post by sportsman on Feb 18, 2024 16:22:00 GMT
And each one of them would be straight back down if they went up as they haven’t got the owners wealth to push on any higher than scrap each season. Our owners have, not for the want of trying since we come down, made mistakes, but if FFP rules are relaxed and we eventually drop on the right people in football terms brought in, can realistically give it a go. Brentford, palace, they’re all now finding their level and will be seasonal scrappers. Palace haven’t even give their stadium a lick of paint in ten years never mind improving it. They just don’t want spend money. I think if we ever got up there again with the right guys running day to day football, our owners would give it a right go Who cares if they’d go straight back down? I’d rather go up and down each year than finish in the bottom half of this league. The only bit of excitement we’ve had since being down is a relegation scrap. Most of our seasons were already over by now. Throwing money at something is only a good thing if it works. Otherwise, it’s not a positive. 90% of the owners in this league are currently doing a better job than Coates. Well I certainly wouldn’t want to be a Burnley and Sheffield Utd getting dicked 5-0 every week. Sod that. I’d prefer be a Coventry and keep having half decent seasons and winning plenty than that
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Post by LGH87 on Feb 18, 2024 16:23:46 GMT
Shall we just ignore the fact Luton have a VERY good chance of staying up this season. Yes, Luton Town. Who were in the national league when we were in the Prem Like I said about nothing clubs like Burnley, palace, Brentford, hull etc. all these kind of clubs are either straight back down, fighting relegation every year, or like palace have fans screaming for ambition. When we were in the prem we gave it a go and gave the financial muscle to do so. Whenever it does happen that we go up, I hope it’s with the Coates family else we’ll be like one of them. I think if ever we did go up we’d have learned lessons from the last season in there and spend as much as we could under relaxed FFP rules. First we need to learn lessons from previous seasons in the championship and get the right formula in the background. Like INEOS for Man Utd, we have to go for the best in class for key roles The last line is spot on, I’ve been saying it all week. However the problem comes when it seems we aren’t willing to do that. John won’t employ a CEO and so we’ll be stuck at this impasse of never ending shit until he either sells up or dies.
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Post by liathroid on Feb 18, 2024 16:32:06 GMT
We have obscene debts and are in a realtively small town that time has forgotten which has not one but two football clubs. I might be wrong, but that's my guess. But we have such great owners. Why would we have such debts? most clubs are in debt , we owe the the owners no interest were lucky
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Post by sportsman on Feb 18, 2024 16:33:37 GMT
Like I said about nothing clubs like Burnley, palace, Brentford, hull etc. all these kind of clubs are either straight back down, fighting relegation every year, or like palace have fans screaming for ambition. When we were in the prem we gave it a go and gave the financial muscle to do so. Whenever it does happen that we go up, I hope it’s with the Coates family else we’ll be like one of them. I think if ever we did go up we’d have learned lessons from the last season in there and spend as much as we could under relaxed FFP rules. First we need to learn lessons from previous seasons in the championship and get the right formula in the background. Like INEOS for Man Utd, we have to go for the best in class for key roles The last line is spot on, I’ve been saying it all week. However the problem comes when it seems we aren’t willing to do that. John won’t employ a CEO and so we’ll be stuck at this impasse of never ending shit until he either sells up or dies. So what roles are you after? CEO, director of football, head of recruitment,Technical director?
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Post by LGH87 on Feb 18, 2024 17:36:18 GMT
The last line is spot on, I’ve been saying it all week. However the problem comes when it seems we aren’t willing to do that. John won’t employ a CEO and so we’ll be stuck at this impasse of never ending shit until he either sells up or dies. So what roles are you after? CEO, director of football, head of recruitment,Technical director? Ideally CEO & Sporting director. With a competent CEO you’d be more hopeful that complete chancers like Ricky Martin would get nowhere near the club.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Feb 18, 2024 17:54:46 GMT
Burnley, Hull, Ipswich are such massive towns in fantastic locations then? And each one of them would be straight back down if they went up as they haven’t got the owners wealth to push on any higher than scrap each season. Our owners have, not for the want of trying since we come down, made mistakes, but if FFP rules are relaxed and we eventually drop on the right people in football terms brought in, can realistically give it a go. Brentford, palace, they’re all now finding their level and will be seasonal scrappers. Palace haven’t even give their stadium a lick of paint in ten years never mind improving it. They just don’t want spend money. I think if we ever got up there again with the right guys running day to day football, our owners would give it a right go We do not need FFP rules relaxed - that is just a convenient excuse that Jon Coates roles out. He seems to forget that every other club is having to play within the same set of rules as us and that many are out-performing us despite having smaller budgets. Just throwing more money at the club if FFP is relaxed is no guarantee of anything changing.
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