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Post by s7oke on Feb 27, 2024 9:13:43 GMT
The reason we signed him was for his ability to play as an inverted winger, cutting in from the right and scoring & assisting. Very much in the same way that the current top goalscorers do in the league. Clarke, Whittaker, Summerville, Armstrong etc. Do Stoke fans actually watch football or are they just thick? Exactly this. Saka is another example, all left foot. Going back further Rivaldo was one of the most one footed players ever but was unbelievable..yes having the ability to use your weaker foot helps but it's not that important And he’s available 👍
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Post by Ron on Feb 27, 2024 9:15:20 GMT
The reason we signed him was for his ability to play as an inverted winger, cutting in from the right and scoring & assisting. Very much in the same way that the current top goalscorers do in the league. Clarke, Whittaker, Summerville, Armstrong etc. Do Stoke fans actually watch football or are they just thick? People seem to forget about Arnie and Shaq? Tyrese best football came when he was playing off the right and cutting in too. Your width from a right footer then comes from your full back....oh, wait.... ours are all in the midfield!!!
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Post by mickstupp on Feb 27, 2024 9:38:22 GMT
The reason we signed him was for his ability to play as an inverted winger, cutting in from the right and scoring & assisting. Very much in the same way that the current top goalscorers do in the league. Clarke, Whittaker, Summerville, Armstrong etc. Do Stoke fans actually watch football or are they just thick? I tell you what youth, thank God you’re on here to teach all us thick Stoke fans about football. Christ almighty.
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Post by LGH87 on Feb 27, 2024 9:58:08 GMT
The reason we signed him was for his ability to play as an inverted winger, cutting in from the right and scoring & assisting. Very much in the same way that the current top goalscorers do in the league. Clarke, Whittaker, Summerville, Armstrong etc. Do Stoke fans actually watch football or are they just thick? I tell you what youth, thank God you’re on here to teach all us thick Stoke fans about football. Christ almighty. He's been signed because of his ability to play off the right and cut in on to his left foot, 4 of the top 5 goalscorers in this league are all inverted wingers and people are calling for him to be played on the left? That to me, is thick pal. We've already got enough players playing out of position, so why don't we take our £4m new signing who is cutting his teeth in this league and you guessed it, play him out of position? give me fucking strength
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Post by shakermaker on Feb 27, 2024 10:57:22 GMT
I tell you what youth, thank God you’re on here to teach all us thick Stoke fans about football. Christ almighty. He's been signed because of his ability to play off the right and cut in on to his left foot, 4 of the top 5 goalscorers in this league are all inverted wingers and people are calling for him to be played on the left? That to me, is thick pal. We've already got enough players playing out of position, so why don't we take our £4m new signing who is cutting his teeth in this league and you guessed it, play him out of position? give me fucking strength In our current circumstances, I would play him at LWB of a 3-4-2-1 rather than as an AMR. The reason for that is because our defence is best shored up with a back three, and with Million at LWB we can utilize his pace and crossing with his left foot. I would much prefer to see him at AMR behind Ennis, but Junho and Laurent can be the two AMs – we don't have a natural LWB and given that Million has at least played there a few times, he would be infinitely better there than Gooch or Thompson. A LWB/LB (as has been said to death) once and for all has to be the priority this summer.
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Post by femark on Feb 27, 2024 11:36:22 GMT
The reason we signed him was for his ability to play as an inverted winger, cutting in from the right and scoring & assisting. Very much in the same way that the current top goalscorers do in the league. Clarke, Whittaker, Summerville, Armstrong etc. Do Stoke fans actually watch football or are they just thick? Watch all of those players and you will see that they mix it up. My question would be, do you watch/play football? If you know that your opponent is going to cut inside every time then they are easy to play against. Take Clarke as an example - when we played Sunderland he tore Gooch a new arsehole because he mixed it up and went down the line a few times. In fact, when Campbell came on he took the full back on down the line a couple of times, which meant he got more space when cutting inside.
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Post by LGH87 on Feb 27, 2024 11:56:58 GMT
The reason we signed him was for his ability to play as an inverted winger, cutting in from the right and scoring & assisting. Very much in the same way that the current top goalscorers do in the league. Clarke, Whittaker, Summerville, Armstrong etc. Do Stoke fans actually watch football or are they just thick? Watch all of those players and you will see that they mix it up. My question would be, do you watch/play football? If you know that your opponent is going to cut inside every time then they are easy to play against. Take Clarke as an example - when we played Sunderland he tore Gooch a new arsehole because he mixed it up and went down the line a few times. In fact, when Campbell came on he took the full back on down the line a couple of times, which meant he got more space when cutting inside. Where have I said every time? The point was people want him played on the left, when he's been bought to play on the right as that's his best position. Just like Whittaker's is, just like Clarke's best on the left despite being right footed.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 27, 2024 11:59:45 GMT
Sod it,I would try him as our main striker,he couldn't do any worse.
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 27, 2024 12:22:31 GMT
He's been signed because of his ability to play off the right and cut in on to his left foot, 4 of the top 5 goalscorers in this league are all inverted wingers and people are calling for him to be played on the left? That to me, is thick pal. We've already got enough players playing out of position, so why don't we take our £4m new signing who is cutting his teeth in this league and you guessed it, play him out of position? give me fucking strength In our current circumstances, I would play him at LWB of a 3-4-2-1 rather than as an AMR. The reason for that is because our defence is best shored up with a back three, and with Million at LWB we can utilize his pace and crossing with his left foot. I would much prefer to see him at AMR behind Ennis, but Junho and Laurent can be the two AMs – we don't have a natural LWB and given that Million has at least played there a few times, he would be infinitely better there than Gooch or Thompson. A LWB/LB (as has been said to death) once and for all has to be the priority this summer. At the beginning of SS’ term we looked reasonable when the fullbacks still weren’t running into central midfield time and time again. Inverted wingers with inverted fullbacks is bloody senseless. I think Million could do a job at lwb but I would rather us just make life easier for ourselves and have Junior overlap him while he cuts inside. It’s a tactic that always brings panic to defenders. It’s also easier for our own midfielders to figure out where they need to go (move over to cover our full back slot).
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Post by Rick Grimes on Feb 27, 2024 12:50:34 GMT
In our current circumstances, I would play him at LWB of a 3-4-2-1 rather than as an AMR. The reason for that is because our defence is best shored up with a back three, and with Million at LWB we can utilize his pace and crossing with his left foot. I would much prefer to see him at AMR behind Ennis, but Junho and Laurent can be the two AMs – we don't have a natural LWB and given that Million has at least played there a few times, he would be infinitely better there than Gooch or Thompson. A LWB/LB (as has been said to death) once and for all has to be the priority this summer. At the beginning of SS’ term we looked reasonable when the fullbacks still weren’t running into central midfield time and time again. Inverted wingers with inverted fullbacks is bloody senseless. I think Million could do a job at lwb but I would rather us just make life easier for ourselves and have Junior overlap him while he cuts inside. It’s a tactic that always brings panic to defenders. It’s also easier for our own midfielders to figure out where they need to go (move over to cover our full back slot). When we were actually decent in that brief spell under Neil it was because Brown was coming inside creating acres of space for Hoever to overlap and provide an additional attacking threat. Last season Pearson was really good at filling the gap Hoever left behind as well. A combination of Brown leaving, Hoever’s loss of form and teams just figuring out how to deal with it left us looking toothless again in attack. I think you’re spot on in that when Manhoef cuts inside we need Junior or Hoever overlapping on the outside creating an overload and non this inverted full back malarkey.
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 27, 2024 16:25:14 GMT
At the beginning of SS’ term we looked reasonable when the fullbacks still weren’t running into central midfield time and time again. Inverted wingers with inverted fullbacks is bloody senseless. I think Million could do a job at lwb but I would rather us just make life easier for ourselves and have Junior overlap him while he cuts inside. It’s a tactic that always brings panic to defenders. It’s also easier for our own midfielders to figure out where they need to go (move over to cover our full back slot). When we were actually decent in that brief spell under Neil it was because Brown was coming inside creating acres of space for Hoever to overlap and provide an additional attacking threat. Last season Pearson was really good at filling the gap Hoever left behind as well. A combination of Brown leaving, Hoever’s loss of form and teams just figuring out how to deal with it left us looking toothless again in attack. I think you’re spot on in that when Manhoef cuts inside we need Junior or Hoever overlapping on the outside creating an overload and non this inverted full back malarkey. It kind of makes me wonder if we could just get away with: Iversen/Bonham Junior Rose/McNally/Wilmot Rose/McNally/Wilmot Hoever (he did play there sometimes last season, right? (vs Swansea?). Pearson Burger Manhoef Baker Bae Ennis That way, Baker can shoot from outside the box more and Pearson/Burger can plug the gaps when the full backs move forwards.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 27, 2024 16:46:03 GMT
When we were actually decent in that brief spell under Neil it was because Brown was coming inside creating acres of space for Hoever to overlap and provide an additional attacking threat. Last season Pearson was really good at filling the gap Hoever left behind as well. A combination of Brown leaving, Hoever’s loss of form and teams just figuring out how to deal with it left us looking toothless again in attack. I think you’re spot on in that when Manhoef cuts inside we need Junior or Hoever overlapping on the outside creating an overload and non this inverted full back malarkey. It kind of makes me wonder if we could just get away with: Iversen/Bonham Junior Rose/McNally/Wilmot Rose/McNally/Wilmot Hoever (he did play there sometimes last season, right? (vs Swansea?). Pearson Burger Manhoef Baker Bae Ennis That way, Baker can shoot from outside the box more and Pearson/Burger can plug the gaps when the full backs move forwards. Baker isn't creative enough for the 10 role though, I get the thinking but I think it would be too much of a waste, if he has to play it needs to be further back.
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Feb 27, 2024 16:48:58 GMT
It kind of makes me wonder if we could just get away with: Iversen/Bonham Junior Rose/McNally/Wilmot Rose/McNally/Wilmot Hoever (he did play there sometimes last season, right? (vs Swansea?). Pearson Burger Manhoef Baker Bae Ennis That way, Baker can shoot from outside the box more and Pearson/Burger can plug the gaps when the full backs move forwards. Baker isn't creative enough for the 10 role though, I get the thinking but I think it would be too much of a waste, if he has to play it needs to be further back. Bae is the ideal number 10. He is very good there. He isn't a winger. Baker is best just as box to box midfielder.
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 27, 2024 17:22:58 GMT
Baker isn't creative enough for the 10 role though, I get the thinking but I think it would be too much of a waste, if he has to play it needs to be further back. Bae is the ideal number 10. He is very good there. He isn't a winger. Baker is best just as box to box midfielder. I like Bae but he’s the only passable left sided attacking midfielder that we have. In this role, Baker wouldn’t likely be an actual 10, he’d just be the more advanced of the three. None of our midfielders are creative. Our set pieces are usually contested in the box again now that Baker is on them. That’s as creative as I need him to be. In an ideal world, Bae would be playing there but there’s no one worth considering out wide that has a decent work rate and looks to take on their man other than Bae.
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Post by lordb on Feb 27, 2024 22:07:13 GMT
Bae is the ideal number 10. He is very good there. He isn't a winger. Baker is best just as box to box midfielder. I like Bae but he’s the only passable left sided attacking midfielder that we have. In this role, Baker wouldn’t likely be an actual 10, he’d just be the more advanced of the three. None of our midfielders are creative. Our set pieces are usually contested in the box again now that Baker is on them. That’s as creative as I need him to be. In an ideal world, Bae would be playing there but there’s no one worth considering out wide that has a decent work rate and looks to take on their man other than Bae. If we stay up then quality left sided attacker Maguire from Orlando for example would be a priority
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Post by chad on Feb 27, 2024 22:17:31 GMT
Sod it,I would try him as our main striker,he couldn't do any worse. Or even keeper
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