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Post by Scrotnig on Feb 10, 2024 12:29:28 GMT
I wonder if we are expecting too much instant success and if he hasn't scored after six games he will be the new scapegoat. He is twenty, has been at Vitesse since he was 12 and never been to another club or country. How similar do you think Stoke on Trent is to Arnhem? How similar do you think Stoke's style of play and training regime is to that of Vitesse. Yet this guy is being heralded as our saviour this season. Like Vidigal he may start well but then go off the boil once the adrenalin rush of playing for a new club recedes. Or he just might not succeed at all this season and we will have to be patient and wait till next season Six games? If he doesn’t score TODAY he’ll get ripped to shreds! A lot of expectation on one player, it’s too much. He can’t possibly deliver on this immediately. If he looks solid and seems to fit in with the team I’ll be happy.
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Post by bertiestan on Feb 10, 2024 12:30:00 GMT
I wonder if we are expecting too much instant success and if he hasn't scored after six games he will be the new scapegoat. He is twenty, has been at Vitesse since he was 12 and never been to another club or country. How similar do you think Stoke on Trent is to Arnhem? How similar do you think Stoke's style of play and training regime is to that of Vitesse. Yet this guy is being heralded as our saviour this season. Like Vidigal he may start well but then go off the boil once the adrenalin rush of playing for a new club recedes. Or he just might not succeed at all this season and we will have to be patient and wait till next season He’ll be written off by 17.00 by some of the goons on here mate
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Post by Scrotnig on Feb 10, 2024 12:32:17 GMT
Saying all this, he might surprise us today. But if he doesn’t, it’s ok.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Feb 10, 2024 12:39:28 GMT
He’s 22 not 20.
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 10, 2024 12:40:15 GMT
I wonder if we are expecting too much instant success and if he hasn't scored after six games he will be the new scapegoat. He is twenty, has been at Vitesse since he was 12 and never been to another club or country. How similar do you think Stoke on Trent is to Arnhem? How similar do you think Stoke's style of play and training regime is to that of Vitesse. Yet this guy is being heralded as our saviour this season. Like Vidigal he may start well but then go off the boil once the adrenalin rush of playing for a new club recedes. Or he just might not succeed at all this season and we will have to be patient and wait till next season There’s no point in buying players if they can’t deliver. We are out of a relegation scrap for now but if we don’t start winning games, we will be dragged into it. He’s probably one of the most expensive transfers that’s gone on this year outside of the relegation clubs. His job role will likely be the same as in the last place: run forwards quickly and shoot.
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Post by iglugluk on Feb 10, 2024 12:40:38 GMT
If he hits the ground running we will be lucky. There's no point in having expectations that he will be the missing link to correcting all our recent woes. He's a young guy who was in demand at more than one club and we will have to give him what he needs time wise. I'm looking forward to seeing him play, personally. He sounds potentially exciting
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Post by bertiestan on Feb 10, 2024 12:46:36 GMT
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Post by marylandstoke on Feb 10, 2024 12:54:46 GMT
Not really. The average career for an elite player is eight to eleven years. The peak career age is 25 to 27. Those two years could be 25% of his career. 22 is not ‘the new’ 20
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 10, 2024 12:56:02 GMT
I'd start with Manhoef on the right and Campbell on the left with Ennis in the middle! ......................Iversen................... Junior..........Wilmot........Rose.........Gooche ......................Burger.................... ...............Bae..............Baker............ Manhoef................Ennis..............Campbell This team on paper looks much better than last week's starting 11. I guess Cundle unfortunately will start again though. Probably the best line up we could come up with but those two centre backs scare the shit out of me. 😏 Agree, would have swapped Gooche for a specialist left back too, but this is the best we can pick as I see it.
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Post by bertiestan on Feb 10, 2024 13:02:35 GMT
Not really. The average career for an elite player is eight to eleven years. The peak career age is 25 to 27. Those two years could be 25% of his career. 22 is not ‘the new’ 20 He’s been at one club since a child…that definitely counts for something in my eyes…I can tell just by your replies that you’ll be one writing him off at 17.00. Elite player🤷🏼 this is the problem straight away🤦🏼♂️ we don’t have any elite players we play in the championship, lower your expectations already man ffs.
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Post by nottsover60 on Feb 10, 2024 13:04:56 GMT
Your're right but everything else is still applies, he has never experienced life or football outside Arnhem.
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Post by bertiestan on Feb 10, 2024 13:06:36 GMT
Your're right but everything else is still applies, he has never experienced life or football outside Arnhem. You can tell it to them til your blue in the face mate n they still won’t get it…blows my mind the mentality of some supporters🔴⚪️
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Post by nottsover60 on Feb 10, 2024 13:07:39 GMT
Not really. The average career for an elite player is eight to eleven years. The peak career age is 25 to 27. Those two years could be 25% of his career. 22 is not ‘the new’ 20 I think Jamie Vardy would disagree
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 10, 2024 13:10:08 GMT
Probably the best line up we could come up with but those two centre backs scare the shit out of me. 😏 Agree, would have swapped Gooche for a specialist left back too, but this is the best we can pick as I see it. 3 of those 4 at the back,worry me to death.
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Post by marylandstoke on Feb 10, 2024 13:22:53 GMT
Not really. The average career for an elite player is eight to eleven years. The peak career age is 25 to 27. Those two years could be 25% of his career. 22 is not ‘the new’ 20 He’s been at one club since a child…that definitely counts for something in my eyes…I can tell just by your replies that you’ll be one writing him off at 17.00. Elite player🤷🏼 this is the problem straight away🤦🏼♂️ we don’t have any elite players we play in the championship, lower your expectations already man ffs. Put a comment in regarding players ages and career expectations. If you really can tell from “my replies” (plural?) what I will be doing at noon today then you should be running the country, not wasting time here.
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Post by bertiestan on Feb 10, 2024 13:55:17 GMT
He’s been at one club since a child…that definitely counts for something in my eyes…I can tell just by your replies that you’ll be one writing him off at 17.00. Elite player🤷🏼 this is the problem straight away🤦🏼♂️ we don’t have any elite players we play in the championship, lower your expectations already man ffs. Put a comment in regarding players ages and career expectations. If you really can tell from “my replies” (plural?) what I will be doing at noon today then you should be running the country, not wasting time here. Your comments lose credibility when you mention elite player..he’s not that is he🤷🏼 so already you need to lower expectations or else he’s on a hiding to nothing n this is the problem..n I don’t just mean you btw..as for running the country I probably couldn’t do much worse than the dickheads running it now but let’s keep to the topic.
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Post by TinkerT on Feb 10, 2024 14:15:19 GMT
Good feeling about this one
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Post by marylandstoke on Feb 10, 2024 14:32:20 GMT
Put a comment in regarding players ages and career expectations. If you really can tell from “my replies” (plural?) what I will be doing at noon today then you should be running the country, not wasting time here. Your comments lose credibility when you mention elite player..he’s not that is he🤷🏼 so already you need to lower expectations or else he’s on a hiding to nothing n this is the problem..n I don’t just mean you btw..as for running the country I probably couldn’t do much worse than the dickheads running it now but let’s keep to the topic. If you say so.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2024 14:35:38 GMT
If he doesn’t score a brace today then he deserves dogs abuse.
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Post by trincostokie on Feb 10, 2024 14:39:33 GMT
I like the cut of this young man's jib
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Feb 10, 2024 14:41:37 GMT
Good feeling about this one Strangely confident Got the celebratory Mini Rolls open already
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Post by clarkeda on Feb 10, 2024 16:20:16 GMT
He looks decent
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 10, 2024 16:31:36 GMT
Think he did ok in difficulty circumstances
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Post by Roger Everyone on Feb 10, 2024 16:32:38 GMT
Looked a good player today, hopefully he will settle in quick.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 10, 2024 16:36:03 GMT
Thanks Ricky another totally ineffective January addition the bike surely can't survive the weekend take that fan or not
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2024 16:36:51 GMT
Looks a Million Mileshoef.
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Post by bertiestan on Feb 10, 2024 16:37:29 GMT
Looks a Million Mileshoef. 😂😂😂
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 10, 2024 17:01:49 GMT
Thanks Ricky another totally ineffective January addition the bike surely can't survive the weekend take that fan or not One game.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Feb 10, 2024 17:02:45 GMT
Can’t really say much after that game.
Had a couple of nice touches. Not much else.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 10, 2024 17:02:56 GMT
Thanks Ricky another totally ineffective January addition the bike surely can't survive the weekend take that fan or not One game. Its all it takes
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